>Anyone defending HMs at all
>Implying HM slaves are anything but a nuisance
>Implying having to teach your main team pokes shit moves is anything but a nuisance
>Implying that HMs are valid additions to the game, rather than game developer tricks to cheeply add gameplay time
why the fuck are rock smash and cut two different and equally shitty HMs.
Waterfall is literally the priviliege of moving upwards in completely arbitrary spots.
Flash and Defog are not worth wasting a move slot, but very annoying to deal with.
Saying that mandatory HMs made the game more "difficult" is like saying that playing the game with the screen upside down and mirrored is an ideal hardmode. It isn't, it's just a way to waste time.
Pic related is any nostalgia retard who will come up with reasons why rainbow coloured roadblock removers are good gameplay mechanics.