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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:31:47 No.29529690 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29529767 >>29529878 >>29529903 >>29530491 >>29531469

New starter Pokemon look more like NPC races you'd see in Zelda or some other fantasy series than monsters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:35:18 No.29529767 Report

Quoted By: >>29529932

>>29529690
"A monster is any creature, usually found in legends or horror fiction, that is often hideous and may produce fear or physical harm by its appearance or its actions. The word "monster" derives from Latin monstrum, meaning an aberrant occurrence, usually biological, that was taken as a sign that something was wrong within the natural order."

I don't see the problem here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:40:16 No.29529878 Report

Quoted By: >>29529927

>>29529690
Decidueye is such a warm welcome after the shit that was Chesnaught

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:41:10 No.29529893 Report

Quoted By: >>29529924 >>29529928 >>29530036 >>29530099 >>29530235 >>29532968 >>29534057 >>29534219

God Tier:
Venusaur, Infernape, Greninja, Primarina

Great Tier:
Feraligatr, Sceptile, Blaziken, Swampert, Empoleon, Decidueye, Incineroar

Good Tier:
Charizard, Torterra, Serperior

Meh Tier:
Blastoise, Typhlosion

Shit Tier:
Meganium, Emboar, Samurott, Chesnaut, Delphox

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:41:36 No.29529903 Report

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>>29529690
Define "New"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:42:30 No.29529924 Report

Quoted By: >>29529986

>>29529893
Pretty good taste. I'd personally put Sceptile and Decidueye in God tier though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:42:41 No.29529927 Report

Quoted By: >>29529950 >>29530109

>>29529878
I wish it kept its flying typing just so it could shit over chesnaught a bit more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:42:43 No.29529928 Report

Quoted By: >>29530091

>>29529893
>God Tier
>Primarina

kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:42:52 No.29529932 Report

Quoted By: >>29529959

>>29529767
Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:43:55 No.29529950 Report

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>>29529927
You mean, "so that it could never be used by anyone ever".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:44:19 No.29529959 Report

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>>29529932
>he doesn't know what autism looks like

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:45:40 No.29529986 Report

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>>29529924
Sceptile is cool, but I just have this incredibly bias for Venusaur

I think Decidueye would look eons better with an autumn themed design instead of the saturated greens they picked for its hood. But it's pretty good too, I love all the Gen VII starters, which is saying something cause I was ambivalent to their first forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:46:39 No.29530014 Report

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They've went from
>cute things that get bigger and get angry eyes
to
>slightly ugly things that change into something completely different and have about 3 concepts behind them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:47:49 No.29530036 Report

Quoted By: >>29530082

>>29529893
>"Great Tier": Swampert

the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:48:57 No.29530063 Report

Quoted By: >>29530089 >>29530114

because they've started making starters just humans in fursuits

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:49:43 No.29530082 Report

Quoted By: >>29530286

>>29530036
Swampert was a great Water starter introduced in a shit region. Certainly better than Blastoise or Samurott

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:50:10 No.29530089 Report

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>>29530063
Better than literally my mom's animal with [insert starter element here] that just gets bigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:50:12 No.29530091 Report

Quoted By: >>29532329 >>29533072

>>29529928

Stay mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:50:32 No.29530099 Report

Quoted By: >>29533401

>>29529893
Primarina actually has the best design and concept of the starters this gen, but sadly since its a feminine creature it'll never get the respect it deserves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:50:56 No.29530109 Report

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>>29529927
It still has flying moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:51:15 No.29530114 Report

Quoted By: >>29533370

>>29530063

This dumb meme again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:56:23 No.29530235 Report

Quoted By: >>29530589 >>29532442

>>29529893
WROOOONG

God Tier
Infernape, Empoleon, Sceptile

Great Tier
Decidueye, Swampert, Greninja, Blastoise,

Good Tier
Torterra Charizard

Meh Tier
Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Samurott

Shitty Garbage Tier
Magenium, Serperior, Delphox, Chesnaught

Why the fuck did you even make this Tier
Emboar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 21:58:53 No.29530286 Report

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>>29530082
alright, understandable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:01:00 No.29530339 Report

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You could say that about almost all of the starters from Gen 3 and onward.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:04:50 No.29530416 Report

Quoted By: >>29530463 >>29530763

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:06:48 No.29530463 Report

Quoted By: >>29530488 >>29530489

>>29530416
>Delphox over Infernape

>Feraligatr over Greninja

>Sceptile in mid tier

what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:08:24 No.29530488 Report

Quoted By: >>29532135 >>29532506

>>29530463
Fire/psychic > Fire/fighting

Feraligatr is cool, but Empoleon pretty much replaced him as a physical attacker, and just looks more appealing in general.

Sceptile is good, but the other grass starters are just better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:08:25 No.29530489 Report

Quoted By: >>29530525 >>29530613

>>29530463
The fact Blaziken, Greninja and Primarina are ranked as shit tier should show how much of a salty fuck they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:08:45 No.29530491 Report

Quoted By: >>29530679 >>29530735

>>29529690
Gens 1-4 have good starters with a few questionable decisions. Gen 2 gets some hate for being bland, but most people can agree they are not bad designs. Gen 5 is divisive, mostly because Emboar and Samurott change too much from their first form.

Gen 6 is mixed. Chesnaught is a terrible design, although it somehow has a fanbase. Delphox looks good in the art but the model is terrible in game. Greninja is decent but divisive, Ash-Greninja is awful.

Gen 7 is the worst overall. Fans of anthropomorphic Pokemon will love this gen, but the designs are extremely polarizing. They're more cartoonish, gender specific, and all humanoid. There's nothing at all for fans of more monster-like design and they all abandon their first forms designs completely. Incineroar is okay on its own, but in the context of all the other fire types it's lacking. Decidueye looks like a anime trope with a hoodie, ghost typing doesn't really make sense. Primarina is devianart-tier and looks exclusively female.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:10:24 No.29530525 Report

Quoted By: >>29530580 >>29530597

>>29530489
No? I just don't like them. Fighting chicken was always a weird design, Greninja is a really weird design when we have better toads to fill the niche like Politoad and the whole poli line.

Primarina is just too weird for me. It looks too human, and mermaid like then being an actual pokemon. I was on board with poplio and maybe even brione, but the design just tanked after that.

Only salty one here is you for assuming i have ill intentions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:13:07 No.29530580 Report

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>>29530525
>too human

Dude, it's a seal with hair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:13:31 No.29530589 Report

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>>29530235
You didn't even rate Incineroar or Primarina dumbass

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:14:11 No.29530597 Report

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>>29530525
If you're going to be saying they're you're least favorites, maybe you should call the tier something other than shit which itself implies you either actively dislike/hate the designs in the first place

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:15:00 No.29530613 Report

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>>29530489
I actually dont like primmarina, I dont like the big red clown nose, it just looks goofy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:17:40 No.29530679 Report

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>>29530491
>Primarina is devianart-tier

Ebin.

>and looks exclusively female.

How is this bad? Some starters look exculsively male.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:17:45 No.29530685 Report

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>>29530589
Oops sorry, those 2 are in meh

Venusaur is too, forgot about that lad too.

mb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:20:06 No.29530735 Report

Quoted By: >>29530990

>>29530491
>they all abandon their first forms designs completely.

Explain.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:21:29 No.29530763 Report

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>>29530416
I'd rate it like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:30:44 No.29530990 Report

Quoted By: >>29531033 >>29531074

>>29530735
Rowlett is a fairly normal owl with a bow tie, Dartrix takes it a bit further and makes him refined, and then Decidueye becomes an edgy hoodie archer with glasses.

Litten is a fairly normal cat, maybe even a little apathetic or smug looking. Torracat gets a bell on its neck and looks more like a big cat. Incineroar out of nowhere becomes a dark type bipedal wrestler with tons of personality.

Popplio is like a regular seal that is clown-like, Brionne becomes a feminine idol, and Primarina is a semi-humanoid female diva design.

Basically looking at the first forms I would expect something completely different from the final forms, and it doesn't seem like they really fit the initial designs which were more normal animals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:32:42 No.29531033 Report

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>>29530990
I'd argue Rowlett definitely is a great shift in design, but Torracat and Brionne look almost exactly like smaller versions of their final evos

If anything, the moment they were shown off it pretty much confirmed the leak designs for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:34:27 No.29531074 Report

Quoted By: >>29531256

>>29530990
>Chikorita looks nothing like Meganium
>Tepig looks nothing like Emboar
>Oshawott looks nothing like Samurott
>Fennekin looks nothing like Delphox
>Chespin looks nothing like Chesnaught

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:44:07 No.29531256 Report

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>>29531074
I didn't say it hadn't been done before, and I disagree on Chikorita, Chespin, and Fennekin.

I think Emboar and Samurott are decent designs, but I also dislike how they changed from their first forms.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 22:55:12 No.29531469 Report

Quoted By: >>29531687 >>29531954

>>29529690
Out of all the water types, Samurott is the best design. Yet it get hated because assholes don't have either taste nor the skills to use it right. Yet Gerninja is love because it's broken 2nd ability and not for it's shitty design.

If Gerninja had a weak 2nd ability, no one would of use it at all. It's true!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:06:20 No.29531687 Report

Quoted By: >>29531852 >>29531858 >>29531958

>>29531469
We hate it because of the design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:12:31 No.29531852 Report

Quoted By: >>29531958

>>29531687
This

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:12:53 No.29531858 Report

Quoted By: >>29532049

>>29531687
Then you sir have shit taste and no artistic skills what so ever.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:16:10 No.29531954 Report

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>>29531469
>he likes Samurott

You could've just typed "I have shit taste" and saved us a few seconds of reading, you know.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:16:18 No.29531958 Report

Quoted By: >>29532049

>>29531687
>>29531852
Will then, fuck off ya no talent edgy worshipers.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:20:15 No.29532049 Report

Quoted By: >>29532645 >>29533071

>>29531858
>>29531958
I'm an artist and I don't like Samurott

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:23:22 No.29532135 Report

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>>29530488
>Empoleon pretty much replaced him as a physical attacker
> Not knowing that Empoleon is Specially Offensive
> Not knowing that Feraligatr can abuse Sheer Force Life Orb

(but i do personally prefer Empoleon)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:31:34 No.29532329 Report

Quoted By: >>29532395

>>29530091
Stay with plebeian taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:34:13 No.29532395 Report

Quoted By:

>>29532329

Ebin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:36:30 No.29532442 Report

Quoted By:

>>29530235
shit taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:39:56 No.29532506 Report

Quoted By: >>29532715

>>29530488
>Fire/psychic
>with no move pool or ability to compliment it's typing
>stats are pretty much shit as well

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:46:28 No.29532645 Report

Quoted By:

>>29532049
if you drew that, then i wouldn't call you a artist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2016 23:50:40 No.29532715 Report

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>>29532506

Delphox's movepool is fine for a Fire-type, it has what it needs

Stats are okay too (114 Sp. Atk, 100 Sp. Def, 104 Speed)

Real problem is that it's just outclassed

It actually has the highest BST of the Kalos starters (534 to Chesnaught and Greninja's 530)

In terms of viability, Greninja > Chesnaught > Delphox, but it weren't for Protean, it'd be Chesnaught > Delphox > Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:02:18 No.29532968 Report

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>>29529893
Let me fix that. This only takes into account design

God Tier:
Greninja, Decidueye, Infernape, Serperior

Great Tier:
Ferraigatr, Sceptile, Charizard, Incineroar, Empoleon,

Good Tier:
Primarina, Blaziken, Torterra, Blastoise, Venusaur

Meh Tier:
Typholsion, Swampert, Meganium

Shit Tier:
Samurott, Emboar, Delphox, Chesnaut

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:07:04 No.29533071 Report

Quoted By: >>29533654

>>29532049
I'm a professional game artist, and I like Samurott. I didn't at first, but now I do. He looks like a monster, with teeth and claws, like old Pokémon should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:07:10 No.29533072 Report

Quoted By: >>29533186

>>29530091
Quoth the butthurt one, who rushes to the defense of a pokemon with the same exact reply everytime because other people have conflicting opinions, and you have to project.

>assmad shitposting drone detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:12:42 No.29533186 Report

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>>29533072
>/vp/ is one person

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:13:45 No.29533205 Report

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wtf I love these starters now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:17:03 No.29533287 Report

Quoted By: >>29535071

This is purely based on designs, btw.

God Tier:
>Feraligatr
>Swampert
>Torterra
Great Tier:
>Venasaur
>Typhlosion
>Sceptile
>Blaziken
>Empoleon
>Serperior
>Emboar
Good Tier:
>Charizard
>Blastoise
>Meganium
>Infernape
>Greninja
Okay Tier:
>Chesnaught
>Delphox
>Robinhoot
Bad Tier:
>Tony the Tiger
>Poppmaid

still not used to their official names

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:20:00 No.29533370 Report

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>>29530114
>meme
But it's real?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:21:10 No.29533401 Report

Quoted By: >>29533724 >>29533835 >>29533979

>>29530099
>best design and concept
>a POP STAR seal
>wearing a dress and makeup because "it's a girl xD"
>good design and concept
??????????

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:27:47 No.29533547 Report

Quoted By: >>29533754

I'm just doing 3 tiers. 3 correct tiers.

>Great tier
Venusaur, Blastoise, Charizard, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Sceptile, Blaziken, Swampert, Torterra

>Meh tier
Meganium, Infernape, Empoleon, Serperior, Chesnaught, Greninja, Dicksinmyeye

>Feces tier
Emboar, Samurott, Delphox, Tigre, tranny seal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:33:09 No.29533654 Report

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>>29533071
You actually just changed my opinion of Samurott.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:33:27 No.29533659 Report

Quoted By: >>29533690

>best tier
Charizard, Typhlosion, Blastoise, Ferligatr

>meh tier
Everyone else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:34:46 No.29533690 Report

Quoted By: >>29533733

>>29533659
Feraligatr is so raw. I hope we get a Pokemon as bad ass as that in the next starter roster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:36:11 No.29533724 Report

Quoted By: >>29533891

>>29533401
>completey overlooking the obvious siren concept and being one of those retards who thinks they made it "girly" for no resson

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:36:26 No.29533733 Report

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>>29533690
All we'll ever get now is furrybait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:37:16 No.29533754 Report

Quoted By: >>29533835

>>29533547
>le tranny seal

Opinion discarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:41:24 No.29533835 Report

Quoted By: >>29535097

>>29533754
See: >>29533401

I'm not just meming. There's just no point in making fun of that thing or people who like it anymore. What hasn't been said? I'll let the bronies revel in their new fapbait. I'll meanwhile be using Vikavolt or Lurantis or even le toucan as my starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:43:36 No.29533891 Report

Quoted By: >>29534050

>>29533724
>siren inspired Pokémon
>draw a seal in a wig and mascara
LMAO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:45:04 No.29533915 Report

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Great taste coming through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:48:22 No.29533979 Report

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>>29533401
>it's bad if I trivialize the design to death

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:51:48 No.29534050 Report

Quoted By: >>29534188

>>29533891

(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:52:05 No.29534057 Report

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>>29529893
I disagree with, but respect, your tastes.

I'd probably say something like
>Top Tier
Torterra, Venusaur, Greninja

>Great Tier
Typhlosion, Sceptile, Decidueye, Emboar, Feraligatr, Incineroar

>Good Tier
Infernape, Empoleon, Serperior, Delphox, Primarina, Charizard

>Meh-ganium Tier
Meganiumm, Blastoise

>I don't particularly care for these personally but that's okay Tier
Samurott, Swampert, Chesnaught, Blaziken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 00:58:54 No.29534188 Report

Quoted By: >>29534496

>>29534050
What about it makes it a good "siren" design? That it's drawn to look female?

Top kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 01:01:00 No.29534219 Report

Quoted By: >>29534405

>>29529893
God Tier:
Every starter ever made

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 01:11:46 No.29534405 Report

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>>29534219
This except meganium in shit tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 01:17:18 No.29534496 Report

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>>29534188

What's the point? Even if I pointed out those things to you, you'd just continue to shallowly nitpick its design to make it sound worse than it actually is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 01:50:55 No.29535071 Report

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>>29533287
>Swampert
>God Tier

>Primarina
>Bad tier

Gas chamber it is then.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2016 01:52:29 No.29535097 Report

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>>29533835
>Not using Fapbait
>Using Lurantis

You fucked up anon.

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