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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 03:47:21 No.29663311 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29663451 >>29663454 >>29663534 >>29665123 >>29665290 >>29665822

Arceus is on nearly every Ubers team, and this thing is Arceus-Lite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 03:52:34 No.29663418 Report

Quoted By: >>29663454

Tapus are the next genies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 03:54:19 No.29663451 Report

Quoted By: >>29663500 >>29663705

>>29663311
Depends on the stats and movepool, really.

If they decide to give it uniform stats, it'd need at least 90 across the board to be good.

I can see it getting lots of special attacks to suit its chimera-ness, but I wonder if it'll get stuff like Extremespeed and Recover?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 03:54:32 No.29663454 Report

Quoted By: >>29663646

>>29663311
>>29663418
Pretty much just these. Unless there's a Gale Wings tier ability I don't see many other mons being OU this gen since it doesn't seem to out-power creep gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 03:56:52 No.29663500 Report

Quoted By: >>29663559 >>29663705

>>29663451
>If they decide to give it uniform stats, it'd need at least 90 across the board to be good.

100 across the board is a safe bet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 03:58:31 No.29663534 Report

Quoted By: >>29663595

>>29663311
>Arceus is on nearly every Ubers team, and this thing is Arceus-Lite.
That means literally nothing without good stats, hell it's ability is kinda shit so its gonna need great stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:00:10 No.29663559 Report

Quoted By: >>29663625

>>29663500
>100 across the board
I HIGHLY doubt that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:00:56 No.29663585 Report

Quoted By: >>29663622 >>29665311

In order for Silvally to be any type you want, which is limited to single types, it needs to have an item that does absolutely nothing else for it (so it can't have a Choice Scarf or Life Orb or whatever else you might want), and an ability that does absolutely nothing else for it (so for all intents and purposes it has NO ability during any given battle, compared to a hypothetical near-identical pokémon that just IS that type naturally), meaning whether it's Ubers material or just OU will depend on its base stats and TM moves.
Multitype is only a great abillity because 1: it's on an intentionally game-breaking pokémon, and 2: plates do something in addition to changing Arceus's type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:01:25 No.29663595 Report

Quoted By: >>29665391 >>29666051

>>29663534
>it's ability is kinda shit

Huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:02:32 No.29663622 Report

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>>29663585
Do we know memories don't boost the damage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:02:40 No.29663625 Report

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>>29663559
>600 bst
why not? maybe this is the pseudo this gen and not kommo-o

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:03:34 No.29663646 Report

Quoted By: >>29663661 >>29663827 >>29665338

>>29663454
Gen 6 only had like 3 or 4 OU mons anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:04:22 No.29663661 Report

Quoted By: >>29663695 >>29665462

>>29663646
and one of those is on nearly every team ever and one of the most talked about OU mons too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:04:53 No.29663667 Report

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Please god let this thing stay in OU. Rotting in Ubers as a litterally worse Arceus would be terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:05:48 No.29663695 Report

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>>29663661
Are we counting Firebird and Greninja there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:06:13 No.29663705 Report

Quoted By: >>29663748

>>29663451
>>29663500

Why not in between? 95 everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:08:53 No.29663748 Report

Quoted By: >>29664575

>>29663705
Well, if they're not going to make it a legendary (in terms of stats), base stats of 90 would be 540 BST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:12:56 No.29663827 Report

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>>29663646
I included megas as a part of gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:15:37 No.29663871 Report

Quoted By: >>29664512

>there was need of a Pokémon powerful enough to rival those Pokémon often spoken of in mythology.
It's going to be more than 540 cmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:55:02 No.29664512 Report

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>>29663871

it's probably gonna be 550 like Volcarona and have a huge movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 04:58:47 No.29664575 Report

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>>29663748
It looks faster than a 90bst speed pokemon though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:02:16 No.29664642 Report

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What if it has 120 in Attack and Speed, but around 90 in everything else?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:31:13 No.29665123 Report

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>>29663311

this guy will be the sacrificial lamb/land mine for most teams early gen 7 meta I almost garanteed it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:42:25 No.29665290 Report

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>>29663311
My question is what type will actually be good? There is no way all types will be good. I'm thinking ice, water, steel, and poison will be good. Poison because of all the fairies.

The real deal breaker will be what moves it gets. I think it should learn every TM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:43:36 No.29665311 Report

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>>29663585
>not running the OU version of the Arceus/Extremespeed set

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:45:28 No.29665338 Report

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>>29663646
Gen 6 gave us Greninja, Aegislash, Mega Gengar, Blaziken, Lucario, kangaskhan and Rayquaza on top of Primals desu

plus there's all the ou and bl megas like lopunny, char x, char y, venusaur, etc

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:47:53 No.29665374 Report

Quoted By: >>29665435

>ghost/fairy
>free substitute
Here's hoping, would lovr if this guy is actually useful in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:49:10 No.29665391 Report

Quoted By: >>29665695

>>29663595
>forced to give up an item slot so he can be a better type than normal
Arceus is justified because 120 across the board.
This thing is going to need to find a middle ground between op and complete shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:52:46 No.29665435 Report

Quoted By: >>29665486

>>29665374
I'm glad he's going to be shit and I won't have to see him ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:54:52 No.29665462 Report

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>>29663661
You mean Landorus-T? Talonflame is only on 1/8 of teams

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Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 05:57:17 No.29665486 Report

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>>29665435
>tfw its good and appears everywhere
Hoping for this just for all the contrarian tears.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 06:02:46 No.29665548 Report

Quoted By: >>29665576 >>29665786 >>29665952

Assuming it's not legendary, how would its stats have to look to be in OU and nothing higher?

555 is currently the highest BST a non-legendary, non-mega, non-pseudo, non-crippled-by-ability Pokemon has (Arcanine), so how about we have another one:

HP 75
ATT 110
DEF 75
SAT 110
SDF 75
SPE 110

Let's also say, hypothetically, it gets Arceus's exact moveset. Is this too strong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 06:04:46 No.29665576 Report

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>>29665548
Balance the stats. It needs to be arcanine tier to abuse the ability to the fullest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 06:12:48 No.29665695 Report

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>>29665391

120 across the board seems impressive, but compared to other Ubers, Arceus's individual stats are underwhelming.

What truly makes it good is its verstaility. It has a wide movepool, and can play many different roles for many different types of teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 06:22:29 No.29665786 Report

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>>29665548
But Arceus is shit. Nobody good uses it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 06:25:41 No.29665822 Report

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>>29663311
Komo'o is pretty certain to be at the very least high UU

It's stats is shown to be physically bulky with high attack, good STAB and if it gets Poison Jab has coverage against fairy, that is not counting boosting moves it may get. It's ability also protects it against hyper voice M-garde and Sylveon the only fairy it fears is Azumarill and Clefable, bulletproof may be used in a niche set against Gengar or others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 06:37:58 No.29665952 Report

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>>29665548
He can effectively extremekill with those stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Nov 2016 06:48:52 No.29666051 Report

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>>29663595
>either waste its item slot or leave it as a shit type
It's ability sucks, and it's gonna need the stats to back it up.

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