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>>29566019
>Incineroar will be a slow defensive shitmon
>It will be a worse Emboar movepool wise
Littenfags are now allowed to mass suicide.
Into PU it goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:48:30 No.29566846 Report

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>>29566824
Some guy said this would end up being Emboar 2.0 and for the looks of it, it will be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:49:41 No.29566859 Report

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>>29566811
You're a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:50:58 No.29566877 Report

Quoted By: >>29567447

>>29566811
>pls screencap me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:52:01 No.29566885 Report

Quoted By: >>29567447

>>29566811
Include me in le screencap xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:53:34 No.29566897 Report

Quoted By: >>29566917 >>29566937 >>29566954

>>29566824
Litten is clearly the fastest of trio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:55:29 No.29566912 Report

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>>29566796
Infernape got 12 HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:56:02 No.29566917 Report

Quoted By: >>29566953 >>29567072 >>29571127

>>29566897
>pokemon has never changed stat spreads ever when they evolve
Fuck off.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:57:58 No.29566937 Report

Quoted By: >>29566953 >>29568176 >>29571127

>>29566897
>Wingul is fest XDDDDD
>Pelipur musz hav sanic sped xddddddddd

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:59:23 No.29566953 Report

Quoted By: >>29566971

>>29566917
>>29566937
starters are straightforward

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 11:59:31 No.29566954 Report

Quoted By: >>29567072 >>29571127

>>29566897
Swampert sure has the highest Atk stat of all the Hoenn starters, am I right ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:00:35 No.29566971 Report

Quoted By: >>29571127

>>29566953
>b-but starters! t-there's no way gf would break trends like starters having the same stats from start to end!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:06:54 No.29567019 Report

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>>29566019
90HP @lv31 is anywhere between 32 and 79 HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:13:16 No.29567072 Report

Quoted By: >>29567083 >>29567272

>>29566954
>>29566917
This logic is flawed. Just because Swampert doesn't have the highest attack stat doesn't mean his attack isn't high. This same thing could apply to Incineroar. Litten has a high speed stat so this will most likely carry over to Incineroar.

It might not be the fastest, but to assume it will be a slow bulky attacker is dumb too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:14:48 No.29567083 Report

Quoted By: >>29567132 >>29567296 >>29569807

>>29567072
Yeah, because Incineroar sure looks like it's faster than anything. It don't look as though it will be slow as molasses, especially with these shitty stumpy legs. Surely it will not be a slow bulky attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:19:23 No.29567132 Report

Quoted By: >>29567138

>>29567083
Yeah man, Delphox sure looks like a speedy pokemon, that 104 base speed is something you should definitely expect from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:20:09 No.29567138 Report

Quoted By: >>29567193 >>29567268 >>29567296 >>29568889

>>29567132
104 is still fairly fast. Incineroar's speed will be 60 maximum because it don't look one point faster than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:22:09 No.29567154 Report

Quoted By: >>29567171

>>29566019
HP: 90
Attack: 115
Defense: 85
Sp.Atk: 90
Sp.Def: 75
Speed: 80

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:23:55 No.29567171 Report

Quoted By: >>29569681

>>29567154
That's quite high for a mid-evo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:25:28 No.29567193 Report

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>>29567138
>Not understanding sarcasm

You're telling me that you actually think Delphox looks faster Blaziken and Lucario? You actually think Delphox looks like a pokemon that should have a base speed of 104? It's almost as fast Infernape man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:31:43 No.29567268 Report

Quoted By: >>29567328

90 HP at level 31 can be as low as 64 assuming max IVs(which we have seen on a few mons, I believe?)

>>29567138
Litten's base speed is 60 at the lowest, but most likely closer to 70, so nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:32:18 No.29567272 Report

Quoted By: >>29567420

>>29567072
If Incineroar has amazing speed from Litten and decent HP from Torracat, then either its highest stats are HP and Speed, or it has 100+ in 4 different stats. Both options are pretty unrealistic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:34:29 No.29567296 Report

Quoted By: >>29567398

>>29567083
>>29567138
Reminder that this thing has 112 speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:37:04 No.29567328 Report

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>>29567268
Actually base 32 is possible with max EVs and IVs
Obviously it won't be 32 but its totally possible to have 90 HP with base 32.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:43:05 No.29567398 Report

Quoted By: >>29567418 >>29567444 >>29569158

>>29567296
This!

Cat Pokemon speed stat:

Persian: 115, highest stat
Purugly: 112, highest stat
Delcatty: 70, highest stat (its a ledian tier shitmon which is beyond saving)
Liepard: 106, highest stat

Conclusion: GF thinks that cats are fast (well they are not the slowest creatures irl).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:44:25 No.29567418 Report

Quoted By: >>29567460

>>29567398
But all of those are quadrupedal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:44:30 No.29567420 Report

Quoted By: >>29567477 >>29567516 >>29567599

>>29567272
A stat spread along the lines of:

HP:85
Attack: 120
Defense:65
Sp. Attack:95
Sp. Defense:60
Speed: 105

is not very unlikely

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:45:31 No.29567431 Report

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>>29566796
>muh pattern
how that's flying grass owl going with you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:46:02 No.29567444 Report

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>>29567398
You forgot Luxray which is better example for Torracat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:46:23 No.29567447 Report

Quoted By: >>29567493 >>29567513

>>29566859
>>29566885
>>29566877

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:47:15 No.29567460 Report

Quoted By: >>29567599

>>29567418
The fastest Pokemon, Deoxys-Speed, is bipedal.
Sceptile is bipedal.
Electrode has no legs at all.

Quadrupedal is the worst meme, also there were no bipedal catmons before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:48:53 No.29567477 Report

Quoted By: >>29567613 >>29567637

>>29567420
So I guess Decidueye really could turn out the fastest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:50:12 No.29567493 Report

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>>29567447
You're the dumbass here, friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:50:24 No.29567497 Report

Quoted By: >>29568210 >>29569436

>>29567444
I always genuinely thought it was a mouse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:51:38 No.29567513 Report

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>>29567447
That scenario already happened here before. Lmao. Surprised to see some took the bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:52:11 No.29567516 Report

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>>29567420
That would be great. It would be even better if it dropped some special attack as it evolves for defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:54:33 No.29567541 Report

Quoted By: >>29567611

>>29566019
Its gonna be a slow, frail mixed sweeper with high HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:57:45 No.29567582 Report

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>>29566019
Its gonna be a fast, frail mixed sweeper with low HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:58:36 No.29567599 Report

Quoted By: >>29567628

>>29566019
90 at level 31 could be anywhere from 80 to 33

0 IVs 0 EVs level 31 base 80 HP = 90 HP
31 IVs 252 EVs level 31 base 33 HP = 90 HP
Learn to calc.

More likely is 64-80 HP, which is the IV ranges with no EVs. As I don't think trailer pokemon have EVs usually.
>>29567420
That seems likely, if a little less attack. Can't be having a starter be too good now can we.

>>29567460
What are Meowth and Purrlion for 500 alex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:59:52 No.29567611 Report

Quoted By: >>29567665

>>29567541
>Mixed offense
>Huge HP
>Bad deffences
It's Emboar all over again.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 12:59:56 No.29567613 Report

Quoted By: >>29567711

>>29567477
Could be. We know nothing of stats for Rowlet beyond HP and being slower than Litten. But it could be similar to the Torchic/Mudkip case where it's only by a few points and Decidueye ends up surpassing Incineroar for speed in the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:01:10 No.29567628 Report

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>>29567599
I should have said "fully evolved"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:01:51 No.29567635 Report

Quoted By: >>29567669

Incineroar will have Charizard stats but with SpAtk and Atk swapped

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:02:14 No.29567637 Report

Quoted By: >>29568947

>>29567477
I actually think it will, because of the official website saying describing it as astonishingly fast.

I like Decidueye and am really happy it's likely going to be good. I just wonder why, instead of making only one Pokemon really good Like Greninja,they don't try to make more Pokemon as good as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:04:47 No.29567665 Report

Quoted By: >>29567674

>>29567611
Torracat likely has monferno tier HP, definitely less than Pignite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:05:13 No.29567669 Report

Quoted By: >>29567672 >>29567756

>>29567628
You should have but you didn't, now you suffer autism.

>>29567635
You sure it wont have exactly the same stats as charizard like typhlosion does? They'd do it. Again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:06:08 No.29567672 Report

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>>29567669
Its your autism makes you saying this stuff you nerd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:06:27 No.29567674 Report

Quoted By: >>29567691

>>29567665
Pignite has Base 90 HP.

Torracat could have 64, which would be lower than Tepig's 65.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:08:00 No.29567691 Report

Quoted By: >>29567712

>>29567674
And it somehow contradicts what I said?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:10:52 No.29567711 Report

Quoted By: >>29568862

>>29567613
Don't grass types always get the lowest BST?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:11:00 No.29567712 Report

Quoted By: >>29567723

>>29567691

No? I was backing you up.

Monferno has 64 HP exactly for that matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:12:29 No.29567723 Report

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>>29567712
Guess I'm being autistic after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:15:50 No.29567756 Report

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>>29567669
>You sure it wont have exactly the same stats as charizard like typhlosion does? They'd do it. Again.
Also very possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:51:48 No.29568127 Report

Quoted By: >>29568157 >>29568651

>implying any of the starters outside of the "preferred" ones are gonna have viable stats

Owl is going to be GF's baby this gen so it will have broken stats, much like Greninja, Infernape, Blaziken and Charizard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:54:38 No.29568157 Report

Quoted By: >>29568187 >>29568196 >>29568956

>>29568127
We already know that Tiger is going to be the baby. It's going to be the one put forth by the anime.

Leak art tells us this already. Inceniroar is going to be in his 3rd form while the other two are still in their first form in the anime. Just like Greninja, charzard and infernape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:56:11 No.29568176 Report

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>>29566937
Might as well use Escavilier if you're going the stupid examples route.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:56:51 No.29568187 Report

Quoted By: >>29568447 >>29568586

>>29568157
Litten is owned by no one in the anime and Ash owns Rowlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:57:31 No.29568194 Report

Quoted By: >>29568833

>>29567019
Trailer Pokemon always have 0 IVs and EVs in everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:57:40 No.29568196 Report

Quoted By: >>29568956

>>29568157
You know they could've just done that as some comedic scene ? Like size comparison and playing a small joke in the same time ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 13:59:00 No.29568210 Report

Quoted By: >>29569012

>>29567497
It's a Lynx.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:19:08 No.29568447 Report

Quoted By: >>29568580

>>29568187
Proof: zero

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:29:54 No.29568580 Report

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>>29568447
>he hasn't seen the poster

there's a reason Rowlet has a highlight along with Ash and Pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:30:24 No.29568586 Report

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>>29568187
It clearly looks like Litten will be the new Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:35:43 No.29568651 Report

Quoted By: >>29568677

>>29568127
Did you watch the latest trailers? Litten is given special treatment.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:37:48 No.29568677 Report

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>>29568651
>gets stomped over
>special treatment

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:39:42 No.29568698 Report

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>>29566019
Shit thats a lot higher than Litten's base HP (~41).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:53:43 No.29568833 Report

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>>29568194
In one of latest trailers there is lv50 Lucario with 138 HP while 0iv 0ev Lucario should have 130 HP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:57:00 No.29568862 Report

Quoted By: >>29568884 >>29569992 >>29571252

>>29568677
I noticed the overlapping closeness but not the highlight. Damn, that more or less confirms Rowlet as Ash's. Litten is getting a lot of screentime, too. Rowlet definitely has "the look" of the favored child, but who knows.

>>29567711
Just looked it up. Never realized...that's some bullshit. Maybe it's time for a change. Break one more pattern and make Decidueye the "strongest."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:58:53 No.29568884 Report

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>>29568862
most likely Icnineroar is just for a gag shot or something

sucks too, because personally I like him the best, but obviously Decidueye is GF's baby this time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 14:59:29 No.29568889 Report

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>>29567138
Tyranitar is one point faster than that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:04:35 No.29568947 Report

Quoted By: >>29569017 >>29569027 >>29569028

>>29567637
Magician is a retarded ability and Mystical Fire is weak, but otherwise Delphox is a great pokemon. Its biggest flaw, if anything, is being a Psychic type.

They'd have to give Primarina Kingdra stats in order for it to suck. If it has a single stat under 80 (which it will, it's obscenely slow) it'll be UU possibly, and grace (pun intended) OU if given a good Hidden ability and movepool combination.

Pic unrelated just checking it out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:05:38 No.29568956 Report

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>>29568157
>>29568196
I dont disagree with you but there's a chance,in my mind, that the mid evos weren't finalized yet so they left them unevolved.

But Unova proves otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:08:47 No.29568986 Report

Quoted By: >>29569016 >>29569022

>>29568677
The latest Japanese trailers for the video game, you dunce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:11:40 No.29569012 Report

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>>29568210
it's a lion. Its lore is based on the mythical lynx.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:11:59 No.29569016 Report

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>>29568986
Send link please

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:12:00 No.29569017 Report

Quoted By: >>29569050

>>29568947
Delphox problem is the shitty movepool it has. Bad HA, and signature attack the designer hate this starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:12:57 No.29569022 Report

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>>29568986
the original argument was using anime for reference

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:13:30 No.29569027 Report

Quoted By: >>29569050

>>29568947
We know it gets Aqua Jet at least, and probably Scald

Hyper Voice too for that great coverage with Water

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:13:36 No.29569028 Report

Quoted By: >>29569053 >>29569085

>>29568947
Update to Incineroar's predicted spread. My only hope is that I at least get the orientation correct; Mixed, good HP with physical bias

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:15:26 No.29569050 Report

Quoted By: >>29569069 >>29569093

>>29569017
Mystical Fire is actually extremely good.
It's just a low BP. Bump it up to 80 or 90 BP and it'll be an easy staple attack

>>29569027
Are you implying Pixilate because thats a bit too wishful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:15:44 No.29569053 Report

Quoted By: >>29569159

>>29569028
>Speed that low
enjoy your base 69 maximum Decidueye

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:16:01 No.29569056 Report

Quoted By: >>29569078

Rate my spreads

Decidueye:
HA: Stakeout

85/110/70/85/70/115

Primarina
HA: Dazzling
95/85/100/100/100/55

Infernroar
HA: Contrary/Defiant
88/125/80/80/60/102

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:17:06 No.29569069 Report

Quoted By: >>29569099

>>29569050
>make it stronger than flamethrower and people will use it
NO WAY, UNBELIEVABLE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:17:56 No.29569078 Report

Quoted By: >>29569109

>>29569056
Bad

Popplio has shit attack and they're abandoning the mixed starter meme for the most part, and Rowlet still has the highest HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:18:28 No.29569085 Report

Quoted By: >>29569141 >>29569159 >>29569223 >>29569308

>>29569028
The Japanese starter final evolution trailer showed Incineroar with 160 HP at level 50. That's base 100 with no investment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:19:07 No.29569093 Report

Quoted By: >>29569227

>>29569050
No, Water/Normal is actually great coverage

only thing that comes to mind that resists it is Ferrothorn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:19:43 No.29569099 Report

Quoted By: >>29569109 >>29569362

>>29569069
Flamethrower is 95 BP retard. 80 isn't even that high. On top of that, flamethrower has the burn chance, which cuts attack in half and deals damage every turn, compared to a chance to lower Sp. Attack by 1 stage (33%), which can be fixed by literally just switching out anyway, whereas Burn's attack drop (50%) has to be healed manually or die

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:20:16 No.29569109 Report

Quoted By: >>29569164 >>29569182 >>29569185

>>29569078
A non-legendary ghost type with high HP is never going to happen.
>>29569099
They nerfed the BP of flamethrower, lad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:20:17 No.29569110 Report

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>>29566811
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:23:40 No.29569141 Report

Quoted By: >>29569275

>>29569085
Link? What time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:24:35 No.29569158 Report

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>>29567398
Entei is 100
Raikou is 115
Espeon 110
Umbreon is 60~
Sylveon is 60~
Pyroar is 109?
Solgaleo better be at least 105

I just hope Incineroar can learn Sword Dance like Pangoro and will definitely ahace Sucker Punch and Knock Off access.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:24:40 No.29569159 Report

Quoted By: >>29569179 >>29569242 >>29569275

>>29569085
There.

>>29569053
I dont think litten gets much faster as it evolves. Dartrix might be a bit slow but I'm pretty sure it'll speed up.
I could see Luchalitten having a higher speed stat though but then its "literally blaziken" except 90 Sp.At 100 HP instead of 110/80

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:25:15 No.29569164 Report

Quoted By: >>29569183 >>29569197

>>29569109
>Forgetting the man himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:26:22 No.29569179 Report

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>>29569159
Why are you expecting high Special Attack?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:26:41 No.29569182 Report

Quoted By: >>29569196

>>29569109

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:26:49 No.29569183 Report

Quoted By: >>29569197 >>29569204

>>29569164
>89 is high
Drifblim is literally the only example

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:26:54 No.29569185 Report

Quoted By: >>29569213 >>29569522

>>29569109
It's not a ghost, though.I think Sun and Moon are the first games to give the Ghost typing to Channelers like AlolaWak and Decidueye. Also that one bird
Also I dont care to screenshot but Jellicent has base 100 HP
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Jellicent_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:27:52 No.29569196 Report

Quoted By: >>29569228

>>29569182
>the only ghost type
Not to mention its gets the HP stat from its flying type and not the ghost typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:27:56 No.29569197 Report

Quoted By: >>29569239

>>29569164
89 isnt that good but its definitely better than most ghosts.

>>29569183
Literally Jellicent fuck off

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:28:05 No.29569201 Report

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>>29566811
HI LEDDIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:28:10 No.29569204 Report

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>>29569183
It's very high for a 480 BST shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:29:04 No.29569213 Report

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>>29569185
It's a ghost type.
There's been plenty of ghost types before that aren't actual dead things.
The first ghost line was a literal living shadow/gas cloud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:29:27 No.29569223 Report

Quoted By: >>29569275

>>29569085
I just watched the English and Japanese trailer multiple times, nowhere did it show the levels nor the hp of the starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:29:47 No.29569227 Report

Quoted By: >>29569447 >>29569485

>>29569093
>using non-stab normal ever in competitive

how does it feel to be retarded?

(you)

(you) Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:29:54 No.29569228 Report

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>>29569196
(you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:30:47 No.29569239 Report

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>>29569197
Jellicent's ghost typing was literally added last minute according to interviews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:31:04 No.29569242 Report

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>>29569159

I dont think litten gets much faster as it evolves

60 is the minimum likely speed of Litten, it would need to stay at the same speed or even get slower to end up like that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:31:09 No.29569244 Report

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@29566811
you dont deserve the (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:31:22 No.29569251 Report

Quoted By: >>29569266 >>29569287 >>29569322

Litten3 on latest japanese trailer: 158 HP at level 50
That's around 81 HP assuming 31 IV and no EV
Which is not too high if you ask me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:32:57 No.29569266 Report

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>>29569251
Or 100+ with 0 IVs.
If you don't post the range, the calc is meaningless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:33:30 No.29569275 Report

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>>29569141
>>29569159
>>29569223
Okay, after rewatching the japanese trailer, I am mistaken. They blurred it really good, and it kinda looked like 160 to me. It was 0:45, when it was facing Slowbro. It was the only one of the starters to keep the HP bar behind it before using their signature moves. Sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:34:12 No.29569287 Report

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>>29569251
Hovering around 80 seems about right
not frail, but not bulky either

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:36:18 No.29569308 Report

Quoted By: >>29569320

>>29569085

Did we see the other two's HP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:37:31 No.29569320 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569308
Nope. They hid the HP bars for them when using their signature moves. Only Incineroar kept his bar for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:37:41 No.29569322 Report

Quoted By: >>29569336 >>29569441

>>29569251
Link or screenshot please

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:39:11 No.29569336 Report

Quoted By: >>29569411

>>29569322
Here you go raging homosexual:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuiDXEK3lL4
at ~0:45

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:41:12 No.29569362 Report

Quoted By: >>29569463

>>29569099
Mystical fire always lowers Sp. Attack, so it's more reliable than burning with flamethrower.
If only it was a spread move, I would have used it more in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:44:37 No.29569411 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569336
Also his signature move does over half to ~equally levelled Slowbro.
May be 100+ BP

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:46:12 No.29569436 Report

Quoted By:

>>29567497

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:46:24 No.29569441 Report

Quoted By: >>29569492 >>29569694

So I guess I was doubly wrong with the numbers being unblurred during the move text. And I got the wrong numbers.

>>29569322
You can just barely see the see it through the text of Incineroar using Darkness Lariat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:47:08 No.29569447 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569227
>90 base power Special attack that compliments Water well
>bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:48:30 No.29569463 Report

Quoted By: >>29569523

>>29569362
>>29569362
oh right it is 100% chance isnt it, i thought it was 30.

Is it true they nerfed Flamethrower or is anon using a Good Rod

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:49:54 No.29569485 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569227
>using exclusively stab moves
lmao@ur life

Metagross doesnt even use Psychic moves, usually, unless it wants to fish for Zen Headbutt flinches with a Scarf or an Agility up (Rock Polish too, i guess.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:50:12 No.29569492 Report

Quoted By: >>29569595

>>29569441
nice. So base 98 or 99 HP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:51:50 No.29569510 Report

Quoted By: >>29569530

>if I bulked up muscle wise, I could be a real-life Luchalitten
I didnt know I want this but now I do

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:53:06 No.29569522 Report

Quoted By: >>29569547

>>29569185
AloWak is dead though, Cubone's mother always dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:53:08 No.29569523 Report

Quoted By: >>29569547

>>29569463
Yeah, they nerfed the elemental beams from 95 base power to 90, and the stronger versions from 120 to 110.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:53:30 No.29569530 Report

Quoted By: >>29569566

>>29569510
5'11 with massive sideburns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:54:48 No.29569547 Report

Quoted By: >>29569645

>>29569523
Ah. Okay i thought anon was trying to say Flamethrower got nerfed to 80.

>>29569522
It's not though quit being a retard. It channels the island spirits and summons spectral flames to protect Cubones from grass types that cover the island and threaten the ground-type infants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:56:31 No.29569566 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569530
No on the side burns, yes on the 5'11.

I suppose a simpler solution would be to construct a ~55lb fursuit, putting most of the weight in the chest "muscles" and the tail.
Maybe the belt could be metal.
Would it be technically a fursuit, or a cosplay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:57:02 No.29569576 Report

Quoted By:

If Inceineroar has near a 100HP base I'm jumping off a cliff, because for starters thats a bad sign in terms of their base speed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 15:58:36 No.29569595 Report

Quoted By: >>29569616

>>29569492
If 0 ev and 31 iv that's about 81
If that's 0iv and 0ev then around 98
If 252/31 then 53 or something (not gonna happen for sure)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:00:06 No.29569616 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569595
(I tried to calculate estimated power of its signature move but then I realized that it can be too wide spread depending on many circumstances. It could be from 50 to 120)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:02:44 No.29569645 Report

Quoted By: >>29569690

>>29569547
Cubone's pokedex says it is wearing it's mother's skull, Cubone is visually wearing it. The mother always dies but thanks for the retard comment when you don't even know about Cubone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:05:14 No.29569681 Report

Quoted By:

>>29567171
>535 BST
>mid-evo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:05:42 No.29569690 Report

Quoted By: >>29569785

>>29569645
Marowaks shed their skulls as they outgrow them.
They give their discarded skulls to their children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:05:51 No.29569694 Report

Quoted By: >>29569736 >>29569738

>>29569441
It's 158 HP.

Which means Base HP: min 83 max 98 average 91 (best guess).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:08:56 No.29569736 Report

Quoted By: >>29569786 >>29569911

>>29569694
91's not the best guess and 83 is not the minimum

almost every mon in the ads has minimum stats. A few have 31 IVs/252 EVs, and a couple have 31 IVs/0 EVs.

Best guess is 98 HP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:08:59 No.29569738 Report

Quoted By: >>29569786

>>29569694
It can be trained. Someone in other thread noticed that Brionne's trailer estimated HP is lower than Popplio's which has never been the case for starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:12:03 No.29569785 Report

Quoted By: >>29569806 >>29569842

>>29569690
Read the Pokedex, it says mourns it's dead mother. Where the heck do you get that conclusion when every single Pokedex entry has it crying for it's mother?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:12:08 No.29569786 Report

Quoted By: >>29569795

>>29569736
>>29569738
If they have trained EVs it means the predicted base HP goes down, not up.

That would make Brionne's HP even more ridicularly low.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:13:03 No.29569795 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569786
That's why I said that 83 is not the minimum

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:13:24 No.29569806 Report

Quoted By: >>29569875

>>29569785
Everyone mourns their dead mother if she dies.
'Mourns' can be used in more than one tense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:13:33 No.29569807 Report

Quoted By:

>>29567083
Yeah purr ugly looks super fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:16:13 No.29569842 Report

Quoted By: >>29569906

>>29569785
Explain this then:when you put a Marowak in a daycare with a compatible pokemon,it doesn't die but Cubone still has its skull.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:18:28 No.29569875 Report

Quoted By: >>29569899

>>29569806
It always wears the skull of its dead mother, so no one has any idea what its hidden face looks like.

When it thinks of its dead mother, it cries. Its crying makes the skull it wears rattle hollowly.

Marowak always die when they give birth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:20:12 No.29569899 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569875
The games show otherwise senpai

the Pokédex is not canon where it contradicts the games or anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:20:40 No.29569906 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569842
Game mechanics don't = realistic. Pokémon can die yet they don't in game, people pass out from losing Pokemon battles and you actually believe that happens? Doesn't happen in the anime or Manga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:21:06 No.29569911 Report

Quoted By:

>>29569736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuiDXEK3lL4
Wally's Gallade is 31/0 and either Player's Alolan Raichu is just not perfect or Alolan Raichu has inferior HP to normal one. @ 4:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9o552CaJV8
Not perfect Ash-Greninja @ 3:34 (might be preset by demo)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR1ssSZfoGY
Not perfect Alakazam @ 2:43
Not perfect Tirtouga @ 3:00
Not perfect Raticate @ 5:01 (or Alolan form's HP is superior)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:26:16 No.29569992 Report

Quoted By:

>>29568862
>Just looked it up. Never realized...that's some bullshit. Maybe it's time for a change. Break one more pattern and make Decidueye the "strongest."

Kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:29:10 No.29570029 Report

Quoted By: >>29570052 >>29570489

>>29568677
Popplio fits Ash the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:30:22 No.29570052 Report

Quoted By:

>>29570029
I really couldn't see him using its evos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:45:58 No.29570294 Report

Quoted By: >>29570521 >>29570897

>>29566824
Worse, because Dark is shit physically. Although, I don't think it'll be too slow. Maybe a Choice Scarf user?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:52:33 No.29570409 Report

Quoted By: >>29570463

>people still in denial about Beltiger being the fastest starter
LMAO
OWLFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:55:25 No.29570463 Report

Quoted By:

>>29570409
>doesn't even use the canon name
At least put some effort if you gonna shitpost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:57:19 No.29570489 Report

Quoted By:

>>29570029
Popplio is Lana's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 16:59:35 No.29570521 Report

Quoted By:

>>29570294
Knock off and Sucker punch are shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:18:54 No.29570839 Report

Quoted By: >>29570867 >>29570920

>thinking Incineroar will be a mixed attacker

He'll be a bulky physical attacker with high HP/ATK/DEF, probably average SPDEF, and below average SPATK/SPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:20:32 No.29570867 Report

Quoted By:

>>29570839
High HP/ATK/SPE

reminder that Litten is the fastest starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:22:31 No.29570897 Report

Quoted By:

>>29570294
>dark is shit physically
You fucking what
You seriously fucking what
God, /vp/ gets more retarded every day

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:23:35 No.29570920 Report

Quoted By: >>29571282

>>29570839
Every single fire starter has been a mixed attacker.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:37:04 No.29571127 Report

Quoted By: >>29571290 >>29571295

>>29566917
>>29566971
>>29566954
>>29566937

Which starter has the highest stat does rarely change, but starters themselves have been super consistent. IE if a starter has a high stat in it's first form that will still be high by the end. Like Torchic, it has high speed, special and physical attacks, which is exactly what Blaziken has.

And speed and HP have never changed. As in the fastest first stage starter is always the fastest, and the highest hp starter always has the highest hp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:45:27 No.29571252 Report

Quoted By:

>>29568862
They do in every gen except gen 5 where everyone is equal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:47:03 No.29571282 Report

Quoted By:

>>29570920
Except for Delphox

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:47:31 No.29571290 Report

Quoted By:

>>29571127
I still find it funny how the Cyndiquil line is almost literally a wingless Charizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:47:50 No.29571295 Report

Quoted By: >>29571341

>>29571127
>gen 6 introduced both slowest and fastest starter ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:50:38 No.29571341 Report

Quoted By: >>29571408

>>29571295
Actually Turtwig's line is the slowest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Oct 2016 17:55:01 No.29571408 Report

Quoted By:

>>29571341
oh you are correct
I was far away from my screen and saw 66 speed instead of 56

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