>>29363961In ORAS they are at least mid tier, they have memorable, likable characters and aren't completely retarded. RSE Magma and Aqua were shit though.
>>29364298Plasma's pretty lame to me due to how poorly they handled the whole moral ambiguity they wanted in BW1 and not really liking N, but Ghetsis was pretty well built up and at least was amusing for being pretty hardcore. Dude actually tries to kill you and would if it weren't for Dues Ex N.