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Big question

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:43:54 No.29402809 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29402891 >>29402906 >>29403078 >>29403087 >>29403509 >>29403668 >>29404034 >>29404203 >>29404663 >>29404806

What exactly makes a fakemon design bad to you guys? What element in a design makes it feel like it's not a pokemon?

This is all subjective so there should be no wrong answer, right?

Pic unrelated (or related if it rustles your jimmies)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:48:42 No.29402891 Report

Quoted By: >>29402914 >>29404725 >>29404771

>>29402809
well that one's racist and also looks like a Yokai

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:49:24 No.29402906 Report

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>>29402809
Colors, being too human-like, details

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:49:44 No.29402914 Report

Quoted By: >>29403025

>>29402891
>racist
gypsy isn't a race

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:53:04 No.29402992 Report

Quoted By: >>29403104

First and foremost, it has to actually look like a pokemon design. So damn many are over-designed (yes, yes, I know) or simply don't match the look or feel of the series. Sure, a monster design can be creative and well-done, but if it clashes with the series, why even call it a fakemon?

Also, this thread is clearly a passive-aggressive response to people no liking that thing's design, and your desire to fuck it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:54:40 No.29403025 Report

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>>29402914
No but Romani (which Gypsy is a slur for) IS a race

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:55:21 No.29403045 Report

Quoted By: >>29404203

The only real way to make a Fakemon look nothing like a Pokemon is if you make it a literal human - even the most human looking Pokemon are different enough to be considered merely a human like creature.
That and no over abundance of accessories. A bit of clothing or a weapon is fine, but not a suit of power armor and 5 Gatling Guns like a Digimon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:56:31 No.29403078 Report

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>>29402809
Some artists can hit the nail on the head on how they draw it. However, some designs seem uninspired, like how some well designed fakemon look too much like official art work. Don't get me wrong, fakemon are great, it's just hard to come across some phenomenal ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:56:52 No.29403087 Report

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>>29402809
Any of the cancers of fakemon design
>too human
>dragon, dragon, randomly a dragon
>b-buh muh wolf
>OMG le cyborg so edgy blades und ridges

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:57:05 No.29403092 Report

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>>29403025
Okay tumblr, calm down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:57:31 No.29403104 Report

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>>29402992
I don't care about that thing, I was just browsing through this one guy's DA and saved the pic at random.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 18:59:50 No.29403139 Report

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>>29403025
that's like saying hobo is a racial slur

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:01:16 No.29403166 Report

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>>29403025
I so hate it we're associated with those literal piles of trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:02:35 No.29403182 Report

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>>29403104
And then you renamed the file out of habit, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:18:28 No.29403462 Report

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:21:47 No.29403509 Report

Quoted By: >>29403564 >>29403649 >>29404744

>>29402809
This topic actually makes me curious about my own fakemon. Pic related is a corsola evo I made for fun (not painted because lazy fuck). Is a reef that can move, and water types live on it.

Does this look like something that could be an actual pokemon? too overdesigned? too simple? "it just gets bigger"? I might want to rethink how I draw these things if I get good arguments/ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:22:07 No.29403516 Report

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>neutral, dead eyes
>sameface (if artist makes more)
>looks like it wants to please everyone, but instead disappoints everyone
>uninspired, no visible themes, just a random monster or literally my mom's something

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:25:16 No.29403564 Report

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>>29403509
>"it just gets bigger"?
more like "it just gets a body"

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:25:24 No.29403569 Report

Quoted By: >>29403623 >>29403675

>>29403462
Exactly.

...though, bottom left could ALMOST work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:27:28 No.29403604 Report

Quoted By: >>29403631

>a pokemon is based on an object
>it's just the object with eyes

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:28:37 No.29403623 Report

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>>29403569
Would you?

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:29:12 No.29403631 Report

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>>29403604

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:30:16 No.29403649 Report

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>>29403509
This is pretty good. It expands on the concept, becomes larger while also changing the silhouette, and isn't too complex/bland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:31:19 No.29403668 Report

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>>29403025
it's honestly no more racist than calling Native Americans Indian.

Gypsy derives from the Greeks mistaking them as coming from Egypt, as I recall, they're technically of Asian Indian descent.

Is it correct? No. Are there negative connotations? Yes. Is it intended to be offensive? No, it's just a misunderstanding.

>>29402809
Hard to say what makes things 'bad' but what makes a good Fakemon design for me is the same thing that makes a good regular pokemon design:

A good pokemon must balance what animal it is, what theme it's meant to carry, and what element(s) it's typing is.

This is honestly why Kalos starters are some of my favorites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:32:30 No.29403675 Report

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>>29403569
Not gonna lie.

I would.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:32:49 No.29403681 Report

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>>29403092
>don't use racist slurs pls
>woah, chill out tumblr
beautiful, but then, this is chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:41:19 No.29403836 Report

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It has to look like something they would actually design as a Pokemon

Some of the ones that don't look like Pokemon are actually good but calling it a Pokemon makes it bad

They'd be better off making their own thing when they go with completely different styles

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 19:52:06 No.29404034 Report

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>>29402809
The biggest issue with Fakemon is that the artists just do not understand the aesthetics behind the designs of Pokemon, the artstyle or the proportions that generally go with them. Some guys just think you slap some random monster but most of the time it just doesn't work at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:01:57 No.29404203 Report

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>>29402809
>>29403045
>over abundance of accessories. A bit of clothing or a weapon is fine, but not a suit of power armor and 5 Gatling Guns like a Digimon.

This, and only having two tone edgy colors, such as combinations of red and black, black and green, and purple and black

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:27:19 No.29404663 Report

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>>29402809
Being too humanoid, over abundance of accessories, and having muddled ideas typically kill a fakemon design for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:30:57 No.29404725 Report

Quoted By: >>29404829

>>29402891
This is chan so people are gonna sperg but, this. It's just not a good idea after Jynx, plus it's uncomfortably humanoid. And it does look like a yokai. Shits creepy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:32:24 No.29404744 Report

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>>29403509
I like it. Are the Luvdiscs included?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:33:35 No.29404771 Report

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>>29402891
Gypsies are horrible people so honestly they deserve it. They are pretty fucked up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:35:32 No.29404806 Report

Quoted By: >>29404855

>>29402809
This looks like a character from Shantae

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:36:37 No.29404829 Report

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>>29404725
>This is chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:37:35 No.29404845 Report

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>>29403182
Not him but come on

Mobile changes filenames you fucking retard

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:38:09 No.29404855 Report

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>>29404806
Just a quick reminder that this happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 20:38:20 No.29404856 Report

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>>29403025
Fuck gypsies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 22:38:52 No.29406865 Report

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>>29403631
Voltorb/Electrode is a bit of a more ambiguous origin.

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