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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:04:55 No.29316190 View View Reply Original Report

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Okay, all memes and shitposting aside -- what would be needed to make Luchalitten at least UU?

If we assume it's Fire/Dark, what would make it a better choice over Mega Houndoom?

HP - 80
Attack - 125
Defense - 75
Special Attack - 82
Special Defense - 70
Speed - 103
Total = 535
Probably a shit distribution, but would this be something salvageable if it's given a decent moveset?

All other starters are welcome as well!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:05:52 No.29316208 Report

Quoted By: >>29317828

>>29316190
Litten was shown to be faster than Rowlet in the Battle Royale showcase, so there's a decent chance that Beltigre will be reasonably fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:12:22 No.29316331 Report

Quoted By: >>29316362

>>29316190
Fire/Dark with fighting coverage. All it needs. Mega Houndoom is already UU with the same typing, and as a physical attacked that has an item and can do all that it can with fighting coverage will just out right be better.

Rowlet3 needs a fucking miracle to be salvageable though. Gale Wings or some crazy Sniper Crit spam shit is literally its only hope.

Poppmaid on the other hand just needs to be Water/Fairy to be above average, anything else would be a bonus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:13:58 No.29316362 Report

Quoted By: >>29316450

>>29316331
>implying Rowlet3 isn't grass/ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:14:59 No.29316390 Report

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Sucker Punch and Knock Off. If it somehow found a way to get past covert sediments it'd be golden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:18:07 No.29316450 Report

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>>29316362
If that's that case, then it could be really strong with Ghost and Grass stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:21:39 No.29316515 Report

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>>29316190
If Dark type, decent attack stat, Tough Claws for HA and learns Sucker Punch, it could be quite nasty when it comes to mind games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:30:38 No.29316692 Report

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>>29316190
Contrary + close combat.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:34:31 No.29316758 Report

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>>29316190
>125 attack and troll 103 speed

In your fucking dreams kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:44:25 No.29316925 Report

Quoted By: >>29317046 >>29317069 >>29317115

Your stat distribution is good enough for UU as long as it gets a nice HA (like Tough Claws, already mentioned above, this would make a lot of sense on it) and a decent moveset with things like Flare Blitz, Sucker Punch, Close Combat/Superpower.

>>29316758
Sceptile is 105 (SAtk) and 120 (Speed), it's doable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:50:36 No.29317046 Report

Quoted By: >>29317593

>>29316925
Sceptile doesn't have the type and moves to make use of those stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:51:32 No.29317069 Report

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>>29316925
Now that I think about it, no starter evo barring Megas and Ash-Greninja has ever had any base stat as high as 125. The closest is Emboar with its attack stat of 123.
It's possible that Luchalitten could be the one to raise the bar again, but I kinda doubt it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:53:52 No.29317109 Report

Quoted By: >>29317146

>>29316190
Above 100 speed is very nice for UU, unfortunatly it probably will get embroar like stats

There's still a chance with that typing and providing knock off doesn't get nerfed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:54:10 No.29317115 Report

Quoted By: >>29317593

>>29316925
Delphox hit 114 Sp Atk and a troll speed of 104. Still ended wonky because of shitty abilities, but still didn't do too bad for what it got.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:54:39 No.29317124 Report

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>>29316190
yawn non-meme posting are boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:55:51 No.29317146 Report

Quoted By: >>29317219 >>29317222

>>29317109
We know that Litten is the fastest of the starters in their first stage, so Luchalitten will probably get a good speed tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:56:17 No.29317159 Report

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Poppmaid > Water/Fairy > Scald

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:57:35 No.29317187 Report

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100
120
75
90
70
75
HA is a Speed Boost clone called Oiled Up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:58:00 No.29317194 Report

Quoted By: >>29317344 >>29318883

>>29316190
Again why are you assuming it'll be part dark? Base on what? Colour palette?

It has wrestling theme so Fighting for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:58:20 No.29317204 Report

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>>29316190
I imagine its more this
>HP - 80
>Attack - 120
>Defense - 75
>Special Attack - 100
>Special Defense - 70
>Speed - 90
>Total = 535

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:58:55 No.29317219 Report

Quoted By: >>29317391

>>29317146
That means the owl is gonna be pure shit then, that thing needs to hit a good speed tier to be usable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 21:58:57 No.29317222 Report

Quoted By: >>29317391

>>29317146
I wonder why Rowlett isn't the fastest

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:05:13 No.29317344 Report

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>>29317194
Heelers,who are those wrestlers that make foul play in combats.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:07:31 No.29317391 Report

Quoted By: >>29317460

>>29317222
>>29317219
I'm honestly wondering if the base stats shift a bit this time. I know that it has NEVER happened apart from when base forms share a stat and then diverge, but it really could be the case. Rowlet does not look fast, and even though it's mostly fluff it has that round, HP sponge look. It could be possible that it begins with high health that grows slowly while it becomes more fast and offensive as it evolves. Probably a pipe dream based on muh patterns, but I do wonder. Rowlet3 looks like the fastest of the bunch, and at the very least it certainly doesn't look like the one with the highest HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:11:09 No.29317460 Report

Quoted By: >>29317536

>>29317391
Well a major theme of the starters this time seems to be the "troubled teenage phase", so radically different stat distributions between the base and final form seems likely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:12:12 No.29317476 Report

Quoted By: >>29317747 >>29317785

>>29316190
Realistic stats:
100
119
67
106
71
72
And some shit ability like Reckless

Hopefully it stays in PU where it deserves to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:15:57 No.29317536 Report

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>>29317460
I've heard others mention that, but then Popplio's spread seems pretty spot on for what we'd expect from Popp3. High Sp.Att and good bulk with low Speed. Very peculiar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:18:38 No.29317593 Report

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HP - 80
Attack - 120
Defense - 75
Special Attack - 85
Special Defense - 70
Speed - 105

Something close to this is in the realm of possibility, I guess.

>>29317046
Unfortunatelly.

Sceptile physical moveset was (and still is) much better.

>>29317069
>The closest is Emboar with its attack stat of 123.

Indeed, on the other hand, it's slow as fuck to "compensate".

>>29317115
>Still ended wonky because of shitty abilities

Exactly the problem with Delphox (still RU, though), now imagine it with Magic Guard or Magic Bounce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:22:54 No.29317675 Report

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HP - 85
Attack - 120
Defense - 80
Special Attack - 100
Special Defense - 70
Speed - 80
Total = 535

Make it a semi mixed-attacker whose outclassed because of its lack of speed, but if you slap on a Choice Scarf it actually gets a lot done thanks to a versatile moveset that includes Fighting-type attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:27:16 No.29317747 Report

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>>29317476
Basically a slightly modified/improved Emboar, similar to the relationship between Infernape and Blaziken back in the DPP times.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:29:32 No.29317785 Report

Quoted By: >>29317836

>>29317476
You mean pessimistic? You're basing this assumption on what? Your ass? If you got no proof than this is nowhere near realistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:30:20 No.29317800 Report

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>>29316190
>Fire/Dark
haw haw haw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:31:41 No.29317828 Report

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>>29316208
What levels were they? Because if they're like sub-10 I think it would have probably been a nature thing as opposed to a BST thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:32:11 No.29317836 Report

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>>29317785
It's not that pessimistic. I believe they'll put it at a trollish 90-99 speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 22:49:04 No.29318127 Report

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>>29316190
It's just going to be a Physical version of Houndoom@Houndoomite with probably 80-90 Base Speed. Throw a Life Orb on 'em or some shit. He'll have a fighting move pool. Probably sucker punch. That sounds good enough to me. A decent ability should seal the deal. Solar Power isn't too broken so he doesn't really have to live up to much.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Oct 2016 23:27:32 No.29318883 Report

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>>29317194
We're hoping on the concept showing it off as a rowdy dirty fighter that its Fire/Dark

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