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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 21:20:03 No.29476109 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29476548 >>29478880

Could it work as a bulky attacker with an Assault Vest?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 21:31:05 No.29476419 Report

Quoted By: >>29476481

Depends on whether or not Alolan forms have stat changes. It'd need defensive investment to be bulky enough to tank anything properly, and 70 base attack is pretty awful. It also doesn't get great move coverage.

The Fake Out + Last Resort gimmick may give it enough power to be kinda useful as a bulky attacker.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 21:32:46 No.29476481 Report

Quoted By: >>29476784 >>29477062

>>29476419

Alolan Persian also gets Fur Coat.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 21:35:00 No.29476548 Report

Quoted By: >>29476591

>>29476109
nasty plot with fur coat is a great combo, especially with a good mono-stab like dark pulse. still based off persian so it won't be amazing, but i could see this being good in RU or NU

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 21:36:19 No.29476591 Report

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>>29476548
It really isnt. Any specil attacker can come in and ohko plus dark typing isnt defensive at all

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 21:43:11 No.29476784 Report

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>>29476481
I'm aware. Even with Fur Coat, it still needs def / spdef investment to actually tank anything well, meaning the amount you can put into attack is limited.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 21:51:08 No.29477043 Report

Quoted By: >>29477676

252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Persian: 99-117 (57.5 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

You need special defense investment in order to tank anything, meaning you can't really invest in attack.

0+ Atk Persian Double-Edge vs. 196 HP / 20 Def Azumarill: 66-78 (33 - 39%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery

And unfortunately, without attack investment, this pokemon does nothing.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 21:51:41 No.29477062 Report

Quoted By: >>29478706

>>29476481
Fur Coat alone probably isn't enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 22:08:53 No.29477551 Report

Quoted By: >>29477676 >>29478889

252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 148 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Persian: 66-78 (41.5 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

It needs 148 HP / 252 SpDef with a Careful nature to not get 2HKO'd by a normal Alakazam.

252 Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 148 HP / 108 Def Fur Coat Persian: 72-84 (45.2 - 52.8%) -- 28.1% chance to 2HKO

It needs 148 HP / 108 Def to even have a chance at not being 2HKO'd by CB Talonflame.

This means no attack investment.

0 Atk Persian Double-Edge vs. 196 HP / 20 Def Azumarill: 60-72 (30 - 36%) -- 36.3% chance to 3HKO

It's unlikely to even 3HKO an Azumarill with it's strongest move.

Fur Coat isn't enough. LEts hope for Alolan stat changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 22:14:00 No.29477676 Report

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>>29477551
>>29477043
Isn't alolan Persian dark?

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 22:53:31 No.29478706 Report

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>>29477062
Furfrou is just fine defense physical, but with no recovery he's limited to rest
And not having resistances sucks for it too, as it will for a dark

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 22:55:19 No.29478751 Report

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Persian doesn't really have the offensive stats to run a pure offense set. It needs to set up, which is why most Persian variants run Nasty Plot (its best boosting move) and a special set.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 23:00:54 No.29478880 Report

Quoted By: >>29478956

>>29476109
My vision is a annoying set trying to take advantage of stab + technician bite to try to flinch hax people and make them rage quit.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 23:01:20 No.29478889 Report

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>>29477551
1. Alolan Persian is Dark type dude. It isn't getting hit by psychic.
2. Who said it will be going physical? It has access to nasty plot it could give up an assualt vest and be a bulky booster.
3. It may have very different distribution compared to it's Kanto form It could have less speed but higher defenses or offenses. I mean it does look more sedentary.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Oct 2016 23:04:06 No.29478956 Report

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>>29478880
sounds pretty cool actually

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