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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:45:40 No.29517861 View View Reply Original Report

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Is Fire the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?

>How to make 90% of Fire Type Pokemon
>Take an animal
>Paint it red/orange
>Set it on fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:50:03 No.29517897 Report

Quoted By: >>29520761 >>29523104 >>29523770 >>29525636

Fire's a difficult type to really portray in the wild because it isn't really a natural occurrence outside of disasters

I admit there could be more variety, but for every Chandelure there's a Ninetales. It's hard coming up with variety and shit

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:51:14 No.29517908 Report

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i don't want to alarm anyone but does something seem strange about OP's banana?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:52:29 No.29517920 Report

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>>29517861

Would say Fighting. Save for the musketeers, they're all bipedal/humanoid.

Of course, since the type is themed around martial arts (human fighting techniques), they kind of have to be in order to punch and kick effectively.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:52:51 No.29517924 Report

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>>29517861
Probably. Either that or electric

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:55:01 No.29517942 Report

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>>29517861
Nope. Bug is.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:55:07 No.29517943 Report

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>>29517908
It does seem a little odd... Are they supposed to be curved like that? Something is definitely strange about it.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:56:08 No.29517953 Report

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>>29517942
>Bug
This is how I know you're not serious, have a (you).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:56:44 No.29517958 Report

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>>29517908
well yeah, it's not on fire. Why would he extinguish his banana?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:59:16 No.29517989 Report

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>>29517861
fire might be creatively devoid, but rock, steel, and ground are some of the hardest types to design for.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 07:59:23 No.29517992 Report

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>>29517942
Here's a (You), don't spend it all in one place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:02:23 No.29518020 Report

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At least they paint it red.

>take an owl
>do nothing
>call it a ghost type
Literally what were they thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:06:04 No.29518055 Report

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Still waiting for the grass/fire chilli pepper Pokémon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:08:43 No.29518087 Report

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>>29517989
Steel isn't that bad. Steampunk and robot shit give it a lot of leeway.

Ground conceptually could include anything on the ground. It's just a matter of whether or not they want it to be ground type or not. Most normal type rodents and stuff could easily be retyped to ground. It's not much harder than flying really.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:09:46 No.29518101 Report

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>>29517908
I think OP needs to see a doctor for that.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:10:53 No.29518112 Report

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>>29517942

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:11:01 No.29518116 Report

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>>29518087
>Most normal type rodents and stuff could easily be retyped to ground.
Or ghosts. Most animals have a spiritual meaning after all.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:12:09 No.29518124 Report

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>>29517908
Don't worry, it just means Diddy's supposed to pick it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:14:26 No.29518142 Report

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>>29518087
Most ground types have some kind of earth element thing going on, even Bunnelby digs holes. The hard part is separating Ground from Rock; Golurk could've been a rock type and nobody would've said "hey, I think this thing looks more like a Ground type than a Rock type"

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:20:34 No.29518191 Report

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>>29518116

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:20:38 No.29518193 Report

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>>29517861
>Is Electric the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Electric Type Pokemon
>Take an animal
>Paint it yellow
>Make it zap stuff

>Is Ice the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Electric Type Pokemon
>Take an animal
>Paint it cyan
>Put icicles on it

>Is Grass the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Grass Type Pokemon
>Take an animal
>Paint it green
>Put leaves on it

>Is Water the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Water Type Pokemon
>Take a marine animal
>Paint it blue

>Is Bug the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Bug Type Pokemon
>Take an arthropod
>Do literally nothing else

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:20:45 No.29518195 Report

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>>29518142
But Golurk is a golem made out of clay. It's perfect.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:22:03 No.29518207 Report

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>>29517861 (OP)
>Is Electric the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Electric Type Pokemon
>Take an animal
>Paint it yellow
>Make it zap stuff

>Is Ice the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Ice Type Pokemon
>Take an animal
>Paint it cyan
>Put icicles on it

>Is Grass the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Grass Type Pokemon
>Take an animal
>Paint it green
>Put leaves on it

>Is Water the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Water Type Pokemon
>Take a marine animal
>Paint it blue

>Is Bug the most creatively dry type when it comes to Pokemon designs?
>How to make 90% of Bug Type Pokemon
>Take an arthropod
>Do literally nothing else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:23:31 No.29518217 Report

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>>29517908
Yield? Go? What?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:41:46 No.29518356 Report

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>>29517942
>lets take an existing bug
>and make it bigger
this anon is right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:46:41 No.29518393 Report

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>>29518142
Ground-types are generally heavier.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 08:53:54 No.29518473 Report

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>>29517920
I think they're quite creative within those limitations. Within the fighting types they have pokemon based on Aura Manipulation, Kendo, Football, Wrestling, Sumo, Dancing, Construction Working, Capoera, and so on. Even if they almost entirely humanoid, they have a lot of working room when it comes to designing them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 09:46:04 No.29518851 Report

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>>29517989
>hardest
i c what u did there buddy don't think you're off the hook.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 09:53:32 No.29518918 Report

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>>29517908
He has a big peel :3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 09:54:39 No.29518934 Report

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>>29517924
Nah, Electric managed to churn out stuff like Luxray and Zebstrika among other things rather than relying merely on yellow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 09:59:38 No.29518986 Report

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>>29518934
Those still both have yellow though

also just animals unrelated to electricity, but with an electrical theme slapped on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 10:04:11 No.29519023 Report

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>>29518986
but very minimal, the closest you'll get to them is the edgy outlines because static and shit

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 10:07:06 No.29519048 Report

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>>29517861
But it is a really fun type to use, so I don't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 10:46:56 No.29519374 Report

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>>29517920
I know what you mean, which is a shame cause with a lil imagination, Fighting types can be any body shape
>Boa constrictor
>Fighting type
>based on grappling and body-locks/submissions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 10:52:55 No.29519435 Report

Quoted By: >>29520907

>>29517989
The problem for Rock is that GF feel they need to literally have jagged rocks on the pokemon to show that its Rock type.
Steel types usually just have some chrome colouring or a sheen to them to show they're Steel.
Rock has shown it can go this route too, with mons like Rampardos, Sudowoodo, Aerodactyl, Carracosta, Armaldo etc., to just suggest its Rock type rather than have boulderous tumors popping out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 11:07:30 No.29519569 Report

Quoted By: >>29523331

>>29517861
It also has the least variety out of all final starters
>make humanoid animal
>let it do stuff
They've done this since gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 11:59:36 No.29520137 Report

Quoted By: >>29520212 >>29520721

>>29519374
>Can't learn any punch or kick moves.

I see your imagination anon, but I just imagine it having the same move pool as Arbok.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 12:06:49 No.29520212 Report

Quoted By: >>29520360

>>29520137
>Brick Break
>Bulk Up
>Circle Throw
>Counter
>Detect
>Final Gambit
>Focus Blast
>Force Palm (Force Exert in JP)
>Hammer Arm (uses tail)
>Karate Chop
>Low Kick
>Low Sweep
>Quick Guard
>Revenge
>Reversal
>Rock Smash
>Seismic Toss
>Storm Throw
>Submission
>Superpower
>Vacuum Wave
>Vital Throw
>Wake-Up Slap

All Fighting moves that can be achieved without feet or hands; Its about the technique, not the appendage. Prinplup learns Metal Claw, remember?
Also, the boa was based on Grappling fighting styles, so it didn't need to learn any punch/kicks anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 12:20:24 No.29520360 Report

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>>29520212
Good idea. Aside from this and a beta fish though, there are nothing else

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 12:36:30 No.29520523 Report

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>>29517908
It was used as a dildo during 'that time of the month'

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 12:55:33 No.29520721 Report

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>>29520137
There was a rumor a while back that Alola Arbok would be a thing. Its ability would be like Aerilate, but for Fighting moves instead of Flying.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 12:58:54 No.29520761 Report

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>>29517897
>For every Chandelure, there's a Ninetales

What did he mean by this?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 13:10:01 No.29520907 Report

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>>29519435
Lycanroc is a good sign for me, it's a pure rock type that doesn't fit the mold of normal rock types.

add that to the fact that it looks fast and learns a priority rock move? it's exciting.

>yfw gigalith learns accelrock by breeding

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 13:41:24 No.29521269 Report

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>>29520761
Ninetales doesn't really look like it'd be a Fire-type. At least that's what I think he meant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 13:53:28 No.29521401 Report

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>>29520761
for every good design theres a bad deign or vice versa
depending on whether his taste is shit or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:39:36 No.29523054 Report

Quoted By: >>29523394

>>29517861
Charmander Japanese name means fire lizard but actually is the Japanese word for the fire salamander, an animal that middle ages Europe believed to be linked to elemental fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:41:57 No.29523104 Report

Quoted By: >>29524927

>>29521269
>>29517897
Ninetails is based on the Japanese fox spirit that is linked to fire as one of its powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:46:56 No.29523193 Report

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That's only true for Mono-fire.

Fire types rely on secondary typings for better designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:53:30 No.29523322 Report

Quoted By: >>29523384

>>29517989
They are really difficult to design because they have a huge theme overlap. Ground and rock should really have been the same thing.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:53:57 No.29523331 Report

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>>29519569
Noting humanoid about Torterra, but you're mostly right.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:56:02 No.29523363 Report

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>>29518124

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:56:17 No.29523366 Report

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>>29518356

Yes but there is a shitload of bug species to draw inspiration from. Fire only comes in one variety.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:57:03 No.29523384 Report

Quoted By: >>29523463

>>29523322
>Earth element was split into two types from the very beginning
>Air element didn't have a type at all, and still barley does as there are only a handful of wind based flying attacks, and all have poor distribution.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:57:37 No.29523394 Report

Quoted By: >>29523504

>>29523054
They still took an animal painted it orange and set it on fire - even if it is associated with fire - why isn't charmander yellow and black?

they're only associated with fire because people fought they were unaffected by fire and the secretions of their skin had the ability to put out fires.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 15:58:57 No.29523421 Report

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>>29523331
I meant fire starters as a whole. the other types have more variety

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 16:00:00 No.29523439 Report

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>>29520907
>choice band Gigalith Accelrock

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 16:01:50 No.29523463 Report

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>>29523384
This drives me nuts. Seriously, flying is a stupid concept for type when they could have used "wind" and have way more variety. Instead, we get ground and rock, which has been reduced to "Is it muddy? Ground. More of a solid concistency? Rock"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 16:03:54 No.29523496 Report

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>>29523366
And even then, fire is not reallt exploited. Most fire pokémon just follow a color pattern.

You could argue the same about electric types, but the rest of types have a concept they can work with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 16:04:13 No.29523504 Report

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>>29523394
They also thought they were born from fire (why they were so associated with fire to begin with)
>put old log on fire
>salamander that was hibernating on it comes out running

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 16:11:53 No.29523612 Report

Quoted By: >>29524172

>>29517861
Fucking hell! Now I need to backtrack again and switch to Diddy Kong..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 16:17:29 No.29523706 Report

Quoted By: >>29524682

>>29517861
Normal type
>take an animal
>leave it alone
Water type
>take a fish
>leave it alone
Rock type
>take a rock
>give it a face

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 16:20:34 No.29523770 Report

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>>29517897
>for every Chandelure there's a Ninetales
You take that back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 16:42:43 No.29524172 Report

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>>29523612
Underrated Kongment.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 17:14:51 No.29524682 Report

Quoted By: >>29524838 >>29524910

>>29523706
Fairy type
>draw a blob
>make it pink
Dragon type
>draw anything reptillian or not
>call it dragon type
Grass type
>take a plant
>make it a gecko

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 17:20:13 No.29524785 Report

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>>29517861
Electric is pretty bad too.
>take animal
>cover it in yellow and black and make jagged bolt patterns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 17:21:41 No.29524817 Report

Quoted By: >>29524947

>>29519023
>Zebstrika
>minimal
It's literally covered in jagged spiked and lightning bolt patterns. It's the least subtle design and it's one of the weaker ones of Gen V.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 17:22:57 No.29524838 Report

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>>29524682
And yet Chansey and Blissey, THE premier pink blobs of Pokemon aren't fairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 17:26:38 No.29524910 Report

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>>29524682
Dragon types usually have some kind of mythological base.

Since Thailand has a myth regarding an Elephant turning into a dragon, I can see either a new dragon line based around asian elephants or a Dragon Donphan variant happening in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 17:27:39 No.29524927 Report

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>>29523104
>Ninetails wasn't retconned to fire/fairy

possibly the biggest injustice ever in the history of pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 17:28:38 No.29524947 Report

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>>29524817
>what is a zebra?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 18:03:41 No.29525636 Report

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>>29517897
>2016
>still no fire/grass pokemon that's a charred tree

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