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>>29696024
I think his point is that if a Pokémon not in the datamine appears in a trailer then the datamined dex isn't complete and therefore there are still new Pokémon we haven't seen yet. So basically he's a fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:22:03 No.29696059 Report

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>>29696046
Well Gen VI has some of the best designs in the franchise overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:23:50 No.29696089 Report

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Why is Gamefreak so incompetent? How does this even happen? What the fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:26:06 No.29696130 Report

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>>29696046
Kalos has the best batch of new Pokemon in quality, shame it's dead last in quantity. Alola on the other hand is second worst in quality and quantity, and its "new forms of old Pokemon" are horrendous compared to Gen VI as well even with far less.

Hopefully the game itself will actually be not shit this time to make up for it.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:28:15 No.29696158 Report

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>>29696046
>>29696059
>>29696130
>Gen 6
>good designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:28:22 No.29696161 Report

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>>29696130
Woah nigga. This gen is probably one of the best in variety and design (sans the remade gen 1 pokes).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:28:42 No.29696165 Report

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>>29696010
Gastrodon was ripe for an Alola redesign and I'm really disappointed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:29:16 No.29696171 Report

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>>29696158
>opinions i disagree with are bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:30:38 No.29696188 Report

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>>29696165
i'm more disappointed you can't even get it until the final island. i was looking forward to using it. maybe i'll just wait for the DiaPer remakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:31:04 No.29696191 Report

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>>29696165
Octillery as a blue ringed octopus was my ONLY desire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:31:32 No.29696194 Report

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>>29696046
I thought the opposite, I like about 5 designs in gen 6, while there's only about 5 designs I dislike in gen 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:32:54 No.29696207 Report

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>>29696161
Nope, second worse in both. Ohmura was a mistake, like he was for human designs in Gen V.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:33:28 No.29696216 Report

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>>29696130
>>29696046
I feel the exact opposite too. Gen 6 has some great designs, but only some. Gen 7 is mostly very good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:33:57 No.29696222 Report

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>>29696207
y tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:35:16 No.29696243 Report

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>>29696207
Keep your shit taste to yourself please

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:37:45 No.29696291 Report

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>>29696222
Not that anon, but his are is flat and lifeless. It's no coincidence many people I've talked to were indifferent or didn't like a design after seeing just the artwork, only to have the Pokemon be redeemed by the models.

Part of that is the fact that the Pokemkn this gen were designed with 3D in mind, but a large part of that was the sub par Ohmura artwork.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:38:49 No.29696315 Report

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>>29696010
>No Alolan Cubone

Still pisses me off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:47:53 No.29696457 Report

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Yes, it was

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:48:21 No.29696466 Report

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damn I didn't know we had the whole dex down.

Do we have any idea of the real version exclusive lists?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 21:51:12 No.29696512 Report

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>>29696466
t. newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Nov 2016 23:21:41 No.29698002 Report

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>>29696030
Transparent models where?

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 00:41:57 No.29699420 Report

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>>29696130
Agreed. Gen 6 only has one truly bad design in my opinion, not counting Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 00:43:59 No.29699458 Report

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>>29696010
>no hawlucha

shit-tier dex

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:04:45 No.29699822 Report

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>>29696010

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:44:21 No.29700505 Report

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>>29695985
Alolan persian looks fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:46:17 No.29700533 Report

Quoted By: >>29700555 >>29700592

>>29696010
>No megas
Does this means we can still have new megas?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:47:40 No.29700555 Report

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>>29700533
>

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:48:31 No.29700567 Report

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>>29700555
:(

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:48:31 No.29700568 Report

Quoted By: >>29701006 >>29704929 >>29704966

>>29696010
God dammit, fucking Smeargle is alive. Why? If I ever get a job a GF, the very first thing I'll do is retcon that fucker out of the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:48:59 No.29700577 Report

Quoted By: >>29700615

>>29696010
The pokedex since gen 5 is more or less arranged in order of when you can obtain the Pokemon right? Does that mean you can get things like Delibird and Rufflet super early in these games?

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:50:07 No.29700592 Report

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>>29700533
they just weren't included in the island dex graphic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:50:09 No.29700595 Report

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>>29696058
... I just fuckin' hate this world. And the human worms feasting on its corpus. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred. And I always wanted to die violently. This is the time of vengeance and no life is worth saving. And I will put in the grave as many as I can. It's time for me to kill. And it's time for me to die. My genocide crusade begins here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:52:09 No.29700615 Report

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>>29700577
The colors signify the islands in which they first appear, so yeah, those are really early.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:52:42 No.29700623 Report

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>>29700592
>tiny spike legs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 01:56:13 No.29700691 Report

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>>29695985
even if he wasn't it wouldn't fucking matter because every game has a national dex with data for every pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:03:25 No.29700825 Report

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>>29696010
>Pokemon that less than 1% of players will have for their ingame team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:05:16 No.29700857 Report

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>>29696188
Wait, where did you hear the location of Gastrodon?

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:05:33 No.29700864 Report

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>>29696010
>Pangoro in the regional dex
Oh shit Gladion really will have one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:07:15 No.29700883 Report

Quoted By: >>29700920 >>29700937

>>29696010
>that small amount of the last 2 islands

The overall dex number is ok but it seems like they just threw in everything in melemele and akala island. Why does Poni Island have nothing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:08:05 No.29700893 Report

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>>29700825

Granbull is fairy now.

Sharpedo has mega.

Lapras is gen 1 pokemon.

Relicanth is awesome and i will be using one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:08:08 No.29700895 Report

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>>29700595
wit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:09:32 No.29700920 Report

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>>29700883
this isn't the entire dex, each layer only shows the pokemon that are new to the island, for instance crabrawler and crabominable are on every single island.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:10:17 No.29700937 Report

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>>29700883
From what I heard, repeating pokemon lines from previous islands are not included in the later ones, apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:11:01 No.29700947 Report

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>>29700920
Thanks, kinda figured after posting, considering some pokemon have been seen on more than one island.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:11:08 No.29700952 Report

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>>29700920
Not to mention I think we'll be island hopping a lot. Not just completing an island and moving to the one on the left

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:12:10 No.29700962 Report

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>>29700825
I thought that those island divisions just signify the first time they're available, so it makes sense it's the smallest since it would include things from the first three,and why the first Dex is biggest

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:14:22 No.29701000 Report

Quoted By: >>29701022 >>29701047

Rotom isn't in the dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:14:31 No.29701006 Report

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>>29700568
>well anon, welcome to the game freak staff! your office is right this way!
>give me the files for smeargle.
>oh? why's that?
>i'm going to get rid of them.
>anon, you're fired

Good plan.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:14:50 No.29701011 Report

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>>29700825
Fuck you Sharpedo is my favourite pokemon and Gastrodon is a baller

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:15:15 No.29701019 Report

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>>29696010
>alomomola is in the dex
>its pre-evo luvdisc isn't

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:15:29 No.29701022 Report

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>>29701000
yes he is, that's the whole point of the dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:15:43 No.29701027 Report

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>>29700825
>lists some pretty popular and good mons to use in-game
What about Luvdisc, Torkoal, Sudowoodo and Corsola?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:16:46 No.29701047 Report

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>>29701019
Luvdisc is in the dex.
>>29701000
Wasted trips, Rotom is technically inside the dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:20:12 No.29701097 Report

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>>29696010
>New poliwrath sprite
MY NIGGA
>Smeargle still alive
Fuck, I wanted VGC 2017 to be fun and enjoyable to view.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:22:34 No.29701135 Report

Quoted By: >>29701165

>>29701097
Hey, think about it this way. Smeargle will probably be used less since it won't have a way of accessing Dark Void!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:24:09 No.29701165 Report

Quoted By: >>29701582 >>29702014

>>29701135
INCORRECT. VGC 2017 bans the usage of any pokemon outside of Alola's regional dex, not their moves, you can use darkrai to give smeargle dark void you just can't use darkrai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:25:28 No.29701191 Report

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>>29696010
Since when is starmie blue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:30:49 No.29701274 Report

Quoted By: >>29701327

>>29696010
These models look so much more bright and alive than in gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:31:14 No.29701278 Report

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>>29696010
So do the colors indicate how far into the game until you can catch those Pokemon? Because I hope Mimikyu and Sandslash aren't too late game. I'm guessing Type: Null ad Silvally are one-off which is why they aren't on here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:34:15 No.29701327 Report

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>>29701274
Unfortunately the models are the same, but they just posed them mid attack for the dex. Their normal battle models and animations are the exact same

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:36:03 No.29701362 Report

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>>29696010
>The two shittier versions of Oricorio are on the first two islands and the best two are on the later islands

I hope there's a way to easily switch forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:37:41 No.29701399 Report

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>>29700825
Sharpedo and Honchkrow are great faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:38:44 No.29701413 Report

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>>29701362
I'd imagine they're permanent forms that you can't change since they're designed around the concept of adaptive radiation

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:42:09 No.29701467 Report

Quoted By: >>29701853

>>29696010
>Shellow and Gastrodon
How will their forms work in this game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:48:42 No.29701582 Report

Quoted By: >>29701717

>>29701165
Damn dude no need to be such a dick. In that case, try looking on the other bright side. Tapu Koko's ability may also ruin Smeargle's day, since it would make allies on the ground immune to sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:50:45 No.29701619 Report

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>>29700825
Sharpedo is my absolute favorite. Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:51:05 No.29701631 Report

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well it seems this thread backfired

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:55:41 No.29701717 Report

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>>29701582
all i know is how to be a dick. with no name there's no consequence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:57:16 No.29701740 Report

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>>29700825
Gastrodon is neat, but I wont be using any because I'm using all new mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 02:58:48 No.29701762 Report

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>>29698002
One or more of the demo dataminers' Twitter has a zip of all the Pokedex sprites. Either KazoWar or Kaphotics or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:00:19 No.29701788 Report

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>>29701019
turn your trip back on Brett

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:01:19 No.29701805 Report

Quoted By: >>29701963

>>29700825
Squishpras is my favorite HM slave desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:04:25 No.29701853 Report

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>>29701467
There's a mountain range on that island, so I assume the forms are split between either side

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:06:15 No.29701889 Report

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>>29696010
Does the Tapu color coding mean anything?

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:10:33 No.29701946 Report

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>>29700825

>Talking shit about Granbull
>EVER

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:12:17 No.29701963 Report

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>>29701805
Well you're not going to need lapras anymore then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:12:57 No.29701973 Report

Quoted By: >>29705758

Can someone crop KaDABra's sprite for me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:15:36 No.29702014 Report

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>>29701165
But there's no way to get Darkrai in the game before January without hacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:15:49 No.29702017 Report

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>>29696010
>Larvitar and Deino the only 2 psuedo families not available
>no Larvesta
>no Heracross

>Sinnoh and Unova fossils
>and then Aerodactyl for some reason
>Porygon line

>Komala, Mimikyu, Togedemaru, Drampa, Minior and Turtonator not until island 3

What an odd dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:27:09 No.29702228 Report

Quoted By: >>29705269 >>29705670

>>29696010
If you notice, these are sorted by type for each island with a couple exceptions like the Tapus. From this we can possibly guess what types some of the datamined moms are.
>Crown of thorns
With the water types
>Alolan Dugtrio
With the rock types.
>Spider
With the bug types
>Alolan Golem
Between Minior and Elekid. It definitely looks like a rock type, but since Oricorrio is next to Minior, that might be the flying section which may mean Golem is Electric.
>Anchor
With the water types

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:31:10 No.29702295 Report

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>>29700825
Implying i won't use based Wailord

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 03:40:14 No.29702456 Report

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>>29696030
>literally my mom's dead kid who died in the woods and grew into a treant

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 04:39:57 No.29703380 Report

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>>29696207
>Gen 5
>Not the pinnacle of human designs only possibly rivaled by ORAS remakes and possibly dethroned by SM
Replace OP with (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 06:13:32 No.29704484 Report

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>>29701889
Sorted by island

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 06:19:40 No.29704549 Report

Quoted By: >>29704850

>>29696010
>>29696021
I don't want to spoil myself. Can I get a drifloon/blimp Early on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 06:48:05 No.29704850 Report

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>>29704549
Yes, on the first island

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 06:57:06 No.29704929 Report

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>>29700568
If I ever meet you in real life I'll beat the crap out of you, you little punk!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 06:59:51 No.29704948 Report

Quoted By: >>29706079

>>29702017
Fuck that in particular, why put Pinsir in the game but not my fucking bro Heracross?
So far S/M is looking like this:
>great region
>good story
>bad dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:01:35 No.29704966 Report

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>>29700568
I like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:01:36 No.29704967 Report

Quoted By: >>29705059

>>29696010

I just realized there's one pseudo-legendary per island at the end of each dex.

Melemele - Salamence
Akala - Goodra
Ulaula - Garchomp
Poni - Kommo-o

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:10:58 No.29705059 Report

Quoted By: >>29705157

>>29704967
But Akala has two

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:20:48 No.29705157 Report

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>>29705059

Don't you mean Poni?

Oh they both do. That means Hydreigon and Tyranitar are the only pseudos who don't appear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:24:32 No.29705189 Report

Quoted By: >>29705206 >>29705534 >>29705545

I'm thinking some of them will be available to catch in the post-game only. Braviary and Mandibuzz especially, because they evolve at such a high level. There is no indication but I could imagine Phantump/ Trevenant being post-game only, as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:26:35 No.29705206 Report

Quoted By: >>29705226

>>29705189
Its extremely rare for a regional dex pokemon to be post-game early. even in DP, where half the new pokemon were post-game, they just didn't add them to the regional dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:27:37 No.29705226 Report

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>>29705206
Post-game only, that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:33:23 No.29705269 Report

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>>29702228
That's actually a really stellar deduction. It at the very least bolsters my belief that Alolan Dugtrio is Rock/Fire or Rock/Fairy

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:34:20 No.29705276 Report

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>>29696010
> No mimikyu or togedamaru until island three

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:58:42 No.29705464 Report

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Maybe we can assume region exclusives from that too? thinking Braviary/Mandibuzz llines, Ariados/Ledian, ?Drifblim(?)/Mismagius, Vanilluxe/Glalie any other ideas?

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:05:34 No.29705513 Report

Quoted By: >>29705532

>>29696010
>Mfw 4 of the ones I want are unavailable until at least the 3rd island

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:09:16 No.29705532 Report

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>>29705513
3 for me, but I'm okay with using other stuff beforehand and boxing it once I get what I want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:09:33 No.29705534 Report

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>>29705189
this. I'm thinking that you will need a special pokemon ride to get to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:10:59 No.29705545 Report

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>>29705189

they may show around the area of the Trainer Tree or Pokemon League, assuming it's locked until you beat all of the trials.

maybe they will keep the mechanic of high lv burds attacking you randomly in "Victory Road"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:30:03 No.29705636 Report

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>>29696046
Gen 7 has mostly good designs than Gen 6 in my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:41:05 No.29705670 Report

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>>29702228
But who picked that order? Did it came from the datamine like this?

See urchin will be Water Dark, if you ask me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:43:53 No.29705675 Report

Quoted By: >>29705736

>>29696010
WAIT A SECOND IS THERE AN ALOLAN EXEGGCUTE

WHY ISN'T THERE AN ALOLAN EXEGGCUTE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:58:36 No.29705736 Report

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>>29705675
We already knew this anon. Same as cubone and pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 09:00:36 No.29705758 Report

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>>29701973
Anyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 09:08:36 No.29705822 Report

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>>29702017
>and then Aerodactyl for some reason
Only Fossil Pokémon with a Mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 09:57:36 No.29706079 Report

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>>29704948
it's weird as soon as the dex starts. caterpie line is included but not weedle line

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