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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 06:59:32 No.29327430 View View Reply Original Report

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Why does the Battle Maison exist?

Who enjoys AI that scan your party and put parties together specifically to fuck you?

Why is every enemy team a stall team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:05:11 No.29327487 Report

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>>29327430
artificial difficulty desu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:06:10 No.29327501 Report

Quoted By: >>29327529 >>29330465

>>29327430

It has cute waifus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:06:55 No.29327508 Report

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>>29327430

I dunno

everyone seemed to like it when it was the Battle Frontier and you had all of that on top of a bunch of other bullshit limitations

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:08:47 No.29327529 Report

Quoted By: >>29327736

>>29327501
The yellow one reminds me of Pinkie Pie from My Little Pony!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:08:51 No.29327530 Report

Quoted By: >>29327577

because postgamefags are autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:12:56 No.29327577 Report

Quoted By: >>29327628

>>29327530
This.
>"The Battle Frontier was actually challenging, the Maison is too easily exploited!"
>"The Maison fucking cheats! I used a No Guard Ninjask with Sheer Cold to get through it!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:15:51 No.29327607 Report

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>>29327508
Yeah I hated the battle frontier. I had fun in the battle pike until every team started being status effect centric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:15:57 No.29327609 Report

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It's nice to be able to fight a variety of actually competent teams at fair levels without having to play with someone else. Of course though, like everything competitive in these games, it only really became accessible with XY unless you're a super autist.

And Battle Facilities pull from pools of pre-made teams, it doesn't make them on the fly. So if you're getting perfectly countered or even checked, your team probably needs work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:16:56 No.29327617 Report

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>>29327430

How shitty do you have to be to not be able to beat the Maison?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:17:09 No.29327620 Report

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>>29327430
>>29327508
I will never understand people's obsessions fighting vs the cheating AI. The Battle Frontier and that stupid ass train in B&W as well taking the cake.
Hell, the 100 trainer battle in Collosiem was already aggravating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:17:46 No.29327628 Report

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>>29327577
They don't want the Battle Frontier for the challenge, they want it for the dumb little gimmicks that get old in less than a few hours.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:20:06 No.29327655 Report

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>>29327617
Ah, here they come.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:20:10 No.29327657 Report

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>>29327617
>I looked up a guide and followed it

wow impressive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:20:10 No.29327658 Report

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>>29327628
>not liking the gimmicks to spice things up some on occasion

Don't get how people hate the Maison though yet praise the Tower and Subway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:21:12 No.29327669 Report

Quoted By: >>29327761

Battle Subway had cheating AI and rigged RNG too.
Worse yet, unless you're a fujoshit all you got were two faggots instead of waifus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:23:53 No.29327701 Report

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>>29327617
This
Literally all you have to do is use PKHeX to get a Contrary Mega Blaziken with Dragon Ascent, V-create, and Close Combat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:27:37 No.29327717 Report

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>>29327430
>AI that scan your party and put parties together specifically to fuck you?
I hate to tell you, anon, but they don't do that. Your team is just shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:27:51 No.29327718 Report

Quoted By: >>29327743

>>29327430
>Send in Greninja
>Win all trophies

Wow that was so hard!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:27:53 No.29327719 Report

Quoted By: >>29327806

>>29327658
I like the gimmicks but not the difficulty.
The enemy should not know what pokemon you have and tailor a team fit to stall you for an hour.
That's how you kill fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:28:56 No.29327727 Report

Quoted By: >>29327835

>>29327717
Then why did I face the exact same Wheezing four battles in a row? Why is it the only pokemon that was close to fucking my party via draining of PP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:29:13 No.29327728 Report

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>>29327620
Some people enjoy a challenge, anon.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:30:40 No.29327736 Report

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>>29327529

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:31:17 No.29327743 Report

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>>29327718
>Priority moves.
>Stall pokemon.
>Quick powder.
>Bright powder.
>One hit kill moves.
>RNGesus frowning upon you.
You're right, it fucking is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:31:27 No.29327745 Report

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This is now a Chatelaine thread. Posting best girl

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:32:28 No.29327761 Report

Quoted By: >>29327779 >>29327833

>>29327669
It did? I knew there was something suspicious, they always brought teams with types to counter mine, until I brought a scarf Lucario with a good coverage movepool.

Also what is up with other retards talking that way about Battle Frontier? It didn't have artificial difficulty where teams adjusted to yours so stop talking out of your ASS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:34:17 No.29327779 Report

Quoted By: >>29327810

>>29327761
You have no idea. Pokemon postgame is like the devil's work.
Gamefreak knows how easy the main game is. The postgame is their way of saying "this is what you asked for."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:37:12 No.29327806 Report

Quoted By: >>29327861

>>29327719
But that doesn't happen. They use pre-made teams and randomly throw them at you. The worst is maybe it intentionally tosses a team at you that will counter yours if you don't rotate them occasionally, but I'm pretty sure there's no actual code for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:37:43 No.29327810 Report

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>>29327779
Welp I'm in for a challenge then. I got to the fifth streak of one of the super trains but lost right at the beginning, only took it to challenge the subway masters though. So then I take it as gen 4 had the last good battle facilities without rigged AI?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:39:22 No.29327828 Report

Quoted By: >>29327859

>>29327430
>Why does the Battle Maison exist?
To have fun without having to rely on random people.
>Who enjoys AI that scan your party and put parties together specifically to fuck you?
Who enjoys challengless games?
>Why is every enemy team a stall team?
Why haven't you found a way to beat their strategy yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:39:46 No.29327833 Report

Quoted By: >>29327870

>>29327761
They don't. They just have premade teams that usually revolve around a gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:40:06 No.29327835 Report

Quoted By: >>29327839

>>29327727
RNG is a bitch. Sometimes it'll take three hundred Ultra Balls to catch a legend. Sometimes it'll take one regular Poke Ball with otherwise the same conditions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:41:02 No.29327839 Report

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>>29327835
Where's my RNG O-Power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:42:01 No.29327846 Report

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>>29327743
>Not having ways to deal with those things
>Wah I'm ill-prepared so I'm going to complain they're too hard!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:43:12 No.29327859 Report

Quoted By: >>29327902 >>29327937

>>29327828
>>29327846
>wtf you can't perfectly counter every possible setup that could be thrown at you? literally git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:43:18 No.29327861 Report

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>>29327806

Tell that to the AI that send out a Chople Berry Soundproof Boffullant against my Exploud. No one just "uses" that, the AI blatantly counterpicks your team once you get a good streak going.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:43:41 No.29327867 Report

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>>29327430
I brought in a Char Y to boost Maxie's Camerupt and a Gastrodon and I had the opp's quick claw activate twice in a row on my first playthrough and on my second playthrough I missed killing a Sceptile twice and the other Pokemon KO'd Charizard and Sceptile OHKO'd Gastro.

I've had much better luck in multis with an M-Latios/Aegislash combo though.

I think the artificial difficulty exists because Maison gives out BP like candy.

Shame that Maison doesn't have Factory - that formats enormously fun and Pyramid - the best format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:43:48 No.29327870 Report

Quoted By: >>29327917

>>29327833
The Pokemon all have several sets, but the game builds a team out of the Pokemon it believes can counter your own team as effectively as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:46:54 No.29327891 Report

Quoted By: >>29327991 >>29328006

>>29327717

When the autists on Smogon that go for 2000+ win streaks say that the AI tries to the best of it's ability to counterbuild you (and literally every since one of these people have said this), it's not just "RNG".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:47:48 No.29327902 Report

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>>29327859
I mean yeah. They have access to almost every strategy and play-style available shifted in their favor. Why wouldn't you necessarily need to employ perfect counters if you weren't planning on losing at some point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:48:14 No.29327904 Report

Quoted By: >>29331316

Battle Maison sucks because it's too tedious in my opinion. There's no need to have 20 battles and then 50 whole battles. Especially because they all start off with matches against pidgeys and other first stage pokemon. There's nothing fun about beating pidgeys it's just tedious and boring doing 20 and then 50 matches of Maison. I think it should just be like 10, all really hard matches and that's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:49:29 No.29327915 Report

Quoted By: >>29327960

I tried to troll the maison with a Wonder Guard Eelektross and air Balloon, thinking "haha try to kill me"

Then on fight 32 I faced a Mold Breaker Pinsir with Guillotine who won over me...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:49:43 No.29327917 Report

Quoted By: >>29327934 >>29327938 >>29327992

>>29327870
That's literally no fun. It's also ridiculously contradictive because main game is like 'okay, your opponent is using X as their next pokemon, do you wanna keep fighting or do you wanna send some other pokemon to screw them over' and then postgame is like 'yeah no fuck you we're using your team to build ours and counter yours in the best way possible nothing you can do about it lol'

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:51:49 No.29327932 Report

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>>29327861
RNG is a bitch. But if thinking the game is actively trying to cheat will make you feel better about bad luck, well enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:51:59 No.29327933 Report

Quoted By: >>29328148

It's pretty boring but I mean, what would be a more enjoyable way to earn BP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:51:59 No.29327934 Report

Quoted By: >>29327986

>>29327917
>having it on switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:52:21 No.29327937 Report

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>>29327859
Yeah because I and others have without relying on cheats. It's straightforward to get at least 50 wins in each Super format, and you could push it to well over 100 if you care enough to keep going. Stop being such a shitter. There are so many strategies and team composition approaches you can employ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:52:23 No.29327938 Report

Quoted By: >>29327986

>>29327917
>Not playing on set
It's like you're trying to be a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:52:28 No.29327939 Report

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Battle Maison is super easy. You just suck. It's boring because how easy it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:54:26 No.29327956 Report

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If the game had the Battle Maison's RNG for story mode, people will bitch it will be too hard when all you need is a dragon/steel/bulky water core for your team

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:54:59 No.29327960 Report

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>>29327915
Your fault, you should have predicted that they would do that by having a Sturdy Shedinja in reserve.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:56:49 No.29327972 Report

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This thread is shit, post Caley

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:58:29 No.29327986 Report

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>>29327934
>>29327938
Faggots I play on set, but the option's still there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:58:48 No.29327991 Report

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>>29327891
none of the autists claim this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 07:58:51 No.29327992 Report

Quoted By: >>29328014

>>29327917
They're just preparing kids the metagame once you think your particular team is completely unstoppable by going "somewhere out there, there are teams that are specifically intended to push your shit in, and you better be ready for it faget"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:01:16 No.29328006 Report

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>>29327891
>But all these people say they totally do that. Just trust me
Nice proofs, fgt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:01:47 No.29328014 Report

Quoted By: >>29328020 >>29328064

>>29327992
why must nintendo use my precious postgame to tell me to play the shitty way they want me to

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:02:50 No.29328020 Report

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>>29328014
*gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:05:44 No.29328057 Report

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The Battle Frontier had RNG hax, but getting completely countered in teambuilding is pretty okay as well. At least the BF had variety.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:06:42 No.29328064 Report

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>>29328014
Because what kinda of loser doesn't want to play video games with other people, and would instead prefer to continue playing by themselves for hours after the game is over because they WANT to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 08:14:56 No.29328148 Report

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>>29327933
Something that is actually fun to do with a post game.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:24:27 No.29330465 Report

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>>29327501
The Chatelaines need more love.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:28:03 No.29330501 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:32:32 No.29330556 Report

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>>29327430
>"WWAAAAAH I CANT HANDLE A CHALLENGE!"

Your kind of people are why ORAS sucked. So what if the AI scans your team and looks to exploit youre weaknesses, YOU do it all the time and dont even realize it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:33:25 No.29330564 Report

Quoted By: >>29330813

Okay, why is there even a debate over the extent to which the computer builds teams to counter you? Shouldn't that be in the game's coding?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:34:45 No.29330581 Report

Quoted By: >>29330595

>>29327628
How can the Battle Factory get old?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:35:46 No.29330595 Report

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>>29330581
If you're a dumbass who always loses, it probably did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:40:26 No.29330652 Report

Quoted By: >>29330718 >>29331222 >>29331372

>>29327728
>Enemy used sheer cold!
>One-hit KO!
>Enemy used sheer cold!
>One-hit KO!
>Enemy used sheer cold!
>One-hit KO!
>NPC says some sassy shit about being a good trainer

My all-time favorite challenge right there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:45:58 No.29330718 Report

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>>29330652
Truant Durant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:49:53 No.29330766 Report

Quoted By: >>29330844

>Gen VI is too easy! We hate Gen VI!
>The Battle Maison is too hard! We hate Gen VI!

/vp/ is such a shithole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:54:17 No.29330813 Report

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>>29330564
The way it works is that the Maison keeps track of which pokemon you had an easy time with, and decreases their weighting in the team generation.

They don't "scan your team" or anything, they just tend not to reuse stuff you had no trouble with, which means you'll eventually see a lot of repeats of the stuff you do have trouble with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 12:57:35 No.29330844 Report

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>>29330766
>/vp/ is one person
The people complaining about Maison difficulty would complain about literally any other battle facility. Retards who can't build a decent team to save themselves.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:01:40 No.29330884 Report

Quoted By: >>29330911 >>29331236 >>29331278 >>29333036

>>29327430
>Be me
>Be ribbon fag
>Can't get super battle ribbon because the maison cheats/I'm trash
>Tfw I can't get my last possible ribbon for my Kalos born six IV shiny lopunny

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:04:42 No.29330911 Report

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>>29330884
Just inject it :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:31:46 No.29331222 Report

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>>29330652
this isn't even all that common. I ran No Guard Machamp and only ever encountered OHKO from the enemy and they used it on my Milotic

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:32:47 No.29331236 Report

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>>29330884
that's what you get for using Trapunny, in pink shiny, too, no less

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:36:11 No.29331278 Report

Quoted By: >>29331310

>>29330884
>male Lopunny
I hope you never succeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:38:07 No.29331310 Report

Quoted By: >>29331324 >>29331348

>>29331278
>He doesn't like traps

Why are you on 4chan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:38:54 No.29331316 Report

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>>29327430
>>29327904
This is why PWT was the only good battle facility.
Tournament style, only three battles, all reasonably challenging, no "20+ battles against shitmons warmup", all against characters you actually care about.

I wish they did something like that again. You can even have all the neat little battle styles and restrictions the Frontier had.
Just please end this 50+ streak bullshit. It's not even hard, it's boring as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:39:32 No.29331324 Report

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>>29331310
fag

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:41:57 No.29331348 Report

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>>29331310
Get help.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:43:48 No.29331372 Report

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>>29330652
>Enemies quick claw let it go first!
>Enemies quick claw let it go first!
>Enemies quick claw let it go first!

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:53:31 No.29331478 Report

Quoted By: >>29331545

>pokemon
>either it's too piss easy
>or brutally bullshit/unfair
Can't we just get a balance already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 13:59:00 No.29331545 Report

Quoted By: >>29331613

>>29331478
You just explained all Mario Kart games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 14:01:23 No.29331579 Report

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The only good post game facility has been the PWT, the rest were hax filled garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 14:03:33 No.29331613 Report

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>>29331545
I heard Mario Kart 8's 150cc/Mirror Mide AI wasn't too bad (no rubberband bullshit).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 15:38:22 No.29333036 Report

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>>29330884
>get good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Oct 2016 15:41:09 No.29333083 Report

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Gen 6 instead of making good things

They just used hot girls to cover it up the shit

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>Shauna
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