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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 06:30:21 No.29704652 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29704734 >>29704938 >>29705455

Ash-Greninja can now evolve on command like mega evolution and can have any nature/IV spread. Would it be superior to protean Greninja? How would it be placed in the meta?

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 06:38:07 No.29704734 Report

Quoted By: >>29705483

>>29704652
It would shit on Protean Greninja offensively. Its Gunk Shot and Ice Beam would only be slightly weaker, but it'd both be faster and do far much damage with Scald/Water Shuriken and Dark Pulse.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 06:58:44 No.29704938 Report

Quoted By: >>29705195

>>29704652
>can have any nature/IV spread
What?

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:25:22 No.29705195 Report

Quoted By: >>29705550

>>29704938
It's locked to being hardy and 20/31/20/31/20/31 ivs

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 07:57:22 No.29705455 Report

Quoted By: >>29705584

>>29704652
Uber tier I guess, Ash Greninja was banned from 2017 VGC the same moment it was shown in the trailer.

Although with a good nature and EVs/IVs I can't see it being good enough to be banned, good luck taking anything down in the uber metagame. Even when you pull off activating Battle Bond its power will still be underwhelming.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:01:08 No.29705483 Report

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>>29704734
>changing ash-greninjas attacks
Literally die

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:13:16 No.29705550 Report

Quoted By: >>29705558

>>29705195
Yeah, but non-perfect IVs are a non-issue as Hyper Training can correct that.

Nothing can be done about that awful nature though.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:15:13 No.29705558 Report

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>>29705550
Is it really awful though?
bad, yes, but I feel something like relaxed would better fit "awful"

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Anonymous Mon 07 Nov 2016 08:20:28 No.29705584 Report

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>>29705455
It's banned because Greninja isn't on the Aloladex not because it's strong.

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