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Cosmog Confusion

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:40:45 No.29459402 View View Reply Original Report

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Speculate.

Also

>Why do you think they only showed Cosmog and not its counterpart?

>Do you think they'll be version exclusives?

>Do you think Cosmog is what's in Lillie's bag

>Is Cosmog a pre-evo to one of the legendaries?

>Is it one of the legendaries but in a different form?

>What role do you think it will hold in the story?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:41:51 No.29459452 Report

Quoted By: >>29461660

It's obviously a pre-evo, just look up the datamine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:42:09 No.29459463 Report

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>>29459402
I think it will evolve into that other pre-evo legendary thing. It looks like it will evolve into either Solgaeo or Lunala.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:42:19 No.29459475 Report

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>>29459402
>counterpart
Implying Cosmog doesn't evolve into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:42:31 No.29459489 Report

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>>29459402
>Why do you think they only showed Cosmog and not its counterpart?

i don't think the eye thing is his counterpart, more like his second cocoon evo like Metapod or Kakuna.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:42:38 No.29459493 Report

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>>29459402
>>Why do you think they only showed Cosmog and not its counterpart?
If you're talking about the cocoon, it's not a counterpart. It's an evolution.

>>Do you think they'll be version exclusives?
See above

>>Do you think Cosmog is what's in Lillie's bag
Well duh. It's been confirmed multiple times by the journalists who played the game early.

>>Is Cosmog a pre-evo to one of the legendaries?
It's pre-evo to both of the legendaries.

>>Is it one of the legendaries but in a different form?
It has a different name so no. It's an entirely separate Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:43:07 No.29459515 Report

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>>29459402
Because Cosmog evolves into the cocoon and then into either of the legendaries you stupid fuck.
This is incredibly obvious from the dex order.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:45:36 No.29459622 Report

Quoted By: >>29459861 >>29466442

What if this is Marshadow?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:51:13 No.29459861 Report

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>>29459622
Would be weird because this one fits the name better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:52:28 No.29459908 Report

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>>29459861
Would be weird.
But who knows at this point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:54:02 No.29459971 Report

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Puni-chan 2.0

"M-masaka cosmog was solgaleo all along?!"
Sugoiiii sugoiiiii

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 13:55:57 No.29460059 Report

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>>29459402
>counterpart

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:05:00 No.29460433 Report

Quoted By: >>29460756

>>29459402
They're evolutions, not counterparts, idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:07:56 No.29460561 Report

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>>29459908
Marshadow is supposed to be a mythical like Magearna, so it wouldn't be in front of the legendaries in the sprite dump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:10:04 No.29460659 Report

Quoted By: >>29461450 >>29464776 >>29464988 >>29466316

Heres what I think.

Cosmog is a nebula, which is essentially space matter, unrefined and free. as it evolves, it absorbs sun or moon energy depending on your version, eventually becoming your legendary pokemon. This would be a revolutionary way to give you a box legendary and it would make the legendaries so much more memorable. No more of that "oh god its barely mentioned until the end of the story and then you have to catch it" shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:12:25 No.29460756 Report

Quoted By: >>29461388 >>29461705

>>29460433
>They're evolutions, not counterparts, idiot.
>Rowlett3 si Grass/Flying, idiot
>Bull totem is Fire/Fairy, idiot
>Dolphin totem is clearly Ghost/Fairy, idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:14:12 No.29460832 Report

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I hope it is a counterpart, unless Cosmog will be the first ever evolving Legendary. Which is kinda cool, and bizarre but this is Ohmori directing and he has changed a few conventional stuff anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:26:21 No.29461328 Report

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>>29459402
>Why do you think they only showed Cosmog and not its counterpart?
Because those Pokemon are integral to the plot and them showing both off is too much being spoiled about the game. Them showing as much about this one in the Japanese trailer as they did was already too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:27:57 No.29461388 Report

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>>29460756
>haha I can think any nonsensical thing I want just because some people were wrong about guesses that had no evidence either way xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:29:09 No.29461450 Report

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>>29460659
I adored Solgaleo/Lunala from the moment I saw them and now we have this. I'm so fucking glad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:31:27 No.29461541 Report

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>>29461388
>some people
Do you mean literally everyone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:34:15 No.29461660 Report

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>>29459452
this, it just transforms into a different legendary depending on the game version

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:35:01 No.29461705 Report

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>>29459908

Marshadow is supposed to have a unique typing.

So no.

>>29460756

You mean the cocoon thing that looks exactly like the two legendaries? They ain't counterparts, my nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:36:37 No.29461767 Report

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>>29461541
you mean just like how "literally everyone" guessed fire/dark, water/fairy, psychic/fairy guardian? your retard logic works both ways and there is strong evidence that it is a pre-evo. Now fuck off.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:37:08 No.29461789 Report

Quoted By: >>29461990 >>29462204

>receive Cosmogg from Lillie after rescuing it
>take care of it and raise it
>it evolves into Box Art Legend to protect you from Ultra Beasts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:37:53 No.29461828 Report

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>>29459402
>counterpart
You mean evolution?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:39:52 No.29461902 Report

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>>29459402
>counterpart

Stop this shity meme. That yellow thing is its evolution, it shouldn't be that hard to make the conmection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:41:50 No.29461990 Report

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>>29461789
Not gonna lie, that'd be fucking amazing
Super Metroid vibes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:46:39 No.29462176 Report

Quoted By: >>29462238

Reminder that Dex order literally means nothing.
Larvitar is after Raikou, Suicune, and Entei, yet its evolution line isn't Legendary

It'll have a connection to Solgaleo and Lunala, but I'm willing to bet Cosmog only evolves into that star thing, you're only able to find one Cosmog in the game, and it's not breedable. Like a subordinate Legendary to Solgaleo and Lunala.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:47:14 No.29462204 Report

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>>29461789
i dont wanna be forced to use it though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 14:48:14 No.29462238 Report

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>>29462176
To be fair in gen II the conventional order hadn't really been established.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 15:04:28 No.29462938 Report

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Coming entirely from a conceptual standpoint I've got certain, speculative possibilities you can have a gander at.

There's the pretty obvious alchemy elements to their designs which I know barely anything about, but there's a secondary aspect about them being 'emissaries' and Cosmog's description as being friendly and associated with royalty (almost like a treasure, it would seem).
In ancient Rome children of well to do families were given one of two amulets; a bulla for a boy and a lunula for a girl (the name there is a big part of my theory tbqhwyfam). These amulets were worn to protect the children from evil and stuff, you can google it yourselves, and they were taken away when they reached adulthood/got married (getting dicked makes evil uninterested I guess). I'm pretty sure there's a correlation there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 15:07:59 No.29463113 Report

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Cosmog normally evolves into the star shell thing. The one in Lillies bag evolves into Lunaala/Solgaleo after you play the moon/sun flute in front of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 15:13:46 No.29463368 Report

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>>29459402
The Japanese trailer from today pretty much confirmed that it is what is in Lillie's bag, which is something we have all known for a while.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 15:30:28 No.29464101 Report

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‘The Sun is its father, the moon its mother, the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth is its nurse.’

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 15:38:19 No.29464383 Report

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Gas to protostar to star/failed star confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 15:45:07 No.29464549 Report

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>>29459861
What type combos with Dark or Ghost haven't been done yet?

Bug/Dark?
Dark/Fairy?
Ghost/Normal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 15:47:24 No.29464595 Report

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>>29464101
What the fuck, this sounds mythical as fuck. Where is it from? Emerald Tablet huh? Gonna google it.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 15:57:20 No.29464776 Report

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>>29460659
>Nothing they come up with will be as good as this could be

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 16:03:09 No.29464988 Report

Quoted By: >>29466429

>>29460659
Basically this. The site mentions that it absorbs light to grow, so depending on the version you play it evolves into the legendary. What is really throwing me for a loop is that Lycanroc suggest that Solgaleo/Lunala as legendary forces exist already in universe. I am starting to wonder if perhps thr Solgaleo/Lunala you raise are indeed Faux-Legendaries, literally emissaries and copies of the true legendary duo. Maybe Solgaleo/Lunala are really the sun and the moon, and the Pokemon itself is a manifestation of their power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 16:35:41 No.29466203 Report

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I hope all y'all talking are wrong as fuck. Some of you have been terribly wrong before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 16:38:26 No.29466316 Report

Quoted By: >>29467232

>>29460659
I'll go a step further and predict that Solgaleo and Lunala share a dex number and have the same gimmick as Lycanroc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 16:40:15 No.29466384 Report

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>>29464101
Best lore to date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 16:41:28 No.29466429 Report

Quoted By: >>29467672

>>29464988
>copies of the true legendary duo
Are you insinuating that legendary Pokemon are all one of a kind? The only thing supporting that is in-game folklore, while there have been sightings of 'one of a kind Pokemon' on opposite sides of the world. The folklore is there mainly for you to deduce the source behind the design, not necessarily as a literal reading of the species in the Pokemon world. Magcargo isn't hotter than the sun either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 16:41:49 No.29466442 Report

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>>29459622

>Martian + Shadow

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 17:02:57 No.29467199 Report

Quoted By: >>29468155

I love it's name, Cosmo and Smog, plus "Mog" which can be interpreted as small.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 17:03:56 No.29467232 Report

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>>29466316
We know their national dex number, that's incorrect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 17:17:13 No.29467672 Report

Quoted By: >>29467934

>>29466429
For these two, yes. I know it sounds ridiculous, but if Pokemon evolve because of the influence of another Pokemon' energy directly, Lycanroc should be a Post-game only evolution, after the Legendary Duo is awakened, but Olivia does own one way before that. So yeah, I don't see how that dynamic works unless there already is a Legendary roaming about.

INB4 The twist is the Cosmog you rqise through the game is actually so you can gain the other legendarh ala gen 2, and having both Solgaleo/Lunala summoned ala BW is the real twist of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 17:24:48 No.29467934 Report

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>>29467672
I'm confused by this response. There's no reason that there can't be multiples of every legendary Pokemon. There's also nothing to confirm that the whole '[legendary pokemon]'s energy' thing isn't just regional folklore because the idyllic island folk just happen to worship those Pokemon as deities because of the ideas behind the designs and the ideas behind the region's design.
There's no reason to take the game literally, especially Pokedex entries that are just hints at the design inspirations in the form of assumptions by the protag mixed with local folktales, at the end of the day. If you're a grown up and you're taking stuff like this directly and not reading it for the underlying story then you need to, I dunno, read more. Pick up some Barthes or something, jeez.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 17:26:57 No.29468024 Report

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>>29459402

> Cosmog's counterpart

But that's clearly it's "cocoon" stage evo.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 17:30:09 No.29468155 Report

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>>29467199
>plus "Mog" which can be interpreted as small
yeah, but only people from somalia would get that

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