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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 03:51:15 No.29513811 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29513872 >>29513874 >>29513916 >>29514107 >>29514134 >>29514258 >>29514800 >>29514934 >>29515004

Why are all the recent starters [people] [animal]?

>singer fish thing
>wrestler cat
>archer owl

>ninja frog
>mage fox
>knight chipmunk

The only gen 1-5 starters like this are
>samurai otter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 03:52:35 No.29513842 Report

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good question actually, the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 03:53:39 No.29513872 Report

Quoted By: >>29514757

>>29513811
Because they're now RPG classes:
>warrior
>mage
>rogue
>archer
>martial artist
>bard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 03:53:50 No.29513874 Report

Quoted By: >>29513964 >>29514115 >>29514218

>>29513811
Why not?
Also,
Emperor Penguin
Kickboxing Chiken
Warrior Pig

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 03:54:35 No.29513893 Report

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That's what was found at the bottom of the barrel after a decent amount of scraping.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 03:55:03 No.29513905 Report

Quoted By: >>29513932 >>29514153

Blaziken is like this too. Sure chickens fight but it's anthropomorphized as fuck and it's designed in a way where it looks like a human wearing a martial arts uniform.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 03:55:40 No.29513916 Report

Quoted By: >>29514025

>>29513811
Because GameFreak finally got creative and moved beyond literally my mom's animal with [insert starter element here] that just gets bigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 03:56:26 No.29513932 Report

Quoted By: >>29515050 >>29515099

>>29513905
Which is why Blaziken looks like shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 03:57:40 No.29513964 Report

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>>29513874
I can give you Blaziken and Emboar, but not Empoleon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:00:17 No.29514025 Report

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>>29513916
Delphox is the only Fire starter that isn't biped X with its Y on fire. Unless you count the stick as part of its body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:04:04 No.29514107 Report

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>>29513811
Gamefreaks running out of ideas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:04:36 No.29514115 Report

Quoted By: >>29514268

>>29513874
>Emperor Penguin
You do realize emperor penguin is an actual thing, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:05:40 No.29514134 Report

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>>29513811
>seals are fish

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:06:20 No.29514153 Report

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>>29513905
at least it's not Sawk and Throh levels of bullshit like you're implying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:09:00 No.29514213 Report

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We all know that they try to keep the starters a surprise, GF said so in an interview back in BW (Serperior wasn't a surprise though, Masuda's a hack)

We already have normal seals, quadrupedal felines and mymom'sowl, so they needed to make something different to make them special. The old Pokemon are still there.
It's not like they "ran out of ideas" like some retards say, it's the oposite. Ig noring the faxt that they already said in an interview that they design hundreds of Pokemon each generation and aren't running out of ideas, if they actually didn't have any more ideas they would've made the evolutions just bigger versions of the base form.

The RPG theme isn't present this time around, it was almost shoehorned in. Primarina is a Mermaid Sea Lion, not a Bard or Healer or whatever you want to call it. I doubt this trend will continue in gen 8, but don't expect a "it just gets bigger" evolution for the starters. They need a twist to make them feel special, and have done so since gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:09:15 No.29514218 Report

Quoted By: >>29514308

>>29513874
>Literally an Emperor Penguin
>Literally Cock Fighting
>Ok you're right about the fucking pig

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:11:23 No.29514258 Report

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>>29513811
>fish thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:11:36 No.29514268 Report

Quoted By: >>29514311 >>29514492

>>29514115
Yes, but that's just a name, they don't look like actual Emperors. Empoleon looks like a king with the trident crown, and has a tuxedo and a tie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:13:30 No.29514308 Report

Quoted By: >>29514693 >>29514786

>>29514218
C'mon, no chicken looks or fights like Blaziken. It's basically a dude in a fursuit with a bird mask. (I'm not hating, I like it)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:13:36 No.29514311 Report

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>>29514268
>they don't look like actual Emperors
Yeah they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:20:48 No.29514492 Report

Quoted By: >>29514657

>>29514268
Fair enough.
Personally I think Empoleon's design was meant to be a visual pun for the emperor penguin, so I don't really look any further than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:27:21 No.29514657 Report

Quoted By: >>29514869

>>29514492
I think that's exactly why they did it. Empoleon is my favorite starter. I was just pointing out to the OP that we have had starters with "human jobs" before the last two gens. I hope they do it one last time because it's Fire's turn to get the cool starter and Grass will get the feminine one. They don't really need the "jobs" to do that though

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:28:38 No.29514693 Report

Quoted By: >>29514735 >>29514768 >>29514815

>>29514308
Anon, Blaziken is literally a Shamo Chicken with Fire.

Shamo Chicken

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:30:14 No.29514735 Report

Quoted By: >>29514770

>>29514693
That's a big cock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:31:01 No.29514757 Report

Quoted By: >>29514800

>>29513872
but why tho

in the past the starter "themes" never really lasted for more than one generation

>Gen 1
reptile-like beasts

>Gen 2
basic, simple animal designs

>Gen 3
animals that represent their element
Sceptile = lizard -> forest -> grass
Swampert = axololtl -> weird fish tadpole thing that lives in muddy ponds -> water/ground
Blaziken = chicken fighter thing -> I don't fucking know I'm just regurgitating shit I read the last time this thread came up -> fire/fighting

>Gen 4
legends and myths about the earth, etc.

>Gen 5
social classes or something
Serperior = French noble
Emboar = asian warlord
Samurott = samurai

>Gen 6
RPG classes

>Gen 7
RPG classes, again

why did this have to happen again? I don't really play any RPGs besides Pokemon; how many classes are left?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:31:33 No.29514768 Report

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>>29514693
This makes me uncomfortable.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:31:33 No.29514770 Report

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>>29514735
Are you proud you got to that first

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:32:25 No.29514786 Report

Quoted By: >>29514837

>>29514308
Anon, it's a fucking Shamo Chicken. They are LITERALLY BRED for cock fighting.

Know what else? They primarily kick in their fights. Guess what Blaziken's signature move was? Blaze Kick? Yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ_3mjTXUu8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:33:09 No.29514800 Report

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>>29513811
>>29514757

Gen 5 - 7 are all based on human things so I guess it makes sense that the designs are becoming more humanoid/bipedal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:33:53 No.29514815 Report

Quoted By: >>29514832

>>29514693
I know my Pokemon well anon. It still looks and fights loke a chicken, while Blaziken does not. It has a real world base, like Primarina and Decidueye, but all of them look different and more anthro/humanoid than thair counterparts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:34:35 No.29514832 Report

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>>29514815

You've obviously never seen them fight then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:35:04 No.29514837 Report

Quoted By: >>29514903

>>29514786
Well, it is still way more anthropomorphic than the other old starters. Blaziken fits better with the new starters than with the old ones.

Not saying the reference makes no sense though, its pretty cool.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:36:57 No.29514869 Report

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>>29514657
>it's Fire's turn to get the cool starter
Oi oi, did you just imply Incineroar isn't cool?

Okay, yeah, design-wise I agree.

If the whole allusion to zodiac stays true though, I really hope it'll be something like pic related.

Or Usagi Yojimbo, that's cool too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:38:46 No.29514903 Report

Quoted By: >>29515095

>>29514837
No, there's a pretty big difference between Emboar and Blaziken.

Blaziken looks like a stylized Shamo Chicken on fire.

There's no way Emboar looks only like a fucking Pig on fire. You NEED the wrestler part of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:40:55 No.29514934 Report

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>>29513811
because pokemon went to shit, that's because

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:44:49 No.29515004 Report

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>>29513811
they are easier to give cool animations to

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:47:02 No.29515050 Report

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>>29513932
I would more specifically say the disco pants and weird flat hair are why blaziken looks like shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:48:25 No.29515077 Report

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>emperor penguin
>soldier pig
>king snake

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:49:20 No.29515095 Report

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>>29514903
>looks like a stylized Shamo Chicken on fire

I don't think were looking at the same Blaziken. It looks like a dude with a mask. Those cocks do fight something fierce and I have seen the videos, but it's nothing close to the level of anthropomorphic as this. Emboar is exactly as much disconnected from the source material as Blaziken, but with more details.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 04:49:29 No.29515099 Report

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>>29513932
t. Swampertfag

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