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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:24:47 No.29422673 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29422702 >>29422734 >>29422801 >>29423308 >>29423660 >>29424496

Could these be the new kings of Eviolite?
>Type: Null probably has around 500 BST and higher Def/SpDef than Silvally because of the mask
>the cocoon possibly has a BST in the 400s with everything dumped into Def/SpDef

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:26:08 No.29422702 Report

Quoted By: >>29422838 >>29423283

>>29422673
>higher Def/SpDef than Silvally because of the mask
I don't think so. The mask wasn't really something to protect it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:27:44 No.29422719 Report

Quoted By: >>29422794 >>29423300

Good point with the cocoon thing. First legendary pre-evo, AND it's likely defensive anyways.

What if they make an offensive equivalent to eviolite though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:27:52 No.29422723 Report

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I'm betting Cocoon has a BST of 500 or better, same with Null.

Hopefully scyther tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:28:11 No.29422734 Report

Quoted By: >>29422780

>>29422673
I have a feeling the psychic guy will not be a traditional evolution. It will be a ne gimmick, kinda like Phione

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:30:56 No.29422780 Report

Quoted By: >>29423031

>>29422734
Ain't that cute, BUT IT'S WRONG

Sea pokedex order datamine and leak 5.

It's a 3 stage legendary split evo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:32:02 No.29422794 Report

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>>29422719
Scyther new meta. Again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:32:23 No.29422801 Report

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>>29422673
Cocoons have shit BST, it won't be different this time. They don't need to get equally stronger by every step of evolution. First two stages can be weak as shit, then the prize comes. Type:Null is all about being limited, so it has lower, Speed and Attack than Silvally. I could see it having 90/90 defenses though, which is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:34:49 No.29422838 Report

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>>29422702
it has Battle Armor as an ability though. I am sure Null is a def mon while Silvalley with its RKS System is more of an attack mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:36:25 No.29422861 Report

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>>29422794
don't forget sneasel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:49:11 No.29423031 Report

Quoted By: >>29423104

>>29422780
I want to comment on that.

That pokemon will probably evolve into Sol/Luna in during the story. When we face it to try to capture it, it will 100% sure be on its final form (it is in the game cover, for crying out loud)

How do register it (them) in your pokedex? Well, there will obviously be a way to get them both again, but I don't think they will evolve into Sol/Luna. Do you think we will be able to breed as many Sol/Luna as we want? Don't think so.

You won't be able to evolve the preevo mon. Think Carbink to Diancie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:53:04 No.29423099 Report

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Nulls stats probably aren't too good since the mask was a power inhibitor and it has a shit ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:53:13 No.29423104 Report

Quoted By: >>29423208

>>29423031
Carbink and Phione are not prevos.

This guy said prevos.

THEY WILL BE STANDARD EVOS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:58:06 No.29423171 Report

Quoted By: >>29423368

Type: Null will have 80 in all stats
Silvally will have 100 in all stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 20:59:51 No.29423208 Report

Quoted By: >>29423282 >>29423288

>>29423104
I don't give a fuck what this guy said. If you saw phione you would assume it was a prevo as well

Also, according to you, everybody can breed a hundred of the game's mascot, right. If they don't breed, how do you get these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:04:27 No.29423282 Report

Quoted By: >>29423518

>>29423208
The 1st stage is confirmed to be in Lillie's bag. You get it and evolve it twice and Game Freak pisses off living Dex autists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:04:31 No.29423283 Report

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>>29422702

They've specifically said it adds protection at the cost of weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:04:44 No.29423288 Report

Quoted By: >>29423538

>>29423208
Alchemy, they are artificially created.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:05:40 No.29423300 Report

Quoted By: >>29423318 >>29423327 >>29423371 >>29423391 >>29423524 >>29423563 >>29423800 >>29424562

>>29422719
>What if they make an offensive equivalent to eviolite though?
Literally will never happen. Do you have any idea how fucking broken that would be?

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:05:56 No.29423308 Report

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>>29422673
>knock off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:06:55 No.29423318 Report

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>>29423300
Because GF is known for wanting to make a balanced game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:07:27 No.29423327 Report

Quoted By: >>29423643

>>29423300
Not really.

Only Sneasel and Scyther(to daye) would see major upper tier usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:09:20 No.29423368 Report

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>>29423171
Definitely not. We already know the Speed increase is dramatic. I'm guessing
100/80/100/80/100/50
120/100/80/100/80/100

At least 1 120 stat as an Arceus nod. 580 puts it at the lower bound of Legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:09:22 No.29423371 Report

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>>29423300
it would have been broken in gen 5

now, we'd probably have some new wallbreakers and cleaners but nothing fantastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:09:35 No.29423377 Report

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Putting this here for myself.
>>27702506

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:10:26 No.29423391 Report

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>>29423300
doubtful, the relatively low speed of NFEs keeps them in check

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:17:07 No.29423518 Report

Quoted By: >>29423638

>>29423282
>Making it possible for players to completely miss the boxart legends during a playthrough

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:17:20 No.29423524 Report

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>>29423300
Low speed but not low enough to take adequate advantage of Trick Room. Sure, Cranidos would have the second-highest base Attack (after applying 1.5x bonus) in the game at 187.5, but it'll still fall over before it can really do much of anything to a Pokemon even remotely fast with its stupidly low defenses. Only one to really benefit enough to get a significant tier boost would be Scyther, which is still Bug/Flying and doesn't have access to STAB Bullet Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:18:25 No.29423538 Report

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>>29423288
Good enough, but if you have access to multiple, they will not evolve into solgaleo or lunala

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:20:07 No.29423554 Report

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Why people don't want a pre-evolution for Solgaleo and Lunala? Where's the problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:20:52 No.29423563 Report

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>>29423300
We've had threads about this. It's not broken at all, in fact it's usually better to use the evolved mon with life orb than it is to use an unevolved mon with an "eviomite".
In the best case scenario, you're only doing 5-10% more damage with a mon that's also slower and frailer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:26:08 No.29423638 Report

Quoted By: >>29423721

>>29423518

>what is gen2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:26:38 No.29423643 Report

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>>29423327
What About Electabuzz?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:28:01 No.29423660 Report

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>>29422673

I swear if Type:Null isn't instabanned from LC, I'm gonna eat raw eggs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:31:58 No.29423721 Report

Quoted By: >>29423757

>>29423638
Nowadays boxtart legends are the center of the story, hence unmissable.

This started with Groudon and Kyogre (from there on, paired boxtart legends had common design features and themes)

Also
>Obtaining the boxart legend via evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:33:55 No.29423757 Report

Quoted By: >>29423833

>>29423721
Ohmori and Masuda did saud they wanted to make something special with the box Legendary and considering they share the same Shiny colors and the cocoon is also red.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:37:09 No.29423800 Report

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>>29423300
Nah there's probly ~5 Pokemon that can really abuse it, and they wouldn't even be that good. Anything that's slow and is a strong attacker would still get more eviolite, so you'd be restricted to fast and strong mons. Sneasel, Scyther, Electabuzz, Kadabra, and maybe Murkrow would be about the whole list, of real potential abusers, with 3 of those still outclassed by their evolutions. Scyther and Electabuzz would really be the only unique attackers gained from offensive eviolite, and Scyther suffers from poor typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:39:48 No.29423833 Report

Quoted By: >>29424244

>>29423757
I am not saying they aren't related, I am just saying that if you have access to multiple of its preevolutions, these won't evolve.

Only the one from the story will

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 21:45:50 No.29423935 Report

Quoted By: >>29424178

I admit it's possible that starcocoonmon will evolve into either boxartchu, and it's also possible that it will be related but not evolve for one reason or another into either. But there's also a possibility no one seems to have mentioned.
What if coocoonkachoo here isn't related to the boxart legends at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 22:00:39 No.29424178 Report

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>>29423935
They are related. The first one is on Lilly's bag, and GF wanted it be super secret. Also, and perhaps more importantly: they are after the Tapus in dex order

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 22:04:11 No.29424244 Report

Quoted By: >>29424444

>>29423833
Nope

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 22:13:21 No.29424444 Report

Quoted By: >>29424515

>>29424244
Is that all that's left of your argument?

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 22:16:29 No.29424496 Report

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>>29422673
Hope type null is, I like the helmet a lot and don't like silvalley as much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 22:17:26 No.29424515 Report

Quoted By: >>29424613

>>29424444
And how does your argument beat out leaks and datamining?

LE PHIONE MUH PATTERNS

GF WOULD NEVER DO AN EVOLVING LEGENDARY, NOT EVEN IN A GEN WITH NO FUCKING GYMS OR E4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 22:20:27 No.29424562 Report

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>>29423300
Yeah, the fucking lightball made a 55/50 shitmon reach 159/149 base damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 22:23:40 No.29424613 Report

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>>29424515
I am not saying it won't evolve you retard.

I am saying:
-When you capture it it will already be Solgaleo/Lunala
-How do you get the preevos then? I don't know, but they will not give you a second one for the lols or a way to breed a jillilion of them.

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