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Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:45:57 No.29642024 View View Reply Original Report

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>3DS games like Hyrule Warriors Fire Emblem and Super Smash Bros have DLC that adds additional maps, playable characters, etc
>Patches for animal crossing add brand new features and functionality and is a substantial overhaul to how the game is played
>Gamefreak can't be bothered to patch the ORAS megas into XY
>Gamefreak couldn't be bothered to patch XY so that the Pokeball Boutique sold apricorn balls

Defend this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:47:37 No.29642049 Report

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>>29642024
Pokemon prints money, and they want people to just buy the next game instead of patching shit in the older games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:47:37 No.29642050 Report

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>>29642024
Not going to. Gamefreak is pretty lazy when it comes to their games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:48:10 No.29642055 Report

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>>29642024
they're not going to add the functionality of a new game to an old one you fucking dunce, it's called them needing to sell new games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:48:13 No.29642056 Report

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I can't. I literally fucking can't. I wish I could, but I can't. These people are so incompetent they think every new iteration is the time to put things in. It's ridiculous, they operate on a fucking EA games strategy and I fucking hate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:48:21 No.29642057 Report

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They didn't put the newer Megas into XY? I hate Megas, but that's really pathetic...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:49:16 No.29642073 Report

Quoted By: >>29642151 >>29648685 >>29648826

you're forgetting pic related DLC ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:50:28 No.29642099 Report

Quoted By: >>29642133 >>29642178

>>29642055
They don't need to add functionality. They could just make it so you could fight people using ORAS Megas and Primals. That's it. Make the items untradable and make changes to the netcode that boots you if you're playing XY with an ORAS item. That way XY players would see shiny new ORAS megas and be tempted to buy ORAS, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:51:52 No.29642133 Report

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>>29642099
fair enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:52:38 No.29642151 Report

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>>29642073
I quit the game half way through. So I didn't see this. I knew the Battle Frontier didn't return, but this is fucking ridiculous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:53:20 No.29642178 Report

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>>29642099
>This had the potential to print even more money for gamefreak through advertising and they still refused to do it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 01:57:48 No.29642274 Report

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>>29642024
>GameFreak won't patch Sun or Moon to add new Alolan form or Z-Moves post release

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 02:12:32 No.29642564 Report

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>>29642024
>Defend this
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 02:14:40 No.29642594 Report

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>>29642024
Can't and won't, GF needs to get their shit together. But as long a they continue to make huge profit, it's not going to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 02:26:45 No.29642814 Report

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>>29642024
Why would they patch something from the worst Generation into the laziest Generation!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 02:30:13 No.29642871 Report

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>>29642151
Yeah, this is alone is why I hated ORAS so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 02:37:00 No.29642984 Report

Quoted By: >>29643095

>>29642024
I'm glad they didn't patch ORAS megas into XY tbqh that way I could enjoy online battles without mega fugs, megamences and primals

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 02:43:07 No.29643095 Report

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>>29642984
you you aren't

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 02:53:25 No.29643271 Report

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>>29642024
They can't be bothered because their method of patching is stuck in the dark ages. They replace the entire goddamn file when patching something. That means they would have to replace the entire container which has the models, textures, and animations for use in battle. I don't remember how big it is when compressed, but when uncompressed it's 2.4 GB. It'd be a 1 GB patch at minimum. Maybe they got better programmers for Sun/Moon, but don't count on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 03:01:12 No.29643422 Report

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Here's the thing about Gamefreak:
They are not, and have never been, competent programmers. They're a bargain bin developer who got super lucky with the concept of Pokemon. There's a reason that the series has gone 20 years with an almost embarrassing refusal to fuck with the "collect badges" format.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 03:10:47 No.29643572 Report

Quoted By: >>29643655 >>29643695 >>29643787 >>29647335

>Smash managed to allow 4 player matches in flawless 60fps in 3D on the old 3DS

>Sun and Moon dip into the low 20s on the New 3DS in 2D when there are more than 3 Pokemon on the field at once

It's fucking pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 03:13:24 No.29643613 Report

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>>29642024
GameFreak releases plausibly incomplete work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 03:13:24 No.29643614 Report

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Breaking compatibility between gen 6 games only 1 year into the generation will go down as one of the biggest fuckups Game Freak has ever done.

I don't care how acknowledged this is, it was fucking abominable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 03:15:45 No.29643655 Report

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>>29643572
Somehow the framerate on the O3DS is better with MH4U and Hyrule Warriors than it is with Pokemon

>>29643614
They've done this before in Gen 4, iirc Giratina-O and Rotom-A were incompatible with Diamond and pearl. I don't remember if Shaymin was spared or note. There's also the Therian genies being incompatible with Gen 5, but back then there weren't patches on DS games so we kind of accepted it. no excuse now desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 03:17:45 No.29643695 Report

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>>29643572
You'd think after 20 years, they'd step up to the same quality of craftsmanship as other 2nd Party Nintendo developers like HAL or Sakurai's Smash team. Hell, even Nintendo itself is better at doing this shit than Game Freak, really makes you wonder why it's still in Game Freak's hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 03:19:07 No.29643711 Report

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>>29642024
Aren't events and mythicals technically DLC in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 03:20:40 No.29643740 Report

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>>29643711
None of those examples were on-disc dlc, which is what mythicals are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 03:23:27 No.29643787 Report

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>>29643572
>forgetting that xy/oras models dont have like 10 thousand polygons each

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 04:15:31 No.29644685 Report

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Some day Game Freak will make games for the Switch and they'll still be horrible programming messes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 05:54:44 No.29645936 Report

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>>29642871
SAME
SAME
SAME

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 05:57:49 No.29645971 Report

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>>29642024
Unless it's paid DLC, it will never happen. The plan is always to make you buy the next one in order to stay current.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 06:06:00 No.29646096 Report

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From what I heard, XY and ORAS handle the data for Pokémon in a really dumb way in that all the data is in one archived file so a theoretical patch would have to overwrite the entire "Pokémon" file and thus be fuckhuge large. There's really no reason the two couldn't have fought normally like how you could use Resolute Keldeo and Black/White Kyurem in a fight with BW1 though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 08:33:08 No.29647335 Report

Quoted By: >>29648646

>>29643572
Smash 4 uses late PS1-tier models when you're fighting though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 12:05:28 No.29648646 Report

Quoted By: >>29648816

>>29647335
Yeah and so should Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 12:08:43 No.29648665 Report

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>>29642055
That's why I steal them :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 12:12:42 No.29648685 Report

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>>29642073
This is a monument to all of ORAS's sins

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 12:27:28 No.29648797 Report

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>>29642024
It's a business model thing. They operate on a roughly yearly release schedule and are interested in just selling the complete package from the getgo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 12:29:44 No.29648816 Report

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>>29648646
It's easier to just make excessively large models now so that they never have to make new ones ever again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Nov 2016 12:31:05 No.29648826 Report

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>>29642073
>Kalos
>Battle Frontier under construction

>Alola
>Gyms and Pokémon League are planned for the future

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