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Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:42:53 No.29505966 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29505993 >>29505995 >>29505999 >>29506022 >>29506032 >>29506040 >>29506195 >>29507649 >>29507680 >>29507829 >>29507868 >>29507947 >>29508413 >>29508460 >>29509113

NO
THIS /CANNOT/ BE HAPPENING
FAIRY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NERFED
OWL WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE DOUBLE ADVANTAGE ON POPPMAID LIKE THE OTHERS
THIS IS NOT RIGHT GHOST IS NOT POWERFUL ENOUGH IT NEEDS TO BE BUFFED AGAIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:43:52 No.29505990 Report

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Fuck ghost, WHERE IS MY ICE TYPE BUFFS?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:43:55 No.29505993 Report

Quoted By: >>29508364

>>29505966
Calm down sperg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:44:02 No.29505995 Report

Quoted By: >>29506035 >>29510181

>>29505966
>Wanting to buff Aegislash further

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:44:26 No.29505999 Report

Quoted By: >>29506223

>>29505966
>DOUBLE ADVANTAGE

Incineroar is neutral to fairy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:45:25 No.29506022 Report

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>>29505966
Fine by me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:46:04 No.29506032 Report

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>>29505966
Ok so this means A-Sandslash's last hope really is its HA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:46:12 No.29506035 Report

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>>29505995
or gengar. yeesh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:46:31 No.29506040 Report

Quoted By: >>29506065 >>29506166 >>29506196 >>29507588

>>29505966

If anything, Fairy needs to lose its Bug resistance, and gain a Ghost resistance.

Also, Fairy as a type is not broken. It's their abilities that make them good.

Clefable is only good because of Magic Guard.

Mega Gardevoir, Mega Altaria, and Sylveon are only good because of Pixilate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:47:52 No.29506065 Report

Quoted By: >>29506090

>>29506040
fairy needs to lose its bug resistance and gain a bug weakness

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:48:30 No.29506077 Report

Quoted By: >>29506145 >>29506183 >>29506211 >>29506328

Y'all realize that a while back we found that Steel resists Dark right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:49:18 No.29506090 Report

Quoted By: >>29506127 >>29508817

>>29506065
Yeah, nah, go fuck yourselves bugfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:50:47 No.29506127 Report

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>>29506090
Fuck off fairyfaggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:51:40 No.29506145 Report

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>>29506077
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:52:16 No.29506166 Report

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>>29506040
Fairy resists the most common coverage type with Fighting, the type with the most spammable move (Knock Off) with Dark, and the formerly most dangerous STAB type with Dragon, as well as U-Turn. It has only two weaknesses that are not common as coverage. That's a super good defensive type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:53:08 No.29506181 Report

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They have only ever changed the type chart when a new type had been introduced. Don't know why anyone would think they changed it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:53:13 No.29506183 Report

Quoted By: >>29506210

>>29506077
Yes, if by "a while back" you mean "a couple generations back"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:53:44 No.29506195 Report

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>>29505966
Ghost is my favorite type and I don't think it needs buffed any further.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:53:47 No.29506196 Report

Quoted By: >>29506213

>>29506040
Remove the bug resistance and give Grass/Bug a Fairy resistance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:54:14 No.29506210 Report

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>>29506183
in gen 6 they got rid of steel's dark resistance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:54:15 No.29506211 Report

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>>29506077
That was some idiot who thought Hakamo-o was Dragon/Steel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:54:22 No.29506213 Report

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>>29506196
Nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:54:43 No.29506223 Report

Quoted By: >>29506248 >>29506277 >>29506397 >>29508851 >>29508869 >>29509014

>>29505999
But Incineroar is weak to Fairy AND Water, and Decidueye is weak to Fire AND Dark. It makes sense that Primarina would be weak to Grass AND Dark.

But it's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:55:45 No.29506248 Report

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>>29506223
>Grass AND Dark

I meant Ghost. Fuck, I'll see myself out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:56:58 No.29506277 Report

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>>29506223

The Fire Type resists Fairy, so Incineroar takes normal damage from it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:58:52 No.29506323 Report

Quoted By: >>29507818 >>29507921

>ice will never be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 21:58:55 No.29506328 Report

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>>29506077
That was disproven, it was a guy who thought Hakamo-o was Dragon/Steel and wondered why Night Slash was NVE on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 22:01:22 No.29506397 Report

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>>29506223
No, incineroar is not weak to fairy. Fire makes it take neutral damage from fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 22:54:43 No.29507588 Report

Quoted By: >>29508003

>>29506040
Fairy is broken by its very nature. It was designed to be strong against the commonly used powerful types and weak against types that are almost never used offensively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 22:57:11 No.29507649 Report

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>>29505966
You idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 22:58:24 No.29507680 Report

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>>29505966
... in the demo.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:04:03 No.29507818 Report

Quoted By: >>29508081

>>29506323

The only Ice-types introduced this gen are:
>Alolan Sandslash, who is already confirmed to be even slower than regular Sandslash and defensively-oriented and has two major 4x Weaknesses to both Fire and Fighting.
>Alolan Ninetales, who could potentially be okay in lower tiers if she remains decently fast, but unless Hail is buffed having Snow Warning (the likeliest option) as a HA isn't that useful.
>Yeti Crab, which is likely also slow and defensive.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:04:49 No.29507829 Report

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>>29505966
>mfw decidueye is the worst of the three
>mfw i was right all along

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:04:51 No.29507830 Report

Quoted By: >>29509088

Based Fairy remains untouched

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:07:09 No.29507868 Report

Quoted By: >>29507939

>>29505966
I'm disappointed Grass didn't get any buffs, but at least GF wasn't dumb enough to listen to Icefags who wanted Ice to resist Grass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:10:11 No.29507921 Report

Quoted By: >>29508090

>>29506323
You dumb icefags just don't get it do you. Ice doesn't suck because of its type match ups. It sucks because there's no reason to use Ice types when EVERY WATER TYPE can learn Ice Beam. Make it so that Water types can no longer learn Ice Beam, and Ice-types will be used much more often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:11:08 No.29507939 Report

Quoted By: >>29508209

>>29507868
Nah, the council of icefags has no interest in grass resistance. We seek normal and ground resistance and to lose one of our many weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:11:16 No.29507947 Report

Quoted By: >>29508111

>>29505966
>5 fairies in OU
>11 steel-types in OU

Where did this meme about fairies being OP even came from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:13:37 No.29508003 Report

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>>29507588
Still not as broken as Dragon was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:17:37 No.29508081 Report

Quoted By: >>29508977 >>29509180

>>29507818
If Alolan Sandslash keeps a decently high attack, it'll be a monster in doubles trick room teams
>Sicknasty Ice/Steel STAB combo
>Pair with Gourgeist and Trick or Treat to negate fighting weakness and gain Ghost STAB for perfect coverage
>Most likely slower than Gourgeist, which means it can pull off the Trick or Treat+Shadow Claw combo in one turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:17:56 No.29508090 Report

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>>29507921
A type that doesn't resist jackshit but who, unlike normal, are full of weaknesses sucks no matter what. What you describes just make it worse, but they were already at a bad point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:19:06 No.29508111 Report

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>>29507947
Retards look at the type chart and see that Fairy is amazing in terms of type matchups, and then forget that things like base stats, abilities, movepools and dual types exist and matter more than type matchups do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:23:10 No.29508209 Report

Quoted By: >>29508531

>>29507939
I, council member Hailfag, second the motion put forth by council member Snowfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:30:25 No.29508364 Report

Quoted By: >>29508943

>>29505993
thats sugar tho

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:32:30 No.29508413 Report

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>>29505966
>Poppmaid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:34:59 No.29508460 Report

Quoted By: >>29510117

>>29505966
If that happened, Mimikyu would be double fucked by one of its own STABs, which would be bullshit. Thank god your poor idea of a nerf didn't get accepted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:38:06 No.29508531 Report

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>>29508209
I, council member Freezerfag, third the motion put forth by members Snowfag and Hailfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:49:10 No.29508817 Report

Quoted By: >>29509035

>>29506090
It really should be weak to bug in the same way as poison

It would also fit well with poison and steel because they were all bad offensive types, but fairies made their usage increase

Instead bug type moves got even worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:49:31 No.29508826 Report

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I just wanted Bug neutral against Fairy and Ice gaining ANYTHING

Damnit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:50:48 No.29508851 Report

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>>29506223
But you literally replied to a post that said incineroar is neutral to fairy. Why are you literally retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:51:34 No.29508869 Report

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>>29506223
>Its neutral to fairy
>yeah but its weak to fairy
what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:55:24 No.29508943 Report

Quoted By:

>>29508364
chop suey

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:57:12 No.29508977 Report

Quoted By: >>29510927

>>29508081
>lol just use trick room
>lol just use a fucking shitmon for trick-or-treat

If it's slower than gourgiest than trick room will make it faster

If you use trick or treat on the first turn you'll probably be dead before you can trick room

Hell you'll probably be dead on the first turn before you can move anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:58:32 No.29509002 Report

Quoted By: >>29509009 >>29509071 >>29509084

>making fairy weak to bug

Stop this meme.

How does this even make sense? Just accept that outside of a few bug is awful. Just like in real life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:59:00 No.29509009 Report

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>>29509002
no, dutygenerate is not stopped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Oct 2016 23:59:21 No.29509014 Report

Quoted By: >>29509058

>>29506223
do you have brain damage you stupid shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:00:30 No.29509035 Report

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>>29508817
There is a tale of a fairy that lived in a ravine and commanded a bunch of insects to attack horses so they would fall to their demise and the fairy will eat the human and horse bones and use some shiny stuff from the caravan.

Let me check where it comes from, but this one proves that fairies could control bugs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:00:54 No.29509041 Report

Quoted By: >>29509068 >>29509107

Will Exeggutor be a better dragon than Sceptile?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:01:34 No.29509049 Report

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And then, all they had to do, was alter the programming a tick to change the chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:01:57 No.29509058 Report

Quoted By:

>>29509014
apparently less damaged than yours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:02:19 No.29509068 Report

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>>29509041
Possibly, all depends on stat spread and move learnset.

Frisk is a whatever ability though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:02:32 No.29509071 Report

Quoted By: >>29509109 >>29509129

>>29509002
How does Fire resisting Fairy make sense? how does Steel being super-effective against Fairy make sense? Fairy was designed solely for balancing purposes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:03:11 No.29509084 Report

Quoted By: >>29509467 >>29509559

>>29509002
Girls are scared of bugs, so fairy types should be weak to bug.
Girls are weak to dragon dildoes, so fairy types should be weak to dragon types.
Girls are weak to domestic abuse, so fairy types should be weak to fighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:03:17 No.29509088 Report

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>>29507830
I'm happy. I'll finally use a Fairy Pokemon I like, and want it to be strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:03:59 No.29509107 Report

Quoted By: >>29509231

>>29509041
It could be salvageable if it can beat Steel types

Also if Dragon Hammer is what I think it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:04:02 No.29509109 Report

Quoted By: >>29509155

>>29509071
And it's perfect the way it is. Nobody fucking complains about steel. Especially when it resisted ghost and dark, even then it's still a great defensive type with few weaknesses and a lot of resistance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:04:11 No.29509113 Report

Quoted By:

>>29505966

>NO CHANGES

what did they mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:05:08 No.29509129 Report

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>>29509071
The steel interaction is the only thing that actually makes sense about fairy types.

The only reason fairy resists dark and bug if because gamefreak wanted to keep their precious mega waifu safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:06:24 No.29509155 Report

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>>29509109
>no one complains about steel
Yeah no fuck steel.
It gets a shit ton of resistances for absolutely no cost whatsoever. Only resisted by a tiny as hell amount of types while resisting half the type chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:07:17 No.29509180 Report

Quoted By: >>29509225

>>29508081

I just want Snowslash to not be a PU shitmon, and all it needs is Ice Shard and Bullet Punch 9cause I'm sure it will keep Swords Dance)

At least then it will be NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:09:11 No.29509225 Report

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>>29509180
>PU
You know there's one below it called FU, right? I hear they're in dire need of a slow, bulky Ice-type at the moment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:09:32 No.29509231 Report

Quoted By: >>29509278

>>29509107
What do you think it is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:11:42 No.29509278 Report

Quoted By: >>29509343

>>29509231
Dragon clone to Meteor Mash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:14:32 No.29509343 Report

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>>29509278
That'd be pretty fucking sweet actually.
Chance to raise attack and eveything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:20:06 No.29509467 Report

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>>29509084
kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:23:24 No.29509559 Report

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>>29509084
girls love dragon dildos, so it shouldn't change

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:50:58 No.29510117 Report

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>>29508460
God forbid one Pokémon have a double weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 00:53:43 No.29510181 Report

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>>29505995
>Thanks to Aegislash, Ghost can't have nice things and Steel has to lose nice things

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 01:30:22 No.29510927 Report

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>>29508977
You don't lead with Gourgeist you dunce.
You lead with Aromatisse to setup trick room, then switch to Gourgeist later.

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