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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:06:01 No.29751738 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29752433 >>29752503 >>29752626 >>29752673 >>29752761 >>29754793 >>29755090

It gets Recover.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:11:04 No.29751950 Report

Quoted By: >>29752316

>Doesn't learn power trick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:14:58 No.29752116 Report

Quoted By: >>29752376 >>29752533

I wasn't able to look in detail on the video, cos I'm on mobile, but it looked like it didn't get any attacking water moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:19:52 No.29752316 Report

Quoted By: >>29752678

>>29751950
>power trick
>when has LITERALLY no offensive moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:21:05 No.29752376 Report

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>>29752116
Attacking? With those stats? This thing is a stallmon, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:21:09 No.29752378 Report

Quoted By: >>29755272

It's absolutely baffling to me that you guys thought this was going to be a normal pokemon with that ability. It's a jank Wobbuffet-like concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:22:35 No.29752433 Report

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>>29751738
Literally setup bait: The Pokemon

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:22:49 No.29752441 Report

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>Unaware
STEP ASIDE QUAGSIRE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:24:07 No.29752503 Report

Quoted By: >>29753491

>>29751738

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:24:34 No.29752530 Report

Quoted By: >>29752595

>Let's make a pokemon whose gimmick is dealing its health in damage when it faints.
>Then let's give it low health and high defenses

Did gamefreak hire retards to stat pokemon this gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:24:35 No.29752533 Report

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>>29752116
It doesn't have anything that deals direct damage. It gets Counter and Mirror coat so at least it's not completely unusable in single player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:26:01 No.29752595 Report

Quoted By: >>29752687 >>29752773

>>29752530
It's a stallmon. You don't send this thing in as a suicide bomb. You bait the foe into trying to lower its HP to a good level to kill it, while killing them with Toxic and healing off damage with Recover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:26:52 No.29752626 Report

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>>29751738
>5

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:27:51 No.29752673 Report

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>>29751738
>5 Spd
Trick Room let's gooooooooooo~

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:27:58 No.29752678 Report

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>>29752316
>make a pokemon
>give it the ability to make FISTS with its innards
>don't give it any fucking offensive moves
>not even punching moves

fucking why

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:28:10 No.29752687 Report

Quoted By: >>29752761 >>29752846 >>29753007

>>29752595
>You bait the foe into trying to lower its HP
Except anyone with two brain cells will start setting up a sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:29:46 No.29752761 Report

Quoted By: >>29752833 >>29752890

>>29751738
>unaware
>when attacking
HOLY FUCK WHY WOULD THEY NERF IT SO HARD
GOODBYE SWOLEFABLE

>>29752687
The point is one-shotting it is gonna hurt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:29:59 No.29752773 Report

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>>29752595
So we could have had a cool, unique mon. Instead we just got another generic staller. That makes everything better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:31:16 No.29752833 Report

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>>29752761
>one-shotting it is gonna hurt
55 base HP

So not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:31:38 No.29752846 Report

Quoted By: >>29752888 >>29752894

>>29752687
And then your sweeper takes a huge amount of damage all at once on top of the Toxic damage and dies to priority from the next Pokemon you send in. Is the concept this hard to grasp?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:32:40 No.29752888 Report

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>>29752846
>Huge amount of damage
>55 base HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:32:42 No.29752890 Report

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>>29752761
Even worse, Pyukumuku don't even have any offensive moves to attack with. Unaware is wasted on it.

It's like they added Unaware to Pyukumuku, nerfed Unaware mid-development and then forgot to remove it from Pyukumuku.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:32:48 No.29752894 Report

Quoted By: >>29752949 >>29755594

>>29752846
Scizor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:34:04 No.29752949 Report

Quoted By: >>29752965

>>29752894
>What is switching?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:34:28 No.29752965 Report

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>>29752949
Thanks for the free swords dance fampai.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:35:29 No.29753007 Report

Quoted By: >>29753042

>>29752687
>Venom Drench

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:36:10 No.29753042 Report

Quoted By: >>29753469 >>29755594

>>29753007
Scizor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:40:17 No.29753183 Report

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>want to use this in game
>No attacking moves
I thought it'd at least get scald! I love this bunny-cucumber, but I'm gonna need to run 2 water types I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:47:38 No.29753469 Report

Quoted By: >>29753538

>>29753042
>The concept of killing a specific threat before switching something out eludes me!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:48:13 No.29753491 Report

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>>29752503
Source on image I got my dick in hand

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:49:26 No.29753538 Report

Quoted By: >>29753729

>>29753469
>leaving a vulnerable stallmon until late-game
wew laddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 17:54:33 No.29753729 Report

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>>29753538
Stall teams already have ways of getting around Steel-types. Don't pretend that Mega Sableye just suddenly doesn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:03:13 No.29754011 Report

Quoted By: >>29754117

Purify
The user heals the targetâ€™s status condition. If the move succeeds, it also restores the userâ€™s own HP.
Pyukumuku

From the new moves thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:05:59 No.29754117 Report

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>>29754011
That could have use for Doubles, but for Singles it'll just run Recover. It needs the target to be Poisoned so it can hurt and Venom Drench them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:23:17 No.29754705 Report

Quoted By: >>29755024

>people acting like 55 base HP won't hurt
Literally 100% of pyukumuku will run max HP since it doesn't need speed or offenses, and its defenses are so much higher than its HP. That means its maximum HP is 314, or 313 to minimize SR damage. If your Adamant +Atk +Spe setup sweeper kills that from full, it will die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:24:29 No.29754756 Report

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I was going to say that this is the best unaware user now but
>no scald
I'm not so sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:25:44 No.29754793 Report

Quoted By: >>29755009

>>29751738
wheres the movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:31:16 No.29755009 Report

Quoted By: >>29755316

>>29754793
http://pastebin.com/DuZ0cvhR

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:31:47 No.29755024 Report

Quoted By: >>29755457

>>29754705
Just to take this a little further, 313 HP of damage outright kills anything with uninvested 86 base HP or lower with zero prior damage.
>Lati@s
>Metagross
>Blaziken
>Genies (other than Landorus, who has 89 base HP)
>Talonflame
>Hawlucha
>Megazard
>Serperior
>Greninja

The list goes on. Even if it can't OHKO from full, it kills nearly anything with just a little prior damage (2 turns of toxic damage kills anything up to 385 HP, or uninvested base 121(!!))

The idea that you can just set up on this without taunt is false.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:33:12 No.29755090 Report

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>>29751738
Holy fuck

Aww, could have been a good tank if it wasn't for that abysmal HP stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:38:00 No.29755272 Report

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>>29752378
It's just aftermath.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:39:30 No.29755316 Report

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>>29755009
>literally can not attack
the fuck why do this again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:44:01 No.29755457 Report

Quoted By: >>29755605

>>29755024

It also learns pain split, for more stall shenanigans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:48:14 No.29755594 Report

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>>29752894
>>29753042
If you weren't busy spamming Scizor Scizor the whole thread you'd know Pyukumuku gets fucking Soak.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:48:28 No.29755605 Report

Quoted By: >>29755826 >>29757107

>>29755457
Pain split on this is seriously just bullshit. That and countercoat just make killing this conventionally a real risk.
>Try to overpower and oneshot it
>Die
>Try to wear it down slowly
>Either die to toxic/recover or get countercoated
>Get Pain Split
>Die
The only reliable way to beat this is status, but I suspect that these guys will always be chestorest and they'll be able to wear you down just as fast with their own status moves. You either outpredict it or try to stall out its PP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:54:12 No.29755826 Report

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>>29755605
Ah whoops, looks like it only gets Counter. Still, that's a pretty good way of dealing damage against DDancers who try to wear you down with e.g. Fire Fang.
>Psych Up + Baton Pass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:06:46 No.29756303 Report

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So it will be best friends with Shuckle, right?
Shuckle needed a new buddy :) that makes me happy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:29:20 No.29757107 Report

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>>29755605
Only taunt can really, really work.

They will have to pick between using mental herb or chesto rest.

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