[9 / 4 / ?] 35KiB, 259x380, greninja-ash.jpg View SameGoogleImgOpsiqdbSauceNAO Thread Reply Original Report Media View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Download Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 01:42:04 No.29263730 View ViewReplyOriginalReport Quoted By: Just how much stronger does water shuriken get after becoming Ash-Greninja? I tried it in the demo and I didn't notice a difference in strength at all.