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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:23:25 No.29310091 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29310109 >>29310304 >>29312507 >>29312623 >>29313462 >>29317712

ITT post Pokemon that just keep getting better

>gen I
Amnesia
>gen II
+20 to Sp.Atk
>gen III
Calm Mind
>gen IV
Slack Off
>gen V
Regenerator and Scald
>gen VI
<

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:24:35 No.29310109 Report

Quoted By: >>29310134 >>29310151 >>29310203 >>29310304 >>29312364 >>29313761 >>29314784

>>29310091
it's always the same pokemon. the rich is getting richer

>Gengar
>Gyarados
>tyranitar
>Starmie
>Azumarill
>Breloom
etc

I really wish they get knocked down this gen. Even just for a gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:25:45 No.29310134 Report

Quoted By: >>29310189 >>29313427

>>29310109

if tyranitar gets "knocked down," I WILL kill myself and it WILL be your fault

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:26:50 No.29310151 Report

Quoted By: >>29310203 >>29310735 >>29313117

>>29310109
>Starmie
>good
It's literally just a Smogon meme

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:27:28 No.29310157 Report

Quoted By: >>29312597 >>29313427 >>29314080

>gen 2
It's shit
>gen 3
Huge Power
>gen 4
It can actually utilize Huge Power now
>gen 6
I have become Fairy, destroyer of Dragons

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:28:51 No.29310189 Report

Quoted By: >>29310206

>>29310134
>not having a life
>one gen of suffering is enough to drive him over the edge
man up. Tyranitar isn't a bitch like you right now. You would not make him proud

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:29:26 No.29310203 Report

Quoted By: >>29310309 >>29313407

>>29310109
Anyone else hoping for a ton of stat boosts for older mons? Loved that shit in gen 6 but so many more could use 20 or so stat points to push them into usable tier. Also give all starters 535 BST that triggers my autism
>>29310151
Starmie is a fucking god compared to most shitmons, smogon meming aside. It has a great movepool, stat distribution, and good abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:29:33 No.29310206 Report

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>>29310189

I have a life and her name is tyranitar

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:31:38 No.29310243 Report

Quoted By: >>29310281

>gf will NEVER buff my broduck
What did they mean by this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:32:31 No.29310251 Report

Quoted By: >>29310306 >>29310325 >>29317743 >>29317775

>gen 2
Even less moves than Flareon, only used for Baton Pass
>gen 3
Slightly more moves but not much
>D/P
Technician, STAB moves that aren't complete shit, physical/special split for Pursuit, Roost
>Platinum
Bullet Punch, Superpower, Bug Bite
>Gen 6
Mega

I'm a bit worried it'll all be downhill from here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:34:19 No.29310281 Report

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>>29310243
Weird, since Masuda said its one of his favorites.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:35:36 No.29310297 Report

Quoted By: >>29312385

>Gen 3
Spore and Mach Punch
>Gen 4
Poison Heal
>Gen 5
Technician and Low Sweep
>Gen 6
Rock Tomb buffed to 60 BP

I fucking hate this thing too, but I can't deny that it's good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:36:02 No.29310304 Report

Quoted By: >>29310769 >>29313117

>>29310091
Amnesia became shit in gen 2 tho, so it actually got a lot worse then. It's probably never been as good as it was in gen 1, although it's slowly been improving since then

>>29310109
Gyarados fucking sucks, the only time it was ever really good was gen 4 and it was decent in gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:36:15 No.29310306 Report

Quoted By: >>29310329

>>29310251
Nah, it'll get a buffed Leech Life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:36:29 No.29310309 Report

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>>29310203
>Anyone else hoping for a ton of stat boosts for older mons?
It would be great but it's not happening. GF loves their favorites too much

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:37:38 No.29310325 Report

Quoted By: >>29310343 >>29310375 >>29310969

>>29310251
>Forgetting U-Turn
>Using Bug Bite ever
As for downhill, I doubt it. Leech Life is a TM anon, they probably buffed that shit.

If it's 60 power or less good fucking god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:38:02 No.29310329 Report

Quoted By: >>29310361 >>29310365

>>29310306
what do you think leech life's new base power will be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:38:52 No.29310343 Report

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>>29310325
Bug Bite is good on SD sets, but he really shouldn't have forgotten about U-Turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:40:03 No.29310361 Report

Quoted By: >>29310397 >>29313300

>>29310329
Between 40-60. I don't see it pulling a Giga Drain/Drain Punch because shit like Zubat learns it fuck early.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:40:17 No.29310365 Report

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>>29310329
60 is probably too good to be true, I feel like they will either make it 75 like Drain punch or 50 like draining kiss(with the increased healing). Pretty hype regardless, bug is getting a lot of good stuff this gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:40:44 No.29310375 Report

Quoted By: >>29310437

>>29310325
I put U-turn in the STAB options that aren't complete shit list. I guess it'd only really be Iron Head and U-Turn. That said, that priority stopping terrain seems pretty hindering, especially if that psychic thing is also a fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:42:10 No.29310397 Report

Quoted By: >>29310437

>>29310361
As low as 40? If it was that low I would be sad that it takes up a tm slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:45:01 No.29310437 Report

Quoted By: >>29310454 >>29310489 >>29310507 >>29313300

>>29310365
>I feel like they will either make it 75 like Drain punch
No way. Not with how early some mons learn it. But if it copies Draining Kiss 50 power 75% heal? Good fucking god imagine that shit with Technician.

>>29310375
>That said, that priority stopping terrain seems pretty hindering, especially if that psychic thing is also a fairy.
You realize Scizor will demolish the thing, right? Fairy or not. At most you just run your own Tapu and play Terrain ears.

>>29310397
Only if they copy Mega Drain. If it copies Draining Kiss Leech Life just became a must-run on Scizor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:46:03 No.29310454 Report

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>>29310437
>ears
Wars*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:46:10 No.29310455 Report

Quoted By: >>29317953

It feels good, I just hope it stays amazing in gen 7 too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:48:08 No.29310489 Report

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>>29310437
Fairy makes bug and dark moves neutral, Bullet Punch won't work. As long as the defense on it isn't complete shit, it can finish with HP Fire or do whatever. That said, I'm curious to see how terrain will affect everything.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:48:52 No.29310501 Report

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>an uncommonly used physical sweeper with a decent speed
>"psssh... nice fairies, kid..."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:49:18 No.29310507 Report

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>>29310437
>50 power with 75% heal Leech Life
thanks for the hope anon, I want this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:54:21 No.29310565 Report

Quoted By: >>29310633

That's a nice physical attacker you have there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:57:19 No.29310599 Report

Quoted By: >>29310651

>>29310507
>112.5 BP move with 75% heal
WE ASSAULT VEST NOW BOYO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 15:59:09 No.29310633 Report

Quoted By: >>29310700

>>29310565
Physical attacker? Don't you mean excellent Rocky Helmet pivot/Hazard setter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:00:11 No.29310651 Report

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>>29310599
>Assault Vest Scizor
>Leech Life
>U-Turn
>Pursuit/Knock Off/Superpower
>Bullet Punch
GAMEFREAK PLEASE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:03:08 No.29310700 Report

Quoted By: >>29310719 >>29310751 >>29310753 >>29312193

>>29310633
You're kind of stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:04:28 No.29310719 Report

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>>29310700
No more reasons to use Garchomp as an attacker. Deal with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:05:10 No.29310735 Report

Quoted By: >>29310948

>>29310151
The power creep actually got starmie this time, well his analytic lo hydropumps coming from 115 speed are a sight to behold regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:05:52 No.29310751 Report

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>>29310700
Not like SD or Scarf set is bad, it's just much more used as a physical pivot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:06:02 No.29310753 Report

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>>29310700
no, he's smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:06:43 No.29310769 Report

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>>29310304
Mold breaker taunt in Gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:07:55 No.29310793 Report

Quoted By: >>29310860 >>29310879

Starmie is great, it can do a wide range of things like 'use rapid spin' and 'die'

10/10 mon smogon approved

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:11:35 No.29310860 Report

Quoted By: >>29312300

>>29310793
And here we have an idiot on its natural habitat.

Starmie is dangerous as a spine because of its speed and its ability to fuck up stuff switching in, lo+analytic is just retarded on its power. Also starmie can win match ups with a bulky reflect type set, it shits on bisharp, Ttar and even mega Venusaur/Ferrothorn.

Dont underestimate the speedy starfish dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:12:43 No.29310879 Report

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>>29310793
It can do a lot more than that. It's still a top tier OU pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:16:29 No.29310948 Report

Quoted By: >>29311796

>>29310735
Honestly, the only thing that seemed to save it was the bans. Greninja and Aegislash didn't seem like fun for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:17:47 No.29310969 Report

Quoted By: >>29311547

>>29310325
>Not using Bug Bite
>Not using its strongest bug move with bonus utilitarian functions
Wew lad
I mean U-Turn is good but it's better for Choice, BB is better for SD variants

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 16:54:04 No.29311547 Report

Quoted By: >>29312284

>>29310969
>Implying a 90 BP Bug attack that just destroys berries when you can run Knock-Off is good
U-Turn is so much better it's stupid.
>MUH SWORDS DANCE
Shut the fuck up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:08:55 No.29311796 Report

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>>29310948
Analytic lo hydropump still fucked 90% of aegislash sets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:33:01 No.29312193 Report

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>>29310700
It's the tourist invasion, they don't get the way we type. Really saddening no one else understands you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:35:13 No.29312225 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:38:38 No.29312284 Report

Quoted By: >>29312359 >>29312678

>>29311547
you do understand that mega scizor with +2 atk can destroy after using bug bite and have the added benefit of being able to stay in for the next mon. then bullet punch til you win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:39:41 No.29312300 Report

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>>29310860
lo analytic hydro pump on switchins are so fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:42:13 No.29312359 Report

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>>29312284
>Talonflame exists
>any fire move exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:42:26 No.29312364 Report

Quoted By: >>29312423 >>29312602 >>29316983

>>29310109
>Starmie
>Getting better
It never gets buffs. Scald doesn't count because it pretty much changed the entire type.

Also OP Salamence.
Gen 3:
Really good with DD and Choice Band
Gen 4:
The split gave it really good stats, and gained outrage
Gen 5:
Moxie
Gen 6:
Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:43:42 No.29312385 Report

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>>29310297
>Rock Tomb
You forgot Bullet Seed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:46:13 No.29312423 Report

Quoted By: >>29312459

>>29312364
Salamance was pretty shit in gen 5 honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:48:05 No.29312459 Report

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>>29312423
He was just outclassed by Dragonite and Rain Gyarados as a DD user.
Gen 6 finally knocked him down with Zard X but his Mega became the second or third best mega.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:49:30 No.29312497 Report

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Slowbro is my favorite mon you can run so many sets with it I hope it gets a z move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:50:21 No.29312503 Report

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Scolipede from Gen V to Gen VI

>gains one of the best abilities in the game
>gains attack boost
>gets a bunch of Fairies to kill

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:50:30 No.29312507 Report

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>>29310091
Dragonite gen 4 onward

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:56:11 No.29312597 Report

Quoted By: >>29312671 >>29313306 >>29314683

>>29310157
still a shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:56:20 No.29312602 Report

Quoted By: >>29312960 >>29313190

>>29312364
>It never gets buffs
Yet it has remained OU for nearly 6 unbroken generations

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 17:57:47 No.29312623 Report

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>>29310091
I hope Slowbro can learn Aurora Veil

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:00:29 No.29312671 Report

Quoted By: >>29314683

>>29312597
>Azu
>Shitmon
You didn't even try

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:01:04 No.29312678 Report

Quoted By: >>29313044

>>29312284
You do realize unless your opponent is a massive shitter that Scizor doesn't have the luxury to do that, right? Who the fuck builds a team without fire coverage with Scizor and Ferrothorn running around?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:18:40 No.29312960 Report

Quoted By: >>29313190

>>29312602
It has good speed but that's it. It's only OU because smogon has a hard on for spinners

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:23:25 No.29313044 Report

Quoted By: >>29314053

>>29312678
Not him but that's supposing mons with fire moves are gone

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:27:06 No.29313117 Report

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>>29310151
>>29310304

You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Shut the fuck up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:29:46 No.29313190 Report

Quoted By: >>29313271 >>29313309 >>29313454

>>29312602
>>29312960
It dropped out of OU at the beginning of Gen 6. Gengar is the only one who's always stayed in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:33:42 No.29313271 Report

Quoted By: >>29313358

>>29313190
I don't see it coming back to OU for gen 7. I think it's the most overrated pokemon in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:35:39 No.29313300 Report

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>>29310437
>>29310361
don't forget that they could very easily change when Zubat and others get leech life

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:35:50 No.29313306 Report

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>>29312597
Stay mad. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:35:56 No.29313309 Report

Quoted By: >>29313422 >>29313423

>>29313190
Gengar was BL for a while in gen3. Nobody remembers this because everyone got into comp in gen4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:38:04 No.29313358 Report

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>>29313271
That remains to be seen with how the meta unfolds. The reason Starmie is consistently OU is it's the best self-reliant Spinner there is considering its Speed, its reliable recovery, its capability to remove status, its ability to deal with the Ghost-types of OU, and its ability to threaten Pursuit trappers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:40:31 No.29313407 Report

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>>29310203
>good abilities
It has one good ability.

The other two are garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:41:38 No.29313422 Report

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>>29313309
You can't find anything about it being BL from Google.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:41:39 No.29313423 Report

Quoted By: >>29313465 >>29313491 >>29313500

>>29313309
>Gengar was BL for a while in gen3
Because you couldn't fucking get one at the start of gen 3 you stupid pavement ape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:41:51 No.29313427 Report

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>>29310134
do it
>>29310157
one of my best bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:43:00 No.29313454 Report

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>>29313190
>It dropped out of OU at the beginning of Gen 6
i said nearly 6 unbroken generations

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:43:29 No.29313462 Report

Quoted By: >>29313599 >>29313617

>>29310091
Gen2: Extreme Speed
Gen3: Intimidate
Gen4: Can use Overheat to be mixed; Morning Sun
Gen5: Close Combat, Wild Charge
Gen6: Fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:43:31 No.29313465 Report

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>>29313423
You always make this terrible shitpost and everyone always calls you it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:44:48 No.29313491 Report

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>>29313423
You always make this terrible shitpost and everyone always calls you a retard for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:45:20 No.29313500 Report

Quoted By: >>29313669

>>29313423
>BL
>Meaning it was usable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:51:48 No.29313599 Report

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>>29313462
Gen 4 made it able to use Will o Wisp actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:52:39 No.29313617 Report

Quoted By: >>29315308

>>29313462
>Implying Arcanine was ever good
Oh please. It's stats are too averaged out to be good, it doesn't have a single area it excels in.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 18:55:53 No.29313669 Report

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>>29313500
>Gen 3
It's shit, nice type combo though
>Gen 4
Not much changed, got another Ghots/Dark competitor
>Gen 5
PRANKSTER
>Gen 6
MEGA
I'm pretty content

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:00:20 No.29313761 Report

Quoted By: >>29314765

>>29310109
>Azumarill
>before huge power
made me respond

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:15:43 No.29314053 Report

Quoted By: >>29314084

>>29313044
yeah,

>opp has 4 mons all super weak or near mid health
>something that scizor can sd on is in
>sd when they switch
>BP and win

and its really easy to support scizor because it only has one weakness.

>talonflame
what is electric type like raikou and zapdos
>heatran
what are ground types like garchomp and excadril

scizor is good. maybe the best mega competitively to come out of this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:17:19 No.29314080 Report

Quoted By: >>29314331

>>29310157
what moves did gen 4 give it. I know it got Aqua Jet and Superpower was there anything else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:17:36 No.29314084 Report

Quoted By: >>29314138

>>29314053
>maybe the best mega competitively to come out of this gen

No, it's just that the better ones got banned already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:20:12 No.29314138 Report

Quoted By: >>29314212 >>29314247 >>29316876

>>29314084
ah yeah, I remember getting btfo by Mega Mawlie, Khan Lucario and Gengar very early on. Hopefully gen 7 nerfs/new mons give them chance to be OU again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:23:51 No.29314212 Report

Quoted By: >>29314374

>>29314138
It would be strictly based on how the meta shapes, since Smogon operates by legacy.

So for example, even though GF took away Power-Up Punch from Alola-accessible Kangaskhan, Smogon would still permit it. Same way Sludge Wave Gengar was used on Showdown before the event Sludge Wave Gengar was distributed in Gen VI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:25:12 No.29314247 Report

Quoted By: >>29314311 >>29316876

>>29314138
There's no way Gengar is moving down. Same with Salamence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:28:17 No.29314311 Report

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>>29314247
yeah but maybe with sandalit evo and all the new fire types i can use mega mawlie again which would be worth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:29:27 No.29314331 Report

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>>29314080
Waterfall being Physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:31:52 No.29314374 Report

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>>29314212
hopefully the stats and movesets get datamined too and we can start building teams before the game comes out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:49:10 No.29314683 Report

Quoted By: >>29314742

>>29312597
>>29312671
Why do people act like Azumarill is some monster. Yeah it has Huge Power but i don't recall ever having trouble taking one out. Literally any grass type can one shot it. I've even been able to take Belly Drum Aqua Jets and KO this thing. I just don't see the hype.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:52:20 No.29314742 Report

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>>29314683
Play someone who actually knows that they're doing.

Azu was responsible for Mega Venu being everywhere. It wasn't until Volcanion came out that people started being more relaxed about it, since its existence deters Belly Drum from being used, while slower bulky Grass types like Amoonguss can handle the Banded variants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:53:43 No.29314765 Report

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>>29313761
Azumarill was gettinf buffs every gen, which is what the thread was asking

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:54:43 No.29314784 Report

Quoted By: >>29315920 >>29316664

>>29310109
>Starmie
>Getting better each gen

That's a laugh.
It's probably the single greatest mon in the series from a competitive standpoint for doing the same thing for 2 decades straight with virtually no change.

It didn't get a weakness removed or was given a new move to help it succeed in a different play style. It got not one buff, not even a Mega and yet it still stood on top as one of the best.

Starmie isn't "rich getting richer", it's "average joe knows how to keep his money"

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:55:19 No.29314791 Report

Quoted By: >>29314833 >>29314879

>Nothing has changed since it's inception
>Still one of the best Pokemon

He's so good even the Mega is a downgrade.

We are getting Dragon Dance this generation bros, then, our Mega will finally be good and we shall become even more perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:57:28 No.29314833 Report

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>>29314791
ddance will send garchomp straight to ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:58:18 No.29314857 Report

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Skarmory
>Gen 2
Was the best physical wall
>Gen 3
Gets Spikes and Counter
>Gen 4
Gets Roost and Rocks
>Gen 5
Sturdy buff
>Gen 6
Defog

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:58:33 No.29314862 Report

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>Gets formes with lots of cool moves
>Former get retyped making them all even better, specially Wash
>Will o Wisp gets it's accuracy buffed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 19:59:21 No.29314879 Report

Quoted By: >>29314906

>>29314791
Are you dumb? It has received plenty of buffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 20:00:27 No.29314906 Report

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>>29314879
>Plenty
Name 3 more besides Rough Skin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 20:19:49 No.29315308 Report

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>>29313617
I heard its speed is extreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 20:50:26 No.29315920 Report

Quoted By: >>29316981

>>29314784
literally this. It's only OU because of one move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:28:53 No.29316664 Report

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>>29314784
I don't think you could really call gen 1 Starmie 'average joe', it's either the 5th or 6th best mon in the game depending on how you feel about Zam (both of them are definitely below the obvious big 4, but still leagues ahead of anything else)

Starmie is definitely slowly getting worse, relatively speaking. But I think it will hang onto OU assuming 'ninja gets banned again (quite likely)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:41:39 No.29316876 Report

Quoted By: >>29316907

>>29314138
>>29314247
yeah, mega gengar is literally a 130 base speed mon with massive offences, a great movepool and shadow tag. It is permanently uber in any sane singles format. even chandelure would most likely be uber if it had kept shadow tag. it's an obscenely broken ability on anything that doesn't have complete garbage stats. for similar reasons, as laughable as it may sound, alolan dugtrio is actually a very real contender for ubers if it gets any notable boost from regular dugtrio

as for megaluke, also permanently uber because pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:43:20 No.29316907 Report

Quoted By: >>29316962

>>29316876
Did Chandelure ever get shadow tag? That seems busted as hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:46:11 No.29316959 Report

Quoted By: >>29317029

Clefable
>Gen 2
who cares
>Gen 3
who cares
>Gen 4
who cares
>Gen 5
who cares
>Gen 6
Fairy type. God tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:46:19 No.29316962 Report

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>>29316907
its hidden ability in gen 5 was shadow tag, but it was never actually released in the dream world. then they changed it in gen 6 :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:47:25 No.29316981 Report

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>>29315920
That's an understatement.

It's OU because of great Sp Atk, speed and an extremely versatile moveset

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:47:29 No.29316983 Report

Quoted By: >>29317007 >>29317020

>>29312364
>starmie never gets buff
what is natural cure?
what is psyshock?
what is cosmic power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:48:33 No.29317007 Report

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>>29316983
Besides natural cure they are not buffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:49:14 No.29317020 Report

Quoted By:

>>29316983
lmao @ thinking cosmic power starmie is remotely viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:49:35 No.29317029 Report

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>>29316959
>Gen 2
>Who cares

Try again.
The slut had belly drum and moonlight and was decent in that gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:16:28 No.29317554 Report

Quoted By: >>29317592

chansey line in general. got an evo in 2, leftovers in gen 3, eviolite in gen 5. chansey is like, permanently ou

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:18:37 No.29317592 Report

Quoted By: >>29317643

>>29317554
Lefties were in gen 2
Gen3 gave them Seismic Toss which makes it fucking obnoxious to deal with.
Gen 4 gave them rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:21:23 No.29317643 Report

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>>29317592
whoops, I meant natural cure in gen 3 which is a really nice ability for her, but yea seismic toss and rocks are good points

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:24:49 No.29317712 Report

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>>29310091
6th gen was great for bulky stall teams
>Poison Heal Gliscor
>Fun Bro
the tears were delicious

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:27:10 No.29317743 Report

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>>29310251
Was about to post this

Scizorbros unite

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:28:52 No.29317775 Report

Quoted By:

>>29310251
>Gen 7
Leech Life
Watch it happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:39:04 No.29317953 Report

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>>29310455
I might just be forgetting but what did Gliscor actually get in gen 6?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 23:05:48 No.29318435 Report

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>gen 3
Garbage.
>gen 4
Garbage.
>gen 5
Sheer Force, still garbage.
>gen 6
MEGA

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