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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 06:58:30 No.29327415 View View Reply Original Report

Has there ever been an ingame explanation to why fish pokemon float in battle?

Does it take anyone else out of the immersion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:00:37 No.29327441 Report

Quoted By: >>29329535 >>29331924 >>29332011

It ruins the immersion for me. I forgive gyarados because of the chinese dragon thing though. But once he evolves, that shrimp thing becomes cringeworthy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:01:34 No.29327449 Report

Quoted By: >>29330090 >>29332030

Exactly what would you rather they do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:03:15 No.29327461 Report

Quoted By: >>29329599

>>29327415
They can't do anything else. It's their only option. How the fuck would they otherwise animate School Wishiwashi, for example?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:05:27 No.29327490 Report

Quoted By: >>29330112 >>29331215

I just pretend they're actually levitating. They are monsters after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:06:29 No.29327503 Report

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>>29327415

Because them flopping around or floating in magical water pools that appear below them would be retarded as well.

Especially now that your location reflects in the actual battle, they can't do anything but make them float

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:06:38 No.29327505 Report

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For the purpose of battling, the pokeball actually just emits a hologram so there's no animal cruelty involved.
Done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:09:24 No.29327540 Report

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>>29327415
It's the same reason why Pokemon have bad sizes. They want to moves looks the same on every pokemon. Imagine normal sized Signal beam from normal sized Joltik. That would look WAY off. (But also hilarious)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:11:03 No.29327560 Report

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>>29327415
There's no other way to do it aside from making Water Pokemon totally unusable on land.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:12:08 No.29327570 Report

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>>29327415
They swim through the moisture in the air

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:12:28 No.29327575 Report

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>>29327415
There hasn't been, no. This bothers me less than floating not correlating with flying/levitating/air balloon, though. I really wish Pokemon that weren't in those conditions were on the ground, especially for children trying to learn the mechanics

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:13:53 No.29327587 Report

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>>29327415

Is this the /autism/ general?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:15:14 No.29327598 Report

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Its because Pokemon are magic, duh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:15:42 No.29327606 Report

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>>29327415
No but Size's do, I wish they were to scale in battle.

I remember playing colosseum, and realizing for the first time just how big Wailord was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:22:57 No.29327692 Report

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>not seeing the obvious problem with this
>being a fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:24:03 No.29327703 Report

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I got an idea for OP

Really deep puddles EVERYWHERE even in the ocean...and under it...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:26:00 No.29327710 Report

Quoted By: >>29327832

>>29327415
I've always wondered how surf worked

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:30:12 No.29327734 Report

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>>29327415
that really bothers my autism. I don't like to use water without legs because of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:31:36 No.29327747 Report

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>>29327415
>Does it take anyone else out of the immersion?
Pokemon expects me to believe things a lot more nonsense than this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:34:02 No.29327778 Report

Quoted By: >>29327877

>Lumineon foats on land
>cant use fly

bullshit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:38:25 No.29327822 Report

Quoted By: >>29329905

>>29327415
Because otherwise they'll all look like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:39:43 No.29327832 Report

Quoted By: >>29334597

>>29327710
I've always wondered how watergun/flamethrower/basically every pther move in the game ... worked

You are fucking retarded. kys.
But I guess they should just make it so you can only use water pokemon when there is water in the area. Great fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:43:56 No.29327871 Report

Quoted By: >>29329496

Why do you not need to feed them? This always takes me out of the imersion. I just want the pokemon to die if you dont feed them for a couple of days.
Food should cost like 5000p$ per pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:45:02 No.29327877 Report

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>>29327778
>Floating
>Flying
Are you illiterate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:57:56 No.29327978 Report

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>>29327415
>Does it take anyone else out of the immersion?+ 0 post omitted.

It does take me out of the immersion, but because Pokemon can shoot water attacks maybe they can shoot enough water around them to stand upright. Or they just don't breath water because they're Pokemon. It's better than them being unable to be used on land.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:13:52 No.29328139 Report

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Same reason why you can send out Groudon and standing around while literally in space far above Earth, or while flying in the sky. And then use Earthquake when there isn't any ground nearby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:19:43 No.29328202 Report

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>>29327415
No, because these are already non immersive enough on sheer impossibility alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:32:15 No.29328326 Report

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>>29327415
Why dive works on land?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:33:22 No.29328339 Report

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>>29327415
>muh immersion
Get help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 10:36:31 No.29329459 Report

Quoted By: >>29329510

>>29327415
lmao

have you played literally any rpg before

floating fish is standard m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 10:40:49 No.29329496 Report

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>>29327871
>die
wew mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 10:41:49 No.29329510 Report

Quoted By: >>29330367 >>29330474

>>29329459
Give me 5 examples, faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 10:42:31 No.29329516 Report

Quoted By: >>29329585 >>29329614 >>29331096

Does this happen in the anime? I don't watch it anything close to frequently enough to have come across it. What if they're in the middle of a city and someone sends out a fish Pokemon? Does it float? Or do the writers just avoid it?

Seem to remember Geodude floating... but I guess you could pull some magnetic rock explanation out of you ass for that one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 10:43:59 No.29329535 Report

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>>29327441
>a chinese dragon is ok
>a bigger chinese dragon makes me le cringe all the way to /r/cringeworthy

The state of sinninfetus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 10:49:01 No.29329585 Report

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>>29329516
Fish Pokemon are rare in the anime, usually they're only fought near water. If they aren't they fight on the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 10:50:47 No.29329599 Report

Quoted By: >>29329755

>>29327461

If land pokemon can stand on the ground, why can't they put the fish on the ground too? They did it to Magikarp (even though it's just flopping around) no reason why they couldn't make other fish like Pokemon bounce up and down off the ground instead of floating in the air.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 10:52:16 No.29329614 Report

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>>29329516
People only use fish mons when there is water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 10:52:40 No.29329617 Report

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>>29327415
It used to bother me a lot and did take me away from the games, but after a while i got used to it since I'm not a faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 11:08:14 No.29329755 Report

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>>29329599
This is a possible solution for the smaller fishes like finneon or magikarp. It would be understandable for them to hop around hopelessly whenever they are thrown out of the water.

But think about the design of things like school wishiwashi, seaking, etc. It would be a lot more distracting to have all these big fishes constantly jumping for air than having them just float in the screen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 11:15:08 No.29329819 Report

Quoted By: >>29330460

>>29327415

They should make all waterpokemon who cant function on land be exclusive to marine battle kinda like the opposite of flying pokemon Because they can join both flying and normal battle, while water pokestop that cant stand can Only join marine battles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 11:25:33 No.29329905 Report

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>>29327822
Magikarps is surely to make it look more pathetic as it just flops about. Which is amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 11:45:09 No.29330090 Report

Quoted By: >>29330626 >>29330906 >>29332030 >>29333991

>>29327449
Make them not float but have a battlefield allowing water?

I mean this is not a difficult concept. The problem is not the concept or even the coding. It's Game Freak and its incredible incompetence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 11:47:22 No.29330112 Report

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>>29327490
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 11:48:33 No.29330122 Report

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>there are literlly children itt who've never seen floating fish in an rpg before

what the fuck is happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:09:09 No.29330307 Report

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I think of the games as more of a rough idea of what's happening on your adventure and the rest is left up to imagination. In the forrest and send out a water pokemon? In my mind there was a lake or some small body of water around. Surfing in the middle of the ocean and send out a land lubbing pokemon? It fights off the back of the pokemon you're surfing on or there's convenient ocean debri around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:14:46 No.29330367 Report

Quoted By: >>29330409 >>29330474

>>29329510
Dragon Quest
Final Fantasy
Pokemon
Tales of
Dark Cloud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:17:24 No.29330409 Report

Quoted By: >>29330474 >>29331876

>>29330367
Give me four more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:23:48 No.29330460 Report

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>>29329819
Fuck this idea in particular. Unless you want maps to be 90%water enjoy not having many water types until 50% though the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:25:33 No.29330474 Report

Quoted By:

>>29329510
>>29330409
>>29330367
Megaten does this
Digimon games did it too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:33:32 No.29330566 Report

Quoted By: >>29330851

Has there ever been an ingame explanation to why the games are so shit?

Does it take anyone else out of the immersion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:38:30 No.29330626 Report

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>>29330090
>anyone you want to battle needs to be next to a pond because I decree it!
>this is surely more logical and less limiting than just handwaving it!

Speaking of incredible incompetence...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:58:31 No.29330851 Report

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>>29330566
Gen 4 mentions that the Sinnoh region used to be dogfuckers, so that explains why those games are the shittiest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:04:16 No.29330906 Report

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>>29330090
>battling on land
>send out water pokemon that magically and simultaneously turns ground beneath it into a pond
>"this is much better than floating and totally allows for muh immersion"

it's literally pokemon on a ds, there is no fucking immersion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:20:09 No.29331096 Report

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>>29329516
I remember geodude just hopping around in the sunken cruise episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:27:01 No.29331176 Report

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>autism thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:30:56 No.29331215 Report

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>>29327490
maybe they just magically use the humidity in the air like waterbenders or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 14:21:33 No.29331876 Report

Quoted By:

>>29330409
Xenoblade
SMT
Star Ocean
Atelier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 14:25:13 No.29331924 Report

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>>29327441
Its not a shrimp. It's a windsock, retard. That's literally why it's flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 14:32:04 No.29332011 Report

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>>29327441
But the fact owning ONE Wishiwishi and using it at the top of a mountain kms away from the seashore still allows you to use the school form doesnt ruin your immersion?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 14:33:54 No.29332030 Report

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>>29327449
>>29330090
Don't even need water
Just put them on the soil like in the fucking anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 15:06:18 No.29332553 Report

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>>29327415

Game-mechanics/Game-play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 16:14:54 No.29333734 Report

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>>29327415
you have your answer now, faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FskTlUZyF_A

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 16:21:05 No.29333867 Report

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>Only in game fish to not swim levitate is fucking Magikcarp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 16:26:17 No.29333991 Report

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>>29327415
It's a gameplay compromise. The only alternative would have them on the ground and barely move, but then you'd complain about lazy animations.

>>29330090
Because spawning a lake out of nowhere everywhere you go makes more sense?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 16:30:55 No.29334095 Report

Quoted By: >>29335039

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 16:56:00 No.29334597 Report

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>>29327832
>comparing water gun/flame thrower qith motherfucking surf
Do us a favour and kys

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 17:07:46 No.29334852 Report

Quoted By:

>>29327415
> Immersion

I see what you did there, OP.

Farts

Farts Fri 21 Oct 2016 17:11:34 No.29334934 Report

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I always had a hard time seeing Goldeen just float above the ground but then I think there honestly probably isn't a better way to portray them in battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 17:16:32 No.29335039 Report

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>>29334095
Look at this shit. Not only floating but TWO SEPARATE SHADOWS.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 17:47:05 No.29335604 Report

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>>29327415
>immersion

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