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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:28:00 No.29271558 View View Reply Original Report

>people are already crying about HMs getting cut

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:29:14 No.29271585 Report

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Those comments just won't fly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:29:39 No.29271600 Report

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wait wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:30:10 No.29271612 Report

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>>29271558
>can't use my own Pokémon to get around
Fuck you and fuck Game Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:30:21 No.29271617 Report

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>>29271558

They did what people have been asking for since gen 2

Replace them with tools that can do the same thing, in SuMos case its calling other pokemon to come do the task for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:30:37 No.29271623 Report

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>b-b-buh muh immersion i need to use MY pokemon to go on my adventure ;_;

HMs have always been a shit mechanic, they should have been dealt with years ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:31:21 No.29271631 Report

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>>29271617
oops i made i typo i meant to write SM not sure how SuMo ended up there hahaha
wouldnt want u guys to think im a redditor or anything hahah :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:31:43 No.29271637 Report

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>>29271623
Not an argument, shill.
They could've easily given Pokémon innate abilities to do the things needed to traverse a region, but nope, they're too lazy, shown by the pitiful amount of additions this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:32:16 No.29271648 Report

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>>29271558
I just want Dive.

Everything else I can just page my Pokemon.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:32:51 No.29271660 Report

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>>29271558
was there really any reason to cut them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:33:10 No.29271670 Report

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>>29271558
I'm happy they're gone.

I'm not happy with their replacement.

>Hey let's summon a Tauros out of nowhere lmao

it's dumb as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:33:57 No.29271692 Report

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>>29271558
you fuckin kidding me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:34:08 No.29271695 Report

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>>29271670
>Hey let's summon a Tauros out of nowhere lmao

Like what happens when you throw a pokeball on the ground?

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:34:59 No.29271707 Report

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>>29271637
you're trying way too hard anon, it's more believable if you tone it down a bit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:35:06 No.29271710 Report

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>>29271637
But then you would still be forced to catch specific Pokemon. The way it is you can basically use whatever you want with no restrictions for adventuring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:35:34 No.29271719 Report

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>>29271637
>>29271670
You are now comparing for the sake of complaining

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:35:42 No.29271723 Report

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>>29271558
I love the idea of Tauros being a ridemon. I never use it in battle anyway.

Charizard Fly and Sharpedo Surf are also cool because i love those guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:35:48 No.29271726 Report

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>>29271695
are you literally comparing sending out a pokemon that you have caught and carry with you with a pokemon that pops out of nowhere no matter where you are or when you call it?

because you'd have to be retarded to think those two twings are similar at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:36:01 No.29271733 Report

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>>29271707
So no argument?
Gotcha.

>>29271710
Still better than being forced to use a Pokémon you don't own.
At this point it's barely your own adventure.

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Fag Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:36:24 No.29271739 Report

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>>29271660
i let this (rock)slide im gonna stop SURFing the internet for awhile

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:36:34 No.29271741 Report

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>>29271726
Pokepager uses pokeball technology to summon pokemon

Same thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:36:37 No.29271745 Report

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>>29271719
Complaining

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:37:43 No.29271769 Report

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>>29271726
It's literally the Poke Ball lightning effect. The Ride Pager acts as a portable PC box and you call rideable mons with the Rental Balls.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:37:46 No.29271770 Report

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>think OP was kidding
>open thread
>multiple people defending HMs, even getting militant about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:38:37 No.29271783 Report

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I swear you fuckers would complain about color being added in gen 2 because it "ruins the immersion and imagination"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:39:07 No.29271791 Report

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>>29271558
finally I can have a team with 6 mons and not a team with 5 and a HM slave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:39:14 No.29271794 Report

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>>29271733
I don't know why I'm even replying as you're clearly too autistic to have your opinion swayed, but no it's not you dumbfuck. Being able to use 6 mons you actually like to their full potential beats using 4 + 2 HM slaves from a bland selection of rodents and water mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:39:18 No.29271796 Report

Quoted By: >>29273543 >>29273909 >>29276223

>>29271637
That's only half the reason why HMs sucked though.

Having to build my team around HMs has always sucked. Needing an obligatory flying and water type got annoying really quick.

This is the first gen ever where I'll be able to build my team with no strings attached. Hell, I may even do a mono type run just because I can now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:39:30 No.29271802 Report

Quoted By: >>29272353 >>29274823

This is absolute proof that /vp/ will complain about anything. And the worst part is you can't even tell if they're serious or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:41:07 No.29271846 Report

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>>29271733
I don't want to use a flying type or water type on my team. It's not my adventure if I don't even get to choose what Pokemon I want to use because I have to bring along something I don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 06:41:41 No.29271859 Report

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>>29271733

you are a grown ass man, you'll be okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:01:54 No.29272310 Report

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>>29271558
means I dont need to waste a pokemon as a HM slave senpai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:04:06 No.29272353 Report

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>>29271802
If anything its proof that you niggers will defend anything.
Yes, we get it, Game Freak never does ANYTHING wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:05:05 No.29272379 Report

Quoted By: >>29272413

Thank god HMs are gone.
So which pokemon show up to do the various HM skills?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:06:33 No.29272413 Report

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>>29272379
http://serebii.net/sunmoon/pokeride.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:10:54 No.29272489 Report

Quoted By: >>29272521

Do Surf, Fly and Waterfall still exist as teachable moves though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:11:23 No.29272498 Report

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>>29271558
I'm more upset about the supposed lack of a bike. Sure the Tauros is faster, but it's more unwieldy and you have to keep pressing B. At least when I play bike simulator I can pay almost no attention to the game. It's mostly a nitpick tho, nothing that bad. At the very least I hope there's an infinite Tauros loop somewhere, preferably close to the daycare like in ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:12:44 No.29272521 Report

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>>29272489
Surf, Fly, and Waterfall have been made TMs, replacing Rock Smash, Struggle Bug, and Power Up Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:13:46 No.29272537 Report

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>>29272498
>but it's more unwieldy
It's easy as fuck to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:16:16 No.29272575 Report

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>>29272498
There will probably be a pokeride specially made as a counterpart of the bicycle. They're not just HMs, they even replaced the item finder.
Something like Luxray or Rapidash I guess. I think we don't know all pokerides yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:16:37 No.29272580 Report

Quoted By: >>29274607 >>29274823

>>29272353
>getting this upset

HMs were a universally hated mechanic. Nobody likes having a random Pokémon on their team doing that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:18:05 No.29272596 Report

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>>29271733
I'll take the rental mons over having to always carry a Flying type and an HM slave just to progress in the game. Soaring was a blessing in ORAS and I'm so happy they finally decided to remove this stupid mechanic. HM prelonged there staying for to long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:24:03 No.29272701 Report

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>ITT I don't understand basic game design

They picked the best solution from a gameplay perspective. Just as they could lock things behind hms before they can do it again with the rental pokemon, no more random dancing guys

"Unlocking" the potential in your pokemon is a clusterfuck that still limits choices and doesn't allow the fun movement changes

Making you catch the specific pokemon is putting unprecedented restrictions on player progression and pc usage and would be awkward as fuck to include

I won't even bother going over why the old system was terrible again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:25:12 No.29272722 Report

Quoted By: >>29278879

>>29272575
You can just hold b with tauros and go as fast as the standard bikes, faster even

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:28:21 No.29272780 Report

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>>29271637
>BUHHHH WOW THATS A GOOD ARGUMENT BETTER CALL THEM A SHILL
Given how GamFreak is when they do something right I'm gonna be happy about it you damn retard. I'm not just accepting this, I'm happy about it. HMs were dumb and so are you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:33:37 No.29272886 Report

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>>29271558

All the salt water falling over the place.

Get your head out of Defog and Cut the crap, OP. HMs as implemented were never going to be a good idea in Alola.

They served as roadblocks and were paired with gyms. You would have to Dive way deep to find a continued relevance for HMs in a region with no gyms.

Heck, Flash cards would be more useful.

Brb, flying off to another thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 07:36:07 No.29272927 Report

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>>29272521
>Surf, Fly, and Waterfall have been made TMs
Took them too long enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:11:57 No.29273440 Report

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>>29271558
lol something that needed to be done for a while now. Plenty to gripe about with the pokedex, however.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:16:48 No.29273512 Report

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>>29271733
At this point you're barely a person.

Just do us all a favour and cease respiratory function, yeah?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:17:51 No.29273528 Report

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>>29271660
Fuck you Carlos, your puns and your plays on words just won't fly with me.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:19:17 No.29273543 Report

Quoted By: >>29276223

>>29271796
>Needing an obligatory flying and water type got annoying really quick.

Frankly I can't suck this game's dick hard enough for taking away the necessary addition of some fish and some bird I had to build my teams around.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:20:48 No.29273563 Report

Quoted By: >>29277343

>>29271558
>People defend HMs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:27:33 No.29273646 Report

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>>29271637
I wouldn't call choosing not to make animations for over 700 monsters simply case of being lazy. That costs money, and it wouldn't be worth it, just so each mon can be used for transport. If they aren't going to go that far and let all mons be used, the most sensible thing to do is use a standardized rental set, otherwise you're forced to catch very specific mons.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:46:21 No.29273866 Report

Quoted By: >>29274162

>>29272413
>http://serebii.net/sunmoon/pokeride.shtml
i guess no soaring :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:49:35 No.29273909 Report

Quoted By: >>29273945

>>29271796
They could still have ride pokemon to fill in the gaps in your party, but they should be alternatives, not replacements. It does reduce the immersion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:52:16 No.29273945 Report

Quoted By: >>29274010

>>29273909
Why? People lending you a pokemon to get around is perfectly within the social norms of the pokemon universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 08:58:07 No.29274010 Report

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>>29273945
I didn't say rental pokemon reduce it, I said not being able to use your own does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:10:37 No.29274153 Report

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>>29271558
>he doesn't want to rock smash Luna

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:11:24 No.29274162 Report

Quoted By: >>29274170 >>29277318 >>29278836 >>29278909

>>29273866
soaring was utterly pointless aside from the legendaries and mirage islands

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:12:21 No.29274170 Report

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>>29274162
True, but it was a cool feature, and they COULD give it actual use this time. But instead of improving features, GameFreak just remove them, because they're retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:47:16 No.29274539 Report

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>>29271558
People with autism hate change anon.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:51:12 No.29274574 Report

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>>29271558
>THEY TOOK AWAY MY WHIRLPOOL MY CUT MY FLY MY ROCK SMASH MY SURF WAAAH THE MONSTERS I HATE GF THEY RUINED THE GAME BEYOND FIXING WAAH WAAH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:54:00 No.29274607 Report

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>>29272580
The problem is not that HMs are no longer needed, the problem is how they were replaced. The current way is not immersive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:55:48 No.29274626 Report

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>>29271637
Then, gamefreak would get sued for stealing from evocreo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:56:21 No.29274633 Report

Quoted By: >>29278333

>>29274607
How is riding Pokemon not immersive? Heck, how is it less immersive than just seeing an image of your Pokemon flash across the screen?

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:56:47 No.29274639 Report

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>>29274607
>muh immersion
just kys

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 09:59:51 No.29274672 Report

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>>29274607
>The current way is not immersive.

Oh yeah and riding on a mysterious blue blob was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:00:59 No.29274685 Report

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HMs were fucking annoying and forced you to have atleast one slave to go through caves and shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:02:12 No.29274700 Report

Quoted By: >>29278333

>>29274607
The SM way is MORE immersive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:08:02 No.29274744 Report

Quoted By: >>29274796 >>29276979 >>29277032 >>29278224 >>29278253

>>29271612
This
Removing HMs is irrelevant, but not being able to ride your own poke is unforgivable

>But they'd have to model every pokemon

No they wouldnt
They can make just a number of pokemon ridable, but fucking allow you to ride yours if you own one of these

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:13:07 No.29274796 Report

Quoted By: >>29274839 >>29278224

>>29274744
what difference would there be between your tauros and a rented tauros?

is it autism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:13:33 No.29274801 Report

Quoted By: >>29274820

My main worry is will we be able to learn HM moves still from a tutor or TM

Not having access to Surf and Waterfall would suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:13:38 No.29274803 Report

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>>29271726
They gave you Pokeball with the Taurus and now you call it anywere, there, its simple, can't you people use your imagination? I guess complaining is more usefull.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:15:00 No.29274820 Report

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>>29274801
Surf, Fly, and Waterfall are TMs and have taken the place of Rock Smash, Struggle Bug, and Power-Up Punch.

Word is that the remaining HMs will be tutor moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:15:06 No.29274823 Report

Quoted By: >>29274836 >>29278122

>>29271802
>>29272580
Are you unironically saying the fact you have to use a rental Tauros for a ride even if you own a Tauros in your team is okay to you?
Gay ass shill....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:16:05 No.29274836 Report

Quoted By: >>29274874

>>29274823
HOW WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:16:18 No.29274839 Report

Quoted By: >>29274855 >>29276646 >>29279560 >>29279712

>>29274796
What logic is there behind renting a Tautos when you own one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:18:14 No.29274855 Report

Quoted By: >>29274862 >>29274874

>>29274839
I keep asking. How would be you able to tell the difference?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:18:45 No.29274862 Report

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>>29274855
They'd sniff the coat of the Tauros of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:19:27 No.29274872 Report

Quoted By: >>29274881

>>29274607
Jesus, Mary and Joseph, what do you people want? Is the concept of a Pokemon that was especially trained to be mounted by someone, being given to you in a pokeball ny some random NPC, so said Pokemon can be summoned anywere too alien for you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:19:31 No.29274874 Report

Quoted By: >>29274880

>>29274836
>>29274855
Are you autistic?
>If things are similar, they're the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:20:09 No.29274877 Report

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>>29271558
that's because /vp/ is 90% underaged faggot with little cornflake syndroms that can't spend 2 hours without saying "am I the only one" to someone and expect positive reaction from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:20:44 No.29274880 Report

Quoted By: >>29274887

>>29274874
>he still can't answer my question

What if GF does let you use your own Tauros? How would know it's your Tauros and not a rented Tauros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:20:59 No.29274881 Report

Quoted By: >>29274891

>>29274872
>Is the concept of a Pokemon that was especially trained to be mounted by someone [...] too alien for you?

Yes because so far in games/anime, pokemon didnt require any "training" to be mounted

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:22:11 No.29274887 Report

Quoted By: >>29274921

>>29274880
No shitty saddle and helmet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:22:43 No.29274891 Report

Quoted By: >>29274925

>>29274881
Yes they did, that's what HMs were for. You taught to Pokemon to move objects and carry you over water on your command.

Also, since when do the games equal anime? Besides, they probably were trained to do just that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:24:49 No.29274921 Report

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>>29274887
>riding your tauros without a saddle

Shitty owner 2bh. Glad GF isn't letting idiots like you injure their pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:25:16 No.29274925 Report

Quoted By: >>29274956 >>29274970

>>29274891
So basically you can't train your own pokemon anymore to do that and have to rent already trained ones....
What a great trainer the SM protag is...

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:27:41 No.29274949 Report

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>People are defending HM's
Did the 12 year old enjoy them that much in their first pokemon games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:28:14 No.29274956 Report

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>>29274925
Stop it! Just fucking stop it already! Your just making a fool of yourself at this point. Nobody in their right mind would try this hard to defend HMs or that riding pokemons doesn't make sense in the pokemon universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:29:51 No.29274970 Report

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>>29274925
Why the fuck do you want to force your Pokemon to carry your fat ass? Is fighting for your amusement not enough for you?

You can also teach them Fly, Surf,Waterfall,etc still too. The SM protag is just a nicer to their Pokemon, if only slightly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:35:26 No.29275054 Report

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People aren't bringing up the fact that most pokemon with surf/fly shouldn't be able to support you, while almost every pokemon should be able to clear away shrubs and rocks

How is it more immersive having a foot tall bird carry you across the country? You don't even see it anyway

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:39:56 No.29275115 Report

Quoted By: >>29276584

I'm 97% anyone who liked HMs is trolling.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11460001

http://www.strawpoll.me/11460001

http://www.strawpoll.me/11460001

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 10:45:05 No.29275209 Report

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>>29271585
Underrated post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 11:01:10 No.29275434 Report

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The lack of HMs is especially good for Nuzlocke runs.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 11:01:47 No.29275443 Report

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>>29271585
First post best post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 11:03:59 No.29275473 Report

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What will they do when we inevitably get remakes of games that had HMs? Will they put HMs back in or let us use Pokeride?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 11:07:20 No.29275507 Report

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>>29271670
The ride pager is a pokéball that hosts multiple fagmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 11:22:10 No.29275715 Report

Quoted By: >>29275738

im out of the loop, where was 'hm's are gone' confirmed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 11:24:05 No.29275738 Report

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>>29275715
disregard that, i suck cocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:01:26 No.29276223 Report

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>>29271796
>>29273543
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:11:50 No.29276403 Report

Quoted By: >>29276483

>>29272521
Proof?
And what about Strength?
(And possibly Defog as that has stone use... and if they replaced Power Up Punch... then where is its ghetto cousin Rock Smash?)

Honestly, many of the HMs have battle usage, and that's the real loss.
(Though they should just give players the OPTION. Like the Aeon Flute v Fly in ORAS.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:14:59 No.29276458 Report

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>>29274607
Would you like an Über, dearie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:16:05 No.29276474 Report

Quoted By: >>29277197

>>29274574
>WHAAH SOMEBODY HAS A LEGITIMATE CRITIQUE THAT I DON"T AGREE WITH WAAH WAAH
Anon, your autism is showing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:16:36 No.29276483 Report

Quoted By: >>29276551

>>29276403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh7RNb_PK1c

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:17:51 No.29276502 Report

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>>29271558

Are they still in as tm's? If so, idgaf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:19:36 No.29276524 Report

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>>29271791
You can send those slaves to the mines instead!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:21:53 No.29276551 Report

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>>29276483
Leech Life.... shittiest of Bug moves... replaced Dig, a useful ground move...
K

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:23:51 No.29276576 Report

Quoted By: >>29276619

Are you serious?

That has been the biggest complaint since gen 1: the faggot HM's. If anyone wants to keep them they must be supremely autistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:24:06 No.29276584 Report

Quoted By: >>29276619 >>29276688 >>29276870

>>29275115
It's not about liking. It's about making things too easy. HMs were a facet of the game, a mark that you had achieved something. Annoying, yes, but you had to work for it. In previous gens you had to find the HM and then you had to find a pokemon that could learn.
But now... Honestly, I'm not surprised they got rid of HMs. They have literally just been giving out HMs in the last game. Now they're just giving us a pokemon that already has the HM learned.
Potions restore more HP...

Nuzlocks and Speedruns are going to be boring and easy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:27:07 No.29276619 Report

Quoted By: >>29276631

>>29276584
I literally can't understand how someone could be this autistic. This guy >>29276576 has the right idea completely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:28:02 No.29276631 Report

Quoted By: >>29277763

>>29276619
Only if you want a game to spoon feed you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:29:06 No.29276646 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274839
Because then you would have to catch one of the few Pokemon that are rideable anyway to progress, completely nullifying the removal of HMs, in fact making it even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:30:26 No.29276659 Report

Quoted By: >>29276724 >>29276784

I wish all people who support hm use would die. Not ironically either.

This is an objectively good change in the game. I've been waiting for this moment since gen 1. It's almost unbelievable that people actually want HMs back.

I refuse to share a board worth these people. Seriously what's wrong with you? How could you enjoy being forced to always have certain pokemon on your team? You can do monoteam runs now without worrying now.

I'm just so flabbergasted and frustrated that people actually want HMs back.
You people don't like games, you don't like pokemon. The only thing these people like is to complain. It's not about being a GF apologist. They do a lot of bad and some of it is unforgivable BUT THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE TIMES.

FUCK YOU AND I WISH FOR BAD LUCK AND MISFORTUNE TO INFEST YOUR PATHETIC SOUL FOR ALL ETERNITY.

YOU PEOPLE ARE MAKING ME UNIRONICALL EDGY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:32:15 No.29276688 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276584
Finding an HM and a compatible Pokemon were never even a part of the challenge, if you ever had trouble with either of these you should really start getting worried about your mental capabilities, you might be retarded.

The real "challenge" (if any) was being forced to gimp your Pokemon out of one their move slots and remain like that for the best part of the game, the rest of the game before the move deleter. I'm glad they removed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:33:47 No.29276712 Report

Quoted By:

>>29271719
Could be said about the last 20 years of complaining about HMs then, faglord

>Let's summon le charizard :^))))) to fly instead of using your bird and also summon le tauros and a shark :^))))))

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:34:32 No.29276724 Report

Quoted By: >>29276733 >>29276784

>>29276659
>I wish all people who support hm use would die. Not ironically either.

I don't wish you the same thing because it seems like you're already a suffering person, so death would be too easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:35:22 No.29276733 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276724
Wew now this is edgy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:35:56 No.29276745 Report

Quoted By:

I think they could at least make HM's look good in modern pokemon games instead of keeping them as discs. What are you gonna do? Shove it in their faces? You don't just carry a DVD player round with you all day, if the disc contains a virtual demonstration of how to perform the move. It's 2016, come on. Change the design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:36:13 No.29276751 Report

Quoted By: >>29276779 >>29276832 >>29277229

>remember playing crystal
>bomb ass team bout to catch Lugia
>Feraligatr, Suicune, Crobat, Snorlax, Golem, Gyarados
>Have to replace one with fucking lvl 7 hoothoot w/ flash

Why will anyone miss this

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:36:23 No.29276753 Report

Quoted By: >>29276915 >>29277296

>people are unironically defending HMS in this very thread
I don't understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:38:18 No.29276779 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276751
I remember playing Ruby as a kid and utterly fucking my Swampert up with an almost all HM move moveset

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:38:22 No.29276784 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276659
>>29276724
Also, I forgot to say I don't support HMs either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:39:27 No.29276800 Report

Quoted By:

>HMs make the game harder
Are you people Kalosperm or retarded?

Having your hm slave shitmons meant experience got split among less pokemon which meant the ones you were using were a higher level

But even if your stupidity is correct that's not how difficulty should work, by arbitrarily limiting your options

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:41:42 No.29276832 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276751
Anon, I don't know. There are people in this world that are just retarded and some of those people browse this board and I can't fathom how they're so retarded that they would enjoy removing one of their wives for a mon they'll only use briefly to overcome an annoying inconvenience.

I thought I was autistic. But this is a whole new level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:43:18 No.29276864 Report

Quoted By: >>29276886

>>29271558
As long as some come back as TMs I'm fine with it. Losing Surf and Waterfall would really suck imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:43:33 No.29276870 Report

Quoted By: >>29277002 >>29277220

>>29276584
>HMs were a facet of the game

As was the Special stat. Bad features get changed/culled.

>a mark that you had achieved something
>you had to work for it

Trivial tasks are not meaningful achievements.

Only post about game design or "challenge" if you have played games other than Pokémon. Your horizon is tiny.

>In previous gens you had to find the HM and then you had to find a pokemon that could learn.

Neither of which were ever difficult. Actually, forcing the player to waste one or two party slots on HM slaves even pushed the player towards using fewer Pokémon, which makes the game easier because spreading your EXP across six Pokémon used to be a player trap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:44:36 No.29276886 Report

Quoted By: >>29276957

>>29276864
Fly, Surf, and Waterfall are now TMs. Struggle Bug, Rock Smash, and Power-Up Punch were removed to make room for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:46:25 No.29276915 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276753
Special snowflake education + Stockholm syndrome + autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:48:51 No.29276957 Report

Quoted By: >>29276999

>>29276886
Oh that's good to hear. PuP and Struggle bug were minor losses but it still sucks they're gone. Rock Smash can fuck right off though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:50:13 No.29276979 Report

Quoted By: >>29278224

>>29274744
You remind me of those kids in "Spoiled Rich Kid collections" where you are given a car, but instead of being happy that you were given anything, you complain that it's not the color you wanted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:50:34 No.29276987 Report

Quoted By: >>29277001 >>29277215

I just hope that the actual moves my aren't cut. But that would just be stupid, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:51:25 No.29276999 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276957
Not gone just not tms

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:51:39 No.29277001 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276987
I'm sorry, but what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:51:42 No.29277002 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276870
You can stop wasting your time. If these kind of people we're going to respond to logic they wouldn't have complained about this situation in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:53:30 No.29277032 Report

Quoted By: >>29278224

>>29274744
Yeah dude did you just suddenly become an expert at training Tauroses to allow people to ride them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 12:53:31 No.29277033 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274607
You fucking serious mate? Riding on a defined rental Pokemon is less immersive than your HM slave you had to get that turns into Lapras?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:01:30 No.29277173 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274607
>it's less immersive to go to my PC take out my shitty paras, and cut this twig I should be able to karate chop myself just to go on with my adventure and then have to go to another pc and switch out my shitty paras for my not shitty parasect because I don't want to waste a move on shitty cut than it is to use my pokeuber for an instantaneous twig karate chop by some assholes shitty paras all the while keeping my not shitty parasect nice and snug in my party

Autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:02:43 No.29277197 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276474
How is a legitimate criticism? HMs are annoying as hell.
>You can't simply delete them for better moves
>You need a move deleter to delete HMs
>You can't transfer HM moves
>You have to take up 1-2 slots on your team to travel, leaving party members underleveled
Hell, the HMs are TMs now. So you probably can still your shitty Bidoof HM slave to surf around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:03:37 No.29277215 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276987
Surf, Waterfall, and Fly are in the games as TMs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:03:51 No.29277220 Report

Quoted By: >>29277264 >>29277307 >>29277329 >>29277750

>>29276870
>features get changed/culled
And the game becomes easier as a result.

>Only post about game design or "challenge" if you have played games other than Pokémon. Your horizon is tiny.
We're not talking about other games. We're talking about pokemon. Your horizon is flawed.

>Neither of which were ever difficult.
Have you ever played a Nuzlock or Speed Run?
I'm going to assume your just a casual player because if you played either format you'd understand how managing HMs and HM Slaves could be difficult when you have limited time, resources or Pokemon.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:04:06 No.29277225 Report

Quoted By:

>Flash changed from a HM to a TM
>could still be used to light caves
>Rock Smash changed from a TM to a HM to a TM to a HM
>could still be used to smash rocks
>Surf, Fly and Waterfall changed from HM to TM
>this apparently means they can't be used?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:04:14 No.29277229 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276751
>HGSS
>hell yeah, gonna challenge Red
>wait fuck, I need a mon for rock climb

Fuck HMs. In one of the random what-if threads not too long ago, I saw someone hoping for HMs to be just some disk that you insert to some gadget you carry (like a hoverboard instead of bike and basically act as the swiss army knife to get through stuff as you unlock more HMs). So glad to see it gone now and in a more interesting way too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:06:04 No.29277264 Report

Quoted By: >>29277314 >>29277332

>>29277220
>I'm mad that gf ruined my self imposed difficulty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:07:49 No.29277296 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276753
It's "The newer gen's past my favorite gen are bad because of reasons that I excuse my favorite gen for" episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:08:24 No.29277307 Report

Quoted By: >>29277332

>>29277220
RED ALERT SOMEONE IS DEFENDING SPECIAL

These are the people that like hms, and also seem to have never played the games if you think special makes it harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:08:49 No.29277314 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277264
In honour of guys like these, let's create a new run for them: the HM run, where you MUST have two shitty pokemon on you at all times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:09:04 No.29277318 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274162
So? It was cool and could be improved upon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:09:42 No.29277329 Report

Quoted By: >>29277380

>>29277220
I don't know if you're serious or just pretending to be retarded, but if so, congratulations, it looks very genuine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:09:53 No.29277332 Report

Quoted By: >>29277402 >>29277410 >>29277528 >>29277581

>>29277264
Not mad. Just disappointed. GF has been making the games easier in every gen. This is just another step down the wrong path.

>>29277307
I'm not defending Special. That's an example of a good change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:10:32 No.29277343 Report

Quoted By:

>>29273563
Contrarions, anon. They like to argue and seem cool by not sharing the common opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:12:40 No.29277380 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277329
I know your not pretending to be retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:13:01 No.29277388 Report

Quoted By: >>29277402

people really need to defog their thoughts and see the humor in this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:13:59 No.29277402 Report

Quoted By: >>29277479

>>29277332
How is the removal of HMs making the games easier? There's literally no challenge involved in forcing the player to use some shitmon instead of their bro just to cut down a fucking tree.

Fuck man, it's not even like Pokemon has ever been difficult either. The entire reason shit like the Nuzlocke exists is because the games have always been piss easy.

>>29277388
That would take a lot of strength anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:14:23 No.29277410 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277332
It's not about hard or easy. Gf made the games less tedious.

I want to play the game with the team i want. This is fundamental to pokemon. Choosing your team. I dont want to be forced to switch out someone on my team for something I'm only going to use for a minute or two just to get by.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:15:15 No.29277428 Report

Quoted By: >>29277475 >>29277682

Can someone tell me the number of how many Pokémon have been confirmed now? I'm trying to avoid looking at the dex spoiler so I just want a number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:17:44 No.29277475 Report

Quoted By: >>29277501 >>29277682

>>29277428
I think it was around 80 or so new mons? Counting Alolan forms and UBS, of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:17:50 No.29277479 Report

Quoted By: >>29277592

>>29277402
>it's not even like Pokemon has ever been difficult either. The entire reason shit like the Nuzlocke exists is because the games have always been piss easy.
And that's the problem. GF found a way to make even self imposed difficulty easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:18:54 No.29277501 Report

Quoted By: >>29277539 >>29277682

>>29277475
FUCK really? There's like at least 30 alolan forms it feels like. Thanks anon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:20:25 No.29277528 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277332
Cutting the time you need to progress doesn't mean it's less challenging, especially on play thoughts where you know where to use all the HM. It just forces you to catch a shitmon, use it as a slave, box it when you don't need it, use it for about 5 minutes, then switch back to a non-shitmon that you need to grind to the levels of the rest of your team. Giving us ride Pokemon cuts all of that time loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:20:32 No.29277533 Report

Quoted By:

>>29271637
>S-S-SH-SH-SH-SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everytime kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:20:46 No.29277539 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277501
I think it's more around 20-25, but you're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:22:28 No.29277581 Report

Quoted By: >>29277623

>>29277332
Time for the daily lesson that /vp/ keeps failing to understand: tedium ≠ difficulty

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:22:28 No.29277582 Report

Quoted By: >>29277632 >>29277748

>People want HMs removed and replaced with items
>Shit similar to that happens
>"WAAAHH WAHHH, MY HAICH EMS"
Every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:22:58 No.29277592 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277479
Do you really think they should work around a fan self imposed challenge less than 1% have tried?

Regardless this doesn't make it easier with exp share off for the millionth time and I would rather an easier game that gives me more freedom to play the way I want than a harder game that forces me to run linoone for the hundredth time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:24:53 No.29277623 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277581
tedium is difficulty in speed runs

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:25:26 No.29277632 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277582
>mario kart 7
>has waluigi pinball
>no waluigi
>adds that bee almost no one knew/cared for instead.

No seriously, whoever thought that was a good idea at the time deserves to be slapped with a fish

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:25:44 No.29277635 Report

Quoted By:

I love that HMs are gone. The rental thing works fine, but since it does let you call pokemon you don't carry with you all the time, I would have preferred it being able to call your own pokemon from your box, or if you have them with you, ride the ones in your party. Just like with registering items, you register a pokemon to the riding or surfing slot. They still only need to animate the pokemon that can actually carry you, you maintain stylistic control over navigation without sacrificing slots in your party, everyone wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:26:47 No.29277656 Report

Quoted By:

>>29271558
I've created a thread about it some days ago and all I got was massive "This is a good thing anon, fuck you". Just want to say fuck you for every single anon now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:28:37 No.29277682 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277428
>>29277475
>>29277501
No, it's around 82, UBs are Pokemon. Counting alolan forms and Zygarde, it goes to 96-98 total

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:32:13 No.29277745 Report

Quoted By: >>29277902

First of all, I think the rental pokemon is the best thing SM has brought to the franchise so far.

But I have to say that this thread must have the greatest amount of condensed strawmanning I've ever seen in my life.
Most of the people complaining hated HMs as much as anyone, they just think that, while the solution is welcomed, it could have been done better.
Whether they are right or not (they don't in my opinion) I find ridiculous how everyone is jumping and accusing them all of wanting the HMs back.
/vp/ in leak season is horrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:32:28 No.29277748 Report

Quoted By: >>29277857

>>29277582
>/vp/ is one person

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:32:32 No.29277750 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277220
Main Pokémon games are incredibly easy and have been since Gen 1. Removing one feature that makes special challenge runs based on external rules marginally easier is not a particularly meaningful change.

What do you know about "challenge" in Pokémon? Have you played Stadium 1 and 2? Virtually every single time some dunce cries about old gens being "better" or "harder" it turns out they haven't even played the games that made them worthwhile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:33:15 No.29277763 Report

Quoted By:

>>29276631
>Want to get rid of something tedious

>Spoon-feeding

Wow. Actual autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:38:32 No.29277857 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277748
>>People = all of /vp/
k.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:39:35 No.29277867 Report

Quoted By:

>>29271733
>barely your own adventure.

And having to use a Pokemon you probably don't even like to progress is more of an adventure because...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:41:53 No.29277902 Report

Quoted By: >>29278014 >>29278055

>>29277745
>/vp/ in leak season is horrible.

It's always like that. Example: /vp/ honestly tried to defend Blue's Rhyhorn in gen 1 having shit moves with "giving it better level-up moves would've made the game easier". Most people on this board don't play or understand videogames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:48:07 No.29278014 Report

Quoted By:

>>29277902
If I know how to mess around with roms, I'd make a hacked game specially for /vp/ where the starter pokemon you are allowed to choose is either magikarp or feebas. And the wild pokemon in the first route are geodude with only explosion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:49:47 No.29278047 Report

Quoted By: >>29278077

The main problem with HMs is not being able to easily get rid of them like a TM. All they had to do was get HMs to act like TMs and reduce the amount of HMs needed to get around. I only started to really hate HMs in RSE because you could not walk five feet out of a city without needing at least one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:50:11 No.29278055 Report

Quoted By: >>29278089

>>29277902
Didn't one of his Pokemon also only have three moves too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:51:26 No.29278077 Report

Quoted By: >>29278468

>>29278047
Isn't that sort of a fail safe? I vaguely remember there were situations where you could pretty much be stuck if say, your HM slave leveled up with new move and you replaced one of the HM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:52:06 No.29278089 Report

Quoted By: >>29278126

>>29278055
Yeah, Exeggutor's Gen 1 movepool is Barrage, Hypnosis, Stomp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:53:49 No.29278122 Report

Quoted By:

>>29271637
>>29272353
>>29274823

>Someone likes something I like and I can't argue with them.
>Better call them a shill. That'll teach them to like things I don't.

God, I really hate you assholes. You will literally complain about anything, will you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:54:04 No.29278126 Report

Quoted By:

>>29278089
The literal epitome of difficulty in Pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:58:29 No.29278224 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274744
>>29274796
>>29276979
>>29277032
You could ride Sharpedo, Wailord, and Kyogre on the water and they all had unique abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 13:59:42 No.29278253 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274744
Look at this expert game dev everybody, he knows exactly how it's done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:02:21 No.29278299 Report

Quoted By:

>>29271707
hnnnnng

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:04:00 No.29278333 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274633
>>29274700
This. Instead of the old way of inserting discs and them instantly knowing it, now it's made it seem like there are people whose job is train specific pokemon for the role. It actually makes the poke world more interesting. Hell, I could see these being made as mini games like in HGSS where you act as apprentices for these people and do stuff to train Tauros etc for their tasks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:10:09 No.29278468 Report

Quoted By:

>>29278077
I mean for SM. With TMs having infinite use, it's safe to change them. For added safety just make it so that you cannot throw away TMs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:12:01 No.29278515 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274607
>Not immersive
There's a reason those pokemon exist and are summonable, not to mention that since Alola is based on a tropical holiday, you're bound to get access to facilities to make your stay more enjoyable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:14:21 No.29278559 Report

Quoted By: >>29278605 >>29278764 >>29279273

It's genuinely concerning that some people are actually DISAPPOINTED about this info. This is like the infinite tms in gen 5 all over again because it made the game too "easy"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:16:23 No.29278605 Report

Quoted By: >>29279802

>>29278559
Are you fucking serious? People literally complained about the best change in Pokemon since the Physical/Special split?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:23:12 No.29278764 Report

Quoted By: >>29278885 >>29278973

>>29278559
Next to no one here played Stadium or any other game like it, so they don't understand what it takes to make Pokémon games challenging at all. That's why people are so obsessed with level differences and gimped movepools as "balance".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:26:50 No.29278836 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274162
Soaring was nice if you ever forgot your Fly pokemon, it only took a little longer to get somewhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:28:25 No.29278879 Report

Quoted By:

>>29272722
>having to hold B and left/right on the circle pad

You can't do that easily with one hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:28:34 No.29278885 Report

Quoted By: >>29278995

>>29278764
Was Stadium really that hard? I beat it with rentals as a little kid and now keep hearing that's near impossible

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:29:18 No.29278909 Report

Quoted By:

>>29274162
It looked cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:30:12 No.29278937 Report

Quoted By:

Waterfall, surf, and fly are TMs now.
Nothing of value was lost.

No more shitmon with shit moves in party for sake of overworked shit.

Feels fucking good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:31:30 No.29278973 Report

Quoted By:

>>29278764
>Stadium
FUCK YOU AND YOUR WRAP BULLSHIT LANCE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:32:25 No.29278995 Report

Quoted By: >>29279130

>>29278885
It wasn't "hard", but it was miles above anything the main games had to offer, especially the cups where you couldn't use Mewtwo.

Round 2 of either Stadium game with only rentals is basically hell. Stadium's Round 2 Pika Cup is basically RNG if you can't use your own Pokémon. Look up Werster's runs of those games if you want to see how bad it gets.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:34:02 No.29279036 Report

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The fact that people are unironically defending HMs...holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:34:19 No.29279040 Report

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>>29271585
GOD DAMN IT CARLOS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:37:52 No.29279130 Report

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>>29278995
>the team that entirely used confusion
>the team that used Para + OHKO moves

Thank goodness getting Surfing Pikachu let you rely on Mewtwo for prime cup, or that would just be crazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:44:42 No.29279273 Report

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>>29278559
I was disappointed by the TMs.
Then I bought PuP and taught it to half my team.
Shits cash yo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:52:10 No.29279471 Report

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>>29271558
You're fucking kidding right? HMs have always sucked. How can anyone whine about them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 14:55:26 No.29279560 Report

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>>29274839
I'd rather rent a car for free and put miles on that then put miles on my own car.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 15:01:56 No.29279712 Report

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>>29274839
Your Tauros wasn't professionally trained to take on riders.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 15:04:04 No.29279759 Report

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>mfw Mt. Coronet will now be bearable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Oct 2016 15:05:48 No.29279802 Report

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>>29278605
Yes, people legitimately complained about it.
Proving that any change to anything will have people whining.

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