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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 12:59:15 No.29353890 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29353919 >>29353924 >>29353966 >>29354260 >>29354419 >>29354581 >>29363191 >>29363348

Defend this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:00:28 No.29353907 Report

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95.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:01:23 No.29353919 Report

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>>29353890
>dragon/water
>dragon dance
>a monster in rain
>or fuck you up with sniper crit shenanigans
flygon is the one that actually got the rough deal

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:01:57 No.29353924 Report

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>>29353890
Poliwrath says hello

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:02:04 No.29353929 Report

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It was good in Gen 2, but not so much these days. Still not completely useless or NU material, though, it got some nice moves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:03:50 No.29353947 Report

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>>29353919
>gen 6 rain

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:05:31 No.29353966 Report

Quoted By: >>29354054

>>29353890
Only if you defend these

Kingdra ain't even that bad, not everything can be top tier OU. These however are unforgivable

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:07:44 No.29353991 Report

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>the average pokemon BST of gen 2 is 466

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:12:49 No.29354054 Report

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>>29353966
Poliwrath, Golduck, and Dewgong? Sorry anon but I can't defend them, they're all shit tier.

I mean fuck, Dewgong was a shittier version of Lapras since the beginning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:14:12 No.29354075 Report

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>>29353991
Does this include unevolved mons?
It's even lower for gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:18:24 No.29354151 Report

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>>29354075
With both evolved and unevolved, gen 2's average BST is lower than gen 1's.
Gen 2 has the lowest average BST of any gen.
Not surprising considering the gen is 90% single stage shitmons.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:20:01 No.29354179 Report

Quoted By: >>29354211 >>29354247 >>29354273 >>29355425 >>29357017 >>29362700

Defend this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:21:03 No.29354193 Report

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>>29354151
That doesn't sound right, the highest BST in gen 1 was 590 with the next highest being 500

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:21:23 No.29354199 Report

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>>29354151
Gen 2 is basically compilation of rejected mons that got retconned in Gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:22:15 No.29354211 Report

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>>29354179
Ledian?
I can't
most of gen 2 is shitmons even GF forgot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:22:52 No.29354222 Report

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>>29354193
We're talking averages.
Gen 2 was full of abortions like ariados, qwilfish and ledian which had smaller BSTs than your penis.
Gen 1: 480.09
Gen 2: 472.02
Gen 3: 477.62
Gen 4: 521.29
Gen 5: 516.7
Gen 6: 524.91

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:22:57 No.29354224 Report

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>>29353924
Use him in tripples, senpai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:23:35 No.29354229 Report

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>>29354151
>scizor
>ttar
>heracross
>skarmory
>blissey
>crobat
>azumarill

gen2 ain't doing too bad now. plus they realised how much they fucked up in gen 4 and made stuff like weavile, mamoswine, gliscor

but yea it was awful at the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:24:15 No.29354240 Report

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Speaking of which, why do Stantler even exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:24:22 No.29354243 Report

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>>29354222
>smaller BSTs than your penis.
That's pretty fucking small, anon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:24:58 No.29354247 Report

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>>29354179

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:24:58 No.29354248 Report

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>>29354229
Both Scizor and Heracross weren't usable until gen 4.
Azumarill was terrible until gen 6.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:25:37 No.29354258 Report

Quoted By: >>29354280 >>29354300 >>29354307 >>29354328 >>29360979 >>29361061

LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:25:52 No.29354260 Report

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>>29353890
> had one weakness in gen2
> said weakness had next to no distribution
> later on its only other weakness is fairy
> its faster than basically every fairy and learns Flash Cannon
Kingdra's p good for a non-pseudo dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:26:12 No.29354267 Report

Quoted By: >>29354319

>>29354151
Yeah, but then Gen II has a bunch of mons in OU, like T-Tar, Azu, Raikou, Scizor, Skarmory, and formerly Blissey and Forretress. So stick your average BSTs up your ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:26:33 No.29354273 Report

Quoted By: >>29354321 >>29359985 >>29362023 >>29362275 >>29363511

>>29354179
Ledian is definitely the shittest shitmon of all time. Like it's not even usable in-game. How do you even make something that isn't usable in-game? You can't even excuse it as a jokemon like Luvdisc or Unown

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:26:56 No.29354280 Report

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>>29354258
Smogonbird?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:27:36 No.29354288 Report

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>>29353947
>He still can't use rain without gen 5 easy mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:27:40 No.29354291 Report

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>>29354229
> gen4 saved Sneasel from being a worthless shitmon
wtf I love gen4 now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:28:02 No.29354300 Report

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>>29354258
HA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:28:27 No.29354306 Report

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>>29354280
it's swellow

who really insn't that bad compared to stuff like fearow, unfezant, and noctowl. guts facade HURTS yo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:28:30 No.29354307 Report

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>>29354258
Oh Swellow, you poor,poor thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:29:37 No.29354316 Report

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>>29354280
Swellow, me thinks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:29:52 No.29354319 Report

Quoted By: >>29354393

>>29354267
A lot of those were incredibly mediocre until gen 4 movepool additions saved them.
T-Tar and Skarm are the only consistently OU gen 2 mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:29:55 No.29354321 Report

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>>29354273
> bug/flying
> highest stat is defensive
jesus h balls how did gf fuck up this badly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:30:34 No.29354328 Report

Quoted By: >>29354360

>>29354258
That stat spread is pretty good by itself, just the total is too low and the mon would rather be a special attacker or at least have some physical coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:30:50 No.29354333 Report

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>>29354248
you're not wrong about scizor and azu, but wtf are you on about with hera? it was ok in gen 2 and fucking great in gen 3, in fact gen 4 was the first time it dropped out of ou

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:30:55 No.29354334 Report

Quoted By: >>29354429 >>29354458 >>29354485 >>29354734 >>29355069 >>29359874

>even the gen 2 cover legendaries are shit in ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:32:05 No.29354354 Report

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>>29354333
Mate, I want you to look at Heracross's gen 2 movepool and tell me that with a straight face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:32:18 No.29354359 Report

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29354334
0/10 no (U) 4U

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:32:24 No.29354360 Report

Quoted By: >>29354501

>>29354328
>That stat spread is pretty good by itself
It gets ohko'd by most priority move users

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:33:18 No.29354376 Report

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>>29354222
There were literally three pokemon of 500 or over in gen 1, I call bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:34:21 No.29354393 Report

Quoted By: >>29360892 >>29361055

>>29354319
Wait, only two consistent OU mons? God, that sounds like another gen, one with 151 mons, one with only Gengar and Starmie sticking around? God, I'm really trying here. I don't know what Gen I''m thinking of though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:35:30 No.29354411 Report

Quoted By: >>29354484

>>29354376
We're talking about updated BSTs, not the original BSTs before the special split.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:35:54 No.29354414 Report

Quoted By: >>29354469 >>29354543 >>29354667 >>29359892

dat stat distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:36:13 No.29354419 Report

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>>29353890
Still better than Glalie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:36:22 No.29354422 Report

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>>29354376
Anon, please don't be this stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:36:30 No.29354426 Report

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252+ SpA Choice Specs Unown Hidden Power Rock vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Ledian: 200-236 (63.6 - 75.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:36:39 No.29354429 Report

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>>29354334
Wasnt Ho oh decent in ubers with the help of magic bounce/defog?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:36:45 No.29354431 Report

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>>29354376
thats before special split dude, there's at least 20 pokemon over 500 BST in gen 1 after the special split

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:37:33 No.29354439 Report

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>>29354376
>starters
>poliwrath
>machamp
>dragonite
>mozart
>mew and two
>arcanine
>ninetales
>cloyster
>gengar
>snorlax
>tentacruel
>aerodactyl
>exeggutor
>starmie
>scyther
>pinsir
>lapras
>gyarados
>eevees
>muk
>rapidash
Huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:37:52 No.29354444 Report

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>>29354300
Poor Pelipper. At least it's a great HM slave

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:37:56 No.29354447 Report

Quoted By: >>29354472

>>29354354
>endure
>reversal
>megahorn
>earthquake
done

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:38:14 No.29354450 Report

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>>29354306
Thanks for reminding me how shitty Fearow is. I hoped to use one in SM, but unless it was given Sniper as a regular ability and maybe some better moves, it's going to be a dead weight. FUCK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:38:28 No.29354458 Report

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>>29354334
>>29354429

| 8 | Ho-Oh | 16.27629% | 83634 | 6.496% | 55549 | 6.585% |

yea, so shit in ubers lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:39:30 No.29354469 Report

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>>29354414
> there are still no physical fire moves that dont cause flareon to kill itself with its use
Forever worst eevee despite being cute and fluffy ;_;7

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:39:40 No.29354472 Report

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>>29354447
>using reversal when your name isn't Dugtrio or Sawk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:40:52 No.29354484 Report

Quoted By: >>29354524

>>29354411
There is a very good reason pre-split stats should be used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:41:00 No.29354485 Report

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>>29354334
m8 ho-oh is one of the most terrifying pokemon in the game, 4x SR weakness and low speed are the only things keeping it in check and it's still a monster

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:41:01 No.29354486 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:41:44 No.29354501 Report

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>>29354360
So does Weavile, but that doesn't stop it from being a great revenge killer and holepuncher in one. Swellow literally only needs +10 in HP and Defense to survive all priority attacks up to Sharp Beak Jolly Talonflame's Brave Bird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:42:04 No.29354506 Report

Quoted By: >>29354559

>>29354472
in gen two, yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:42:19 No.29354509 Report

Quoted By: >>29354559

>>29354472
>dugtrio or sawk
>gen 2
stop posting anytime
and before you say "HURRR DUGTRIO IS GEN 1 THOUGH", it didn't get reversal in gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:42:43 No.29354516 Report

Quoted By: >>29354592 >>29355615

>>29354486
I actually don't recognise this

looks like Cacturne but even worse. Shiftry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:43:00 No.29354524 Report

Quoted By: >>29354540

>>29354484

It's not even a fair comparison if you're using pre-split stats for one gen while using post-split for every other gen.
There is absolutely no reason to use pre-split stats.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:43:14 No.29354525 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:44:13 No.29354540 Report

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>>29354524
Yes there is, it makes Johto look less shitty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:44:18 No.29354543 Report

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>>29354414
20 years on, still one of the most retarded of all time

is 110 SpD the troll amount? Ledian has it too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:44:45 No.29354550 Report

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>>29354525
It's quite good in RU, son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:45:02 No.29354552 Report

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>>29354525
That's not bad, though. Druddigon is perfectly serviceable with the tools it was given.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:45:31 No.29354559 Report

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>>29354506
>>29354509
Heracross had to use reversal because it was the only fighting move it learned in gen 2 outside of fucking rock smash and counter.
That doesn't mean it's a good move for it then or now.
Heracross had a borderline nonexistent movepool in gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:46:34 No.29354574 Report

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>>29354552
the poor bastard can barely even use sheer force

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:47:12 No.29354581 Report

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>>29353890
>has access to a goo special move pool
>physical move pool is limite to waterfall and outrage
>learns dragon drance

Poor Flygon, so close to being usable, only to be shit on at every turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:47:33 No.29354586 Report

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>>29354525
>90 base Def and SDef
>can have Rough Skin
It's pretty good discount Garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:48:17 No.29354592 Report

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>>29354516
>Cacturne
>Shiftry
You can tell by the colour of the box and the colour of the border that it's a mono-Poison type.
For gen 3, the only possibilities are Swalot and Seviper.

Swalot has 9 BST more, but it's honestly even worse than Seviper.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:48:38 No.29354597 Report

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:49:08 No.29354605 Report

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>>29354543
You might be on to something.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:49:19 No.29354610 Report

Quoted By: >>29354662 >>29354697 >>29354761

>the highest HP stat of any bug type is 85

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:49:34 No.29354612 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:49:47 No.29354617 Report

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>>29354222
>powercreep isn't real they said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:50:31 No.29354625 Report

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>>29354612
Hypno?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:51:35 No.29354637 Report

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>>29354625
look at the colors
it's a poison type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:51:45 No.29354639 Report

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>>29354605
Grumpig, one of the most forgettable mons out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:51:53 No.29354642 Report

Quoted By: >>29354709

Power Creep happens because of updated movepools and stat distribution. Not specifically BST.
The only reason some gens have much higher average BST is because later gens have a lot more legendaries.
Earlier gens were just terrible at distributing stats properly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:52:01 No.29354646 Report

Quoted By: >>29354705

>>29354612
Swalot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:53:28 No.29354662 Report

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>>29354610
Is that Yanmega or Genesect?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:53:36 No.29354665 Report

Quoted By: >>29354706 >>29354707 >>29354708 >>29357054 >>29361146

>tfw these are my bro's stats
wtf gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:53:40 No.29354667 Report

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>>29354414
If they make a non recoil physical fire move that non kicking and punching pokemon can learn I'd slap an assault vest on this little fucker and try to make it's dreams come true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:55:01 No.29354690 Report

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>>29354222
Gen 4 had a bunch of cross-evos.
Gen 5 had a shitton of legendaries.
Gen 6 had Megas.
Gen 7 is going to depend if UB's BST.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:55:29 No.29354697 Report

Quoted By: >>29354717 >>29355205 >>29357354

>>29354610
Not anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:55:35 No.29354700 Report

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>>29353991
Johto is for Comfy___, not competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:55:38 No.29354701 Report

Quoted By: >>29354754 >>29362030

>>29354525
>assault vest druddigon with sheer force

Why does it have so few moves to abuse it's ability with? I feel like GF give them an ability based on the pokemon without looking at the movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:56:00 No.29354705 Report

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>>29354646
ding ding ding
he is overshadowed by NFE Grass types as a defensive mon in the lowest tier possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:56:04 No.29354706 Report

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>>29354665
Chimecho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:56:08 No.29354707 Report

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>>29354665
>he likes Mr Mime
You deserve to suffer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:56:09 No.29354708 Report

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>>29354665
Nigga 90 speed and 100 special attack with a serviceable defense ain't all bad

But yeah what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:56:14 No.29354709 Report

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>>29354642
More legendaries are not solely responsible for this >>29354222 leap

It's a 40-50 point average difference between early gens and more recent gens. You're right that improved distribution etc plays the biggest role, but the raw stat totals have increased as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:56:25 No.29354710 Report

Quoted By: >>29354724 >>29354731

I've got 99 problems but BST ain't one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:57:03 No.29354717 Report

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>>29354697
>using redditpod

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:57:48 No.29354724 Report

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>>29354710
>Literal box-art legends BST
>PU because of its ability
I don't know if I should laugh or cry

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:57:55 No.29354726 Report

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>>29354706
Lying bastard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:58:24 No.29354731 Report

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>>29354710
IDK if that's Slaking or Regigigas but Truant and Slow Start are definitely the worst idea for 'balancing' abilities of all time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:58:40 No.29354733 Report

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yes, I would like my defensive bug/flying pokemon to not have the stats it actually needs to actually do anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:58:42 No.29354734 Report

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>>29354334
>hi i'm in elo hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:58:53 No.29354739 Report

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>>29354726
this is Yanmega

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:58:55 No.29354740 Report

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hahahhaaha..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:59:21 No.29354746 Report

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>>29354605
Close enough right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:59:48 No.29354754 Report

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>>29354701
Aerodactyl gets Rock Head even though his only recoil move is Take Down, you tell me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:00:21 No.29354761 Report

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>>29354610
Lying bastard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:01:55 No.29354780 Report

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>>29354740
I-it's good with Bulk Up!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:02:00 No.29354783 Report

Quoted By: >>29354809 >>29354812 >>29354832

WHAT WENT WRONG

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:02:05 No.29354786 Report

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>>29354717
Is this the "Redditgahara" of /vp/?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:03:03 No.29354796 Report

Quoted By: >>29359763 >>29359802

>nice, so i'm gonna be like a physical version of chansey right?
>so what's my type guys?
>....guys?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:03:26 No.29354807 Report

Quoted By: >>29360653

>the pokemon with these great stats + GOODdragondance is garbage because he effectively has no ability and his movepool is so bad he has to use return as coverage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:03:28 No.29354809 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354783
Team preview

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:03:43 No.29354812 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354783
Weak movepool,no good boosting moves, and speed creep.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:03:49 No.29354814 Report

Quoted By: >>29355105 >>29359359

>not a single stat breaks the 100 mark

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:04:07 No.29354819 Report

Quoted By:

95 speed, shit defenses, low BP moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:04:17 No.29354824 Report

Quoted By: >>29354870

>>29354731
Screw you, Slow Start is a cool concept

Truant and Defeatist are the worst ones

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:04:29 No.29354829 Report

Quoted By: >>29354850 >>29354880 >>29354905

Try this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:04:53 No.29354832 Report

Quoted By: >>29354859

>>29354783
Even in DP you were shit, it was a running joke that you had no business being in OU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:05:39 No.29354844 Report

Quoted By: >>29354856 >>29354878

>>29354717
>tfw Wimpod will now forever be associated with Reddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:06:02 No.29354850 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354829
The greatest starter design ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:06:38 No.29354856 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354844
At least it isn't redditcanine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:06:44 No.29354859 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354832
b-but muh gyaravire!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:07:17 No.29354870 Report

Quoted By: >>29354997

>>29354824
>completely useless for 5 turns

nigga pls, it should seriously just half the speed like the name suggests, or last a lot less time

plus isn't he one of the only pokemon in the game that can't learn protect? fucking jokers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:07:41 No.29354878 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354844
Not really. Just dont take a meme banter too seriously

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:07:45 No.29354880 Report

Quoted By: >>29355004

>>29354829
>stats literally made for shell smash
>doesn't get it
loving every laugh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:09:22 No.29354905 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354829
>Have a Pokemon with a samurai theme
>Put emphasis on swords and hand to hand combat with his learnable moves
>Give it a higher special attack than physical
Awful.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:09:27 No.29354906 Report

Quoted By: >>29355181

Defend this garbage

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:09:43 No.29354912 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354717
>redditpod
Please end this stupid fucking meme, it doesn't even make any sense.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:11:04 No.29354927 Report

Quoted By: >>29359415

Half-arceus

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:11:24 No.29354932 Report

Quoted By:

>The happy sunflower has higher SpA than the angry treeyeti

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:11:47 No.29354936 Report

Quoted By: >>29354945 >>29354946 >>29354952 >>29354960 >>29355000 >>29355067 >>29355996 >>29362076 >>29362150 >>29362438

You have 10 seconds to name a single good ice type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:12:32 No.29354945 Report

Quoted By: >>29354988

>>29354936
weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:12:35 No.29354946 Report

Quoted By: >>29354988

>>29354936
Weavile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:13:10 No.29354952 Report

Quoted By: >>29354988

>>29354936
Kyurem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:13:35 No.29354960 Report

Quoted By: >>29354988

>>29354936
greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:14:04 No.29354966 Report

Quoted By: >>29355120

>>29354450
Fearow gets Drill Run, but doesn't Dodrio also get that in addition to being an all-around better bird?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:14:14 No.29354968 Report

Quoted By:

>prankster
>decent supportive movepool
>has ways of dealing direct damage without using offensive stats
>gets a huge boost to its attack anyways despite having a shit offensive movepool
>

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:15:01 No.29354988 Report

Quoted By: >>29355010 >>29355038 >>29355089 >>29362076

>>29354946
>>29354945
>>29354952
I said good
>>29354960
Literally dies to Skuntank

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:15:16 No.29354997 Report

Quoted By: >>29355033 >>29355078

>>29354870
>what is wide guard
>what is endure
>what is rest
>what is baton pass setup
Git gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:15:24 No.29355000 Report

Quoted By: >>29355089

>>29354936
Obamasnow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:15:41 No.29355004 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354880
>design literally associated with shells
>stats literally made for shell smash
>doesn't get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:15:57 No.29355010 Report

Quoted By: >>29355060

>>29354988
Yeah, Weavile is good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:16:57 No.29355033 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354997
lmao at this pathetically weak b8

2/10 made me respond

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:17:04 No.29355038 Report

Quoted By: >>29355090

>>29354988
>implying Kyurem is not good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:17:38 No.29355050 Report

Quoted By: >>29355324

>>29354224
he, he will be Ko'ed 3 times faster!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:18:07 No.29355060 Report

Quoted By: >>29355084 >>29355090

>>29355010
If it's so good then why is it used less than Crawdaunt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:18:23 No.29355066 Report

Quoted By: >>29355082 >>29355088

How the fuck do you turbo autists instantly recognize a pokemon just by its stat block alone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:18:27 No.29355067 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354936
Alolan Ninetales.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:18:38 No.29355069 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354334
t. fagstag user

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:18:59 No.29355076 Report

Quoted By: >>29355115

defend this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:19:04 No.29355078 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354997
>what is rest
Something it doesn't get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:19:11 No.29355082 Report

Quoted By: >>29355112

>>29355066
they fucking google the BST you fucking idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:19:26 No.29355084 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355060
because you don't play OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:19:55 No.29355088 Report

Quoted By: >>29355112

>>29355066
Type borders you retard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:19:58 No.29355089 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354988
>Weavile
>Kyurem
>not good
You probably think Mamoswine is not good either. Even >>29355000 is great if you know how to play it (mostly Doubles).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:20:02 No.29355090 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355038
kyurem is pretty awful in the only formats it's allowed in

>>29355060

| 20 | Weavile | 9.67884% | 574114 | 9.177% | 408800 | 8.885% |
| 59 | Crawdaunt | 2.40731% | 89405 | 1.429% | 64749 | 1.407% |

also crawdaunt isn't even bad

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk

DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:20:25 No.29355096 Report

Quoted By:

>70 Sp.A
>80 Sp. D
>Learn Rapid Spin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:20:52 No.29355105 Report

Quoted By: >>29355171

>>29354814
>Still UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:21:22 No.29355112 Report

Quoted By: >>29355141 >>29355165

>>29355082
That's a lot of effort to basically shitpost "but this move and this held item" and then go to the next one.

>>29355088
Definitely not enough information.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:21:38 No.29355115 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355076
Eviolite :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:21:46 No.29355120 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354966
I don't think Dodrio's in the Alola dex, anon. But that's besides the point, I just wanted to use Fearow since it's my favourite birdmon design and we're not getting a Steel/flying Pikipek evolution.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:22:29 No.29355137 Report

Quoted By: >>29355177 >>29356071 >>29356281 >>29361166

>can win a game with a single dragon dance
>too frail to ever pull it off
Guess the pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:22:41 No.29355141 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355112
>That's a lot of effort to basically shitpost
Welcome to the Internet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:24:03 No.29355165 Report

Quoted By: >>29355226

>>29355112
are you mentally ill it takes a fucking minute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:24:11 No.29355171 Report

Quoted By: >>29355244

>>29355105
Actually it's BL2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:24:33 No.29355177 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355137
Haxorus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:24:44 No.29355181 Report

Quoted By: >>29355374

>>29354906
Luvdisc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:26:18 No.29355205 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354697
stat is out already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:27:40 No.29355226 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355165
You can't even be bothered to punctuate and capitalize, and you expect someone else to type in all that shit just to know who to shitpost about?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:29:01 No.29355244 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355171

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:29:42 No.29355254 Report

Quoted By: >>29355270 >>29355274 >>29355292 >>29355340

Leave OU to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:30:54 No.29355270 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355254
Azu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:31:14 No.29355274 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355254
you could say with stats like that it has some huge power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:31:47 No.29355283 Report

Quoted By:

Fairly well rounded stats that give it various uses through EV/nature spread.

Albeit it probably won't stand up to the top tiers. It'll do well in whatever tier its in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:32:21 No.29355292 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355254
Dank

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:34:11 No.29355324 Report

Quoted By: >>29355373 >>29365049

>>29355050
>>29355050
Team him with greninja and politoed.
Have Swift swim and drizzle
Mat block-frost breath-belly drum
Guarantees to kill anything that isn't max Def and Hp Giratina.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:34:59 No.29355332 Report

Quoted By: >>29355418

>gets a good signature move
>gets one of the best boosting moves in the game
>gets the HIGHEST BP STAB move in the game with no drawbacks
can there be a more JUST Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:35:31 No.29355340 Report

Quoted By: >>29355568

>>29355254
It's effectively 520 tho, since it has the equivalent of 150 base attack...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:36:50 No.29355373 Report

Quoted By: >>29355493

>>29355324
>frost-breath

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:36:51 No.29355374 Report

Quoted By: >>29355394 >>29355504

>>29355181
Exactly, the shitmon with the lowest BST that can't evolve

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:38:05 No.29355394 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355374
And it's still better than Delibird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:39:24 No.29355418 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355332
At least it's got a niche to work with. A lot of stuff doesn't even get that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:39:43 No.29355425 Report

Quoted By: >>29355880

>>29354179
>35 Atk
>Iron Fist
I think there was supposed to be some kind of joke there, but the meaning of it is lost to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:44:33 No.29355493 Report

Quoted By: >>29365049

>>29355373
Damn, meant icy wind

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:45:04 No.29355504 Report

Quoted By: >>29355642

>>29355374
>that can't evolve
NEVER FORGET

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:45:37 No.29355522 Report

Quoted By: >>29355604

>Even if it had a mega with +200 BST, it wouldn't break 600

What a cruel joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:46:54 No.29355539 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354525
One day I pray that they get good moves to abuse sheer force with
Maybe gen 7...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:48:50 No.29355568 Report

Quoted By: >>29355609

>>29355340
Huge Power actually works off of the actual stat not the base stat so Azu really has about 130 attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:51:17 No.29355604 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355522
mega sableye says hi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:52:01 No.29355609 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355568
I know m8 and I'm right. Assuming 252 EVs and an Adamant nature:

Level 100 Rayquaza actual atk: 438
Level 100 Azumarill actual atk: 436

you can trust me, I'm an autist B^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:52:19 No.29355615 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354516
Seviper, one of Gen III's many cool pokemon with shit stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:54:14 No.29355642 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355504
No reason, Gamefreak
NO
REASON

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:09:19 No.29355880 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355425
The elemental punches were special in gen 3, GF just forgot it couldn't get them outside gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:17:49 No.29355996 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354936
Cloyster

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:22:34 No.29356071 Report

Quoted By: >>29356084

>>29355137
Whiscash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:23:24 No.29356084 Report

Quoted By: >>29356092 >>29361572

>>29356071
wew whiscash couldn't even sweep my floors after a dragon dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:23:54 No.29356092 Report

Quoted By:

>>29356084
Haxorus

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:34:25 No.29356237 Report

Quoted By: >>29356269 >>29356286

In the meantime, this is better than all of the pokemon mentioned in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:36:05 No.29356258 Report

Quoted By: >>29361579 >>29362743

>Lore implying God like powers
>Only 1 attack
>Almost anything can learn it
>Tons of forms same stats
>Unusable attack literally
>72 in attack stats so it needs an item to 2 shot
>48 in everything else
>One shot and out speed by NFE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:36:46 No.29356269 Report

Quoted By:

>>29356237
That's the great thing about being able to learn every move in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:37:28 No.29356281 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355137
Garchomp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:37:49 No.29356286 Report

Quoted By:

>>29356237
Smearagle, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:46:27 No.29356426 Report

Quoted By: >>29356666

>>29354472
Hitmonlee, it's endure set is miles better than the stupid fake out set meme that refuses to die.

Actually fuck both, just use CB reckless HJK that thing is retarded immediate power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 16:01:18 No.29356666 Report

Quoted By:

>>29356426
>choice band
>with that god awful speed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 16:14:18 No.29356845 Report

Quoted By: >>29359624

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 16:16:46 No.29356891 Report

Quoted By: >>29356947

Poor baby.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 16:20:27 No.29356946 Report

Quoted By: >>29359484

Defend this.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 22 Oct 2016 16:20:30 No.29356947 Report

Quoted By:

>>29356891
It's so cute! OwO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 16:23:55 No.29357017 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354179
It's ok Ledien, at least you have Ribombee with probbly the same stats and shitty ablitys ;-;

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 16:25:29 No.29357054 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354665
What is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 16:40:06 No.29357354 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354697
Looks like a bug type that could have exactly 85HP but I really hope it is at least 100.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 17:13:33 No.29357991 Report

Quoted By:

power trick this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 17:36:40 No.29358457 Report

Quoted By: >>29358636 >>29358700

>>29354222
why can't they just buff the stats of older pokemon?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 17:37:03 No.29358466 Report

Quoted By:

sad, sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 17:45:40 No.29358636 Report

Quoted By: >>29359490

>>29358457
They actually did a few times in Gen VI.

...by fucking only +10 to something I think on each one they bothered to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 17:50:03 No.29358700 Report

Quoted By:

>>29358457
There are hacks by Drayano60 that actually do this. They buff shitmon's stats, adjust typings, give new moves to make em usable ingame. It really feels like everything is viable, nothing has a clear advantage over another except for pseudos but that's understandable, its great

Now if only the maingames did this instead of '+10 to one stat for a few mons'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:23:21 No.29359359 Report

Quoted By: >>29359377

>>29354814
What is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:24:38 No.29359377 Report

Quoted By:

>>29359359
Venomoth

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:27:24 No.29359415 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354927
4 sunkerns = arceus
>The god of Pokemon is as strong as 4 sunflower seeds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:31:37 No.29359484 Report

Quoted By:

>>29356946
It'd be fine if defend order was a +2 each.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:31:50 No.29359490 Report

Quoted By: >>29359602

>>29358636
>raise BST from 385 to 395
Thanks GF, truly I am no longer a shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:38:46 No.29359602 Report

Quoted By:

>>29359490
At least you have quiver dance and compound eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:40:02 No.29359624 Report

Quoted By: >>29359693 >>29359799

>>29356845
Arcanine proves that great BST does not immediately mean OU. Reduce Sp Atk by 20, increase Speed and Attack by 10 each, give it Dragon Dance, and it will be a monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:43:55 No.29359693 Report

Quoted By: >>29359939

>>29359624
>give Arcanine Dragon Dance

oh fuck you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:46:57 No.29359737 Report

Quoted By: >>29359763 >>29359802

Defense this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:48:55 No.29359763 Report

Quoted By: >>29359781

>>29359737
>>29354796

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:49:38 No.29359781 Report

Quoted By:

>>29359763
My picture is better because it's bigger though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:50:34 No.29359799 Report

Quoted By: >>29359939

>>29359624
>Arcanine proves that great BST does not immediately mean OU. Reduce Sp Atk by 20, increase Speed and Attack by 10 each, give it Dragon Dance, and it will be a monster.
Retarded

And make it learn sacred fire. I'm sick of fire attacks with recoil

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:50:39 No.29359802 Report

Quoted By: >>29359849 >>29359880

>>29354796
>>29359737
>Charmander used Ember

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:53:55 No.29359849 Report

Quoted By:

>>29359802

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:54:55 No.29359874 Report

Quoted By: >>29359911 >>29360138

>>29354334
>trying this hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:55:16 No.29359880 Report

Quoted By:

>>29359802
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Charmander Ember vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Avalugg: 150-176 (38.1 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:55:57 No.29359892 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354414
the problem is lack of speed and high special attack for no reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:56:47 No.29359911 Report

Quoted By: >>29360800

>>29359874
>be Kyogre
>go from king of Ubers to meh
>meanwhile Groudon goes from shit to unparalleled
>all because of ORAS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:57:25 No.29359921 Report

Quoted By: >>29360162

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:58:58 No.29359939 Report

Quoted By:

>>29359693
It can learn Outrage and even Dragon Pulse, I don't see why giving it DD would be too farfedtch'd.

>>29359799
Nice non-argument fag

>make it learn sacred fire
>muh Entei
This will never happen. Just give it DD and rearrange its stats, it doesn't even use its special movepool anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:01:39 No.29359985 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354273
It's a special wall only needs toxic to play its roll... Try low tiers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:02:08 No.29359994 Report

Quoted By: >>29360035 >>29360052

>be an actual 3 stage dragon with these shit tier stats

kekking at your life senpai

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:04:22 No.29360035 Report

Quoted By: >>29360052

>>29359994
JUST

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:05:07 No.29360052 Report

Quoted By:

>>29359994
>>29360035
>Tranpinch gets Sheer Force as HA
>Flygon's only ability is Levitate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:08:09 No.29360104 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354612
hoenn has so many mixed attacking shitmons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:10:17 No.29360138 Report

Quoted By: >>29360207

>>29359874
>Arceus normal is the best Arceus
I guess it's because of hold items. Wonder if the same will be true for Silvally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:11:32 No.29360162 Report

Quoted By:

>>29359921
>40 speed
Is there even a spider in real life that's slow? What is up with this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:12:20 No.29360175 Report

Quoted By:

>Pokemon are all supposed to have minmaxed stats
>Having both high Attacks is bad

This thread is full of retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:14:04 No.29360204 Report

Quoted By:

Anyone know where i can find program op is using to make base stats table?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:14:24 No.29360207 Report

Quoted By:

>>29360138
>hold items
this and STAB extremespeed go far

life orb 120 bp supe priority coming off 120 base atk = yes pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:14:24 No.29360208 Report

Quoted By:

>>293542Scizor was still ou in gen2
And I think uu or bl in gen3

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:20:20 No.29360284 Report

Quoted By: >>29363239 >>29364170

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:44:28 No.29360653 Report

Quoted By: >>29360689 >>29360716 >>29360753 >>29362572

>>29354807
Dragon and those stats

Literally who

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:45:40 No.29360689 Report

Quoted By: >>29360753

>>29360653
My weeanus peeanus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:47:16 No.29360716 Report

Quoted By:

>>29360653
not dragon

it has a move like dragon dance but better

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:49:10 No.29360753 Report

Quoted By: >>29362572

>>29360653
>>29360689
It's Klinklang!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:51:28 No.29360800 Report

Quoted By:

>>29359911
>tfw the good guys win in the end

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:56:14 No.29360892 Report

Quoted By: >>29361007

>>29354393
Motherfucking Gyarados bitch

ooooh yeah get shwifty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:00:47 No.29360979 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354258
This was good in gen 3. Band Guts Facade ruined lives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:02:20 No.29361007 Report

Quoted By: >>29361290 >>29362658

>>29360892
gyara was shit in gen 1 and is shit now, although it had a pretty good run in between

chansey has always been ou in a sense, if blissey never existed she would never have dropped down

zapdos has almost always been ou but had a shaky time in gen 5

no other gen 1 mons strike me as consistent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:04:11 No.29361055 Report

Quoted By: >>29361123

>>29354393
>what is slowbro, zapados, and nearly snorlax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:04:35 No.29361061 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354258
Why did they give this piece of shit boomburst lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:07:09 No.29361123 Report

Quoted By: >>29361254

>>29361055
>nearly snorlax

snorlax has been awful since BW and wasn't very good in DP either desu

that's nearly 10 years of mediocrity

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:08:31 No.29361146 Report

Quoted By: >>29361220 >>29361223 >>29361246

>>29354665
You think you have it bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:09:32 No.29361166 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355137
Tyrantrum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:11:55 No.29361220 Report

Quoted By:

>>29361146
>NFE

Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:12:07 No.29361223 Report

Quoted By: >>29361246

>>29361146
Your bro is NFE?
I don't know what you expected from its stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:13:09 No.29361246 Report

Quoted By:

>>29361146
>>29361223
You have good taste, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:13:29 No.29361254 Report

Quoted By:

>>29361123
Pretty sure he was UU in DP and BW, I wouldn't classify that as average.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:15:08 No.29361290 Report

Quoted By: >>29362628

>>29361007
>Gen 1 to 5: OU
>Gen 6: RU
Being Jolteon is suffering.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:28:38 No.29361572 Report

Quoted By: >>29361651

>>29356084
S-STOP IT

YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT MY BRO THAT WAY

HE-HE'LL GET A COOL MEGA ONE DAY

I'M SURE OF IT

why can't game freak ever let me be happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:28:52 No.29361579 Report

Quoted By: >>29361606 >>29362017

>>29356258
literally who

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:30:06 No.29361606 Report

Quoted By: >>29362416

>>29361579
so you're saying the mon is unknown to you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:31:54 No.29361651 Report

Quoted By:

>>29361572
Tell me your story, anon, how did Whiscash become your bro?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:44:18 No.29361890 Report

Quoted By: >>29361969 >>29364720 >>29365100

>special defense meme takes up all if its BST
>Shit speed, shit defense, subpar attacking stats for pseudo
>Mediocre abilities
>No recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:49:20 No.29361969 Report

Quoted By: >>29362004

>>29361890
>No recovery
>what is rest+hydration
LEARN TO SET UP.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:51:12 No.29361999 Report

Quoted By:

At least he's fun to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:51:37 No.29362004 Report

Quoted By: >>29362655

>>29361969
>Using Politoed
>Not just using a wall that's good instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:52:19 No.29362017 Report

Quoted By: >>29362063

>>29361579
> he didn't watch the entei movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:52:45 No.29362023 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354273
You have to love it having Iron Fist with base 35 attack. Jesus Gamefreak, why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:52:55 No.29362030 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354701
>>29354754
At least it's not sawsbuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:54:56 No.29362063 Report

Quoted By:

>>29362017
I actually did, but it flew over my head. Never mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:55:44 No.29362076 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354936
>>29354988
confirmed for eating shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:57:24 No.29362098 Report

Quoted By: >>29362167 >>29362169

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:01:17 No.29362150 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354936
>mamoswine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:02:19 No.29362167 Report

Quoted By: >>29362222

>>29362098
>nfe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:02:38 No.29362169 Report

Quoted By:

>>29362098
Sunkern. Holly fuck Johto mons were a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:06:09 No.29362222 Report

Quoted By:

>>29362167
Not even an excuse for 180 BST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:08:44 No.29362275 Report

Quoted By: >>29362328

>>29354273
It gets encore, swords dance/agility, dual screens and baton pass. I do LC runs and I used ledyba on my HGSS team so if you can't find a way to use Ledian that's your problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:13:46 No.29362328 Report

Quoted By:

>>29362275
>any of that shit being useful ingame when you can just switch in something with a usable attack stat and hit supereffectives

>ledian ever being a viable support mon in any meta with that beyond shit tier typing/ stats

there is absolutely no way to use ledian in anything ever that couldn't be better done by pretty much every other mon in the dex, even most NFEs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:18:33 No.29362348 Report

Quoted By:

>still good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:21:27 No.29362356 Report

Quoted By:

Horsea
Seadra
Kingdra

Krabby
Kingler
---------

Why is this allowed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:30:07 No.29362416 Report

Quoted By:

>>29361606
Stealth puns: always the best kind

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:35:02 No.29362438 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354936
Avalugg, cryogonal and glaceon. BAM, THREE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:46:50 No.29362572 Report

Quoted By:

>>29360653
>>29360753
>Godly Shift Gear
>It has Gear Grind on top
>No other physical moves at all
>Like enjoy Return or shit.

It's the Kingdra of its era and without a second typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:50:14 No.29362628 Report

Quoted By: >>29362641 >>29362685 >>29362686

>>29361290
What happened?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:50:43 No.29362637 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:50:57 No.29362641 Report

Quoted By:

>>29362628
presumably that shit movepool finally caught up with it

also priority everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:51:36 No.29362655 Report

Quoted By: >>29362686

>>29362004
>he doesn't use assault vest rain dance goodra

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:51:50 No.29362658 Report

Quoted By:

>>29361007
Gengar and Starmie were OU for almost any generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:53:09 No.29362685 Report

Quoted By:

>>29362628
Not bulk enough for brave birds so Raikou took over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:53:10 No.29362686 Report

Quoted By: >>29362704 >>29362737

>>29362628
Raikou did everything it did but better, also didn't help that it was never that good to begin with.

>>29362655
I'm still baffled at that idea, did Verlis even think while making that video?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:54:12 No.29362700 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354179
>Ledian and Spinerak aren't even the bug catching contest
>can't even excuse them for being intentional duds for gameplay purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:54:18 No.29362704 Report

Quoted By:

>>29362686
I don't think he thinks at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:56:26 No.29362737 Report

Quoted By:

>>29362686
Verlis is... not very good at pokemon

Every time he posts a battle of his, he does some dumb shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:56:51 No.29362743 Report

Quoted By:

>>29356258
>Unusable attack literally
Actually, Unown can utilize its attack stat with Struggle. Any real Pokemon Trainer knows all their Pokemon's strengths!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:20:58 No.29363191 Report

Quoted By: >>29363262

>>29353890
Kingdra was boss in Gen 4.
Ran Sub/DD with Lum Berry, often got 2 free turns against people running status, and back then the only wall to Water/Dragon were Empoleon and Shedinja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:24:28 No.29363239 Report

Quoted By: >>29364170

>>29360284
This Pokémon doesn't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:25:47 No.29363262 Report

Quoted By: >>29363296

>>29363191
Gen V too, Kingdra was one of the reasons why the SS+Drizzle combination was banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:28:08 No.29363296 Report

Quoted By: >>29363386 >>29363458

>>29363262
I stopped playing gen 5 because of Drizzle and Drought. Making that complex ban just made it uglier IMO, the abilities should have been outright banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:31:37 No.29363348 Report

Quoted By:

>>29353890
>he's never been hit by a rain+Life Orb-boosted hydro pump
>he's never been hit by an acceptably okay draco meteor in case he's packing resists

Yeah, yeah, ferrothorn and gen 6 rain, shut up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:33:35 No.29363386 Report

Quoted By:

>>29363296
Smogon loves stall, so banning Drizzle meant losing their precious rain stall teams

Kingdra wrecked (and still wrecks) shit in the rain though, Choice Spec'd Hydro Pump in the rain pretty much OHKOs anything that doesn't resist it and Draco Meteor deals with everything else (except Chansey, fuck her).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:37:32 No.29363458 Report

Quoted By: >>29363518

>>29363296
Well I don't think Drizzle and Drought were broken enough to be banned, since we had Sand Stream already running for a while.

Also the introduction of Fairy types didn't really help Kingdra since they made Outrage useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:40:39 No.29363511 Report

Quoted By:

>>29354273
i've used ledian in-game just fine anon. once you get past the ledyba stage it's fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:41:03 No.29363518 Report

Quoted By: >>29364020

>>29363458
>be a kingdra user
>the other team has multiple pokemon that are either Water, Steel, or Fairy
>can't spam one move

shit hurts

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:46:04 No.29363604 Report

Quoted By: >>29363644 >>29363691

defend this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:48:24 No.29363644 Report

Quoted By:

>>29363604
keeps ground immunity even after being soaked

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:51:22 No.29363691 Report

Quoted By: >>29363883 >>29364046

>>29363604
JUST

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:01:18 No.29363883 Report

Quoted By:

>>29363691
That had purpose in gen 5.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:04:22 No.29363935 Report

Quoted By:

bidoof got more attention for the same ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:09:30 No.29364020 Report

Quoted By:

>>29363518
>ferrothorn everywhere
indeed hurts, fuck gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:10:45 No.29364046 Report

Quoted By: >>29364289

>>29363691
>wanting to get paralyzed by normalize delcatty

wew lad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:17:16 No.29364170 Report

Quoted By:

>>29360284
>>29363239
Golduck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:24:03 No.29364289 Report

Quoted By:

>>29364046
>stretching that far
dude, just stun spore it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:48:05 No.29364707 Report

Quoted By: >>29364727

hey guys

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:48:40 No.29364720 Report

Quoted By:

>>29361890
other member of le specially defensive meme dragon squad reporting in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:49:02 No.29364727 Report

Quoted By:

>>29364707
dude 69 lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 00:04:18 No.29365049 Report

Quoted By:

>>29355324
>>29355493
Got to battle number 80 in the maison with these three as a lead and mega swampert, porygon 2 and togekiss as back up.
Poliwrath is a monster I tell you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 00:07:05 No.29365100 Report

Quoted By: >>29365161

>>29361890
I kind of wish its speed was lower and thrown into defenses for trick room shenanigans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 00:10:17 No.29365161 Report

Quoted By:

>>29365100
>it's the base 80 isn't slow enough for trick room meme!

base 80 with 0 IVs and a negative nature will outspeed base 60s in trick room, it's fine

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