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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:10:43 No.29754282 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29754325 >>29754365 >>29756117 >>29756197 >>29756773 >>29757178 >>29757227 >>29757923 >>29760518

> Nobody is talking about the buff our premium scout got this gen

Fell Stinger is now 50 base power

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:12:00 No.29754325 Report

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>>29754282
Oh man

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:13:05 No.29754365 Report

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>>29754282
yes
YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:19:16 No.29754559 Report

Quoted By: >>29754757 >>29754817

>80bp Leech Life
>50bp Fell Stinger

How do we stop the upcoming bug meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:24:35 No.29754757 Report

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>>29754559
molters

two bug kill ahah. fuck up bug ahaha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:26:22 No.29754817 Report

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>>29754559
We don't. We embrace it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:26:35 No.29754826 Report

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This is pretty nice. They won't give bug type more resistances/advantages, but they are giving their moves a lot of power, which is pretty great.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:27:28 No.29754856 Report

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We buggen now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 18:59:10 No.29756020 Report

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>>29754757
Lycanroc with accelrock will be used as a counter

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:00:53 No.29756083 Report

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>>29756020
No he won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:01:45 No.29756117 Report

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>>29754282
Fell Stinger now also drastically (+3) raises attack upon a KO. It used to be sharply (+2)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:02:23 No.29756143 Report

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>>29756020
don't think so

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:03:02 No.29756166 Report

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>>29756117

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:03:43 No.29756197 Report

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>>29754282
Anon, please. I can only get so erect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:04:06 No.29756214 Report

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>>29756117
AHAHAHA

And people mocked me for training my perfect top percentage Beedrill! His drill will pierce the heavens!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:05:24 No.29756261 Report

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>>29756117
>Bugs are coming back with a vengeance
Even Lurantis knew when to switch sides.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:05:27 No.29756264 Report

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FUCK

YANBRO MAYBE VIABLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWMxsj48jSU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:07:19 No.29756325 Report

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>>29756117
Why does Togedemaru learn this move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:08:15 No.29756348 Report

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>>29756214
M8 mega Beedrill is already good, who's mocking you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:14:22 No.29756571 Report

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>>29756325
because it has what looks to be a stinger for a tail. learns other bug stinging moves like twineedle too. with its crap BST, togedemaru honestly needs it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:19:49 No.29756773 Report

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>>29754282
>Fell Stinger
>50BP now
This is fake right? Gamefreak would never make one of my favorite moves that good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:23:18 No.29756893 Report

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>>29756773

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:24:40 No.29756941 Report

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>>29756348
Oh, I had one before the mega and I just keep moving him forward every gen. That was unclear. I just appreciate his continued success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:27:12 No.29757024 Report

Quoted By: >>29757075

I'd still rather use u-turn desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:28:40 No.29757075 Report

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>>29757024
Not with the +3 you fucking wouldn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:31:02 No.29757178 Report

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>>29754282
>Schyter still doesn't learn it
IT'S NOT FAIR REEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:31:11 No.29757185 Report

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>>29757075
I know damn well how terrifying Beedrill can be at +2 let alone at +3 but unless you remove all priority users, things that wall it, and scarf users with more than 80 base speed you won't get to use your bee much unless you pivot and hit hard with u-turn.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:32:19 No.29757227 Report

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>>29754282
Hi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:32:20 No.29757228 Report

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>>29756893
What was the BP before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:33:21 No.29757275 Report

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>>29757228
25

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:33:59 No.29757304 Report

Quoted By: >>29757362 >>29757661 >>29757996

Any other notable BP changes made? Wasn't Knock-Off nerfed? Is there a list?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:34:45 No.29757333 Report

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>>29757275
Holy shit! this is quite the boost then. As a bugfag I'am pleased but still pissed about vikavolt's speed and the overall shittiness of the water spider mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:35:26 No.29757361 Report

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You idiots, you realize genesect gets fell stinger naturally right?

It also has download too and a speed boosting move.
Mix Genesect will literally be TERROR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:35:26 No.29757362 Report

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>>29757304
Leech life 80 BP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:39:15 No.29757522 Report

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>>29757185
>things that wall it

Be honest here - nothing's walling the fucker when he's at +3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:40:43 No.29757585 Report

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>>29757333
It was 30, but yeah it's a fair boost. Remember that it's even MORE of a Boost when you consider Adaptability.

Previous Fell Stinger was essentially a 60 BP Attack coming from Mega Beedrill.

Current Fell Stinger is essentially a 100 BP Attack coming from Mega Beedrill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:42:36 No.29757661 Report

Quoted By: >>29757717 >>29757757

>>29757304
Knock off got nerfed, but i'm not sure what changed. As the other anon said, leech life is now 80 BP instead of 20.

>>29757185
So you can just run
Fell Stinger
U-Turn
Drill Run
Protect / Poison Jab

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:42:42 No.29757662 Report

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+3 252 Atk Adaptability Mega Beedrill Leech Life vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 326-384 (92.6 - 109%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:43:54 No.29757701 Report

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>>29757662
MUH

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:44:01 No.29757706 Report

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>>29757662
Unfortunately it does not get leech life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:44:16 No.29757717 Report

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>>29757522
+3 252 Atk Adaptability Mega Beedrill Poison Jab vs. 248 HP / 48 Def Crobat: 275-324 (73.7 - 86.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
Crobat can revenge kill at full health unless it has knock off. If it has knock off then Cobalion walls it and revenge kills it instead.

>+3 252 Atk Mega Beedrill Drill Run vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 156-184 (45.3 - 53.4%) -- 36.3% chance to 2HKO
>>29757661
You either lose reliable damage output against fairies or the absolutely mandatory protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:45:10 No.29757752 Report

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>>29757706
it gets x-scissor though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:45:16 No.29757757 Report

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>>29757661
>protect
>slashed
nigga that shit is mandatory on beedrill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:45:51 No.29757773 Report

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>>29756893
>spiky shield
Th-that's got to be from some other Pokemon, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:46:02 No.29757784 Report

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>>29757662
>Heals 163 HP

I think there is a SERIOUS chance that we'll be seeing Tanks raise Defense and Sp. Defence instead of HP primarily this generation.

80 BP Draining Move that's a fucking TM is just fucking rediculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:47:06 No.29757841 Report

Quoted By: >>29757944

>>29757717
>You either lose reliable damage output against fairies

What fairy is going to survive the fuck out of a +3 Leech Life?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:49:21 No.29757916 Report

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>>29757757
Not in alola dex :^)

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:49:25 No.29757923 Report

Quoted By: >>29759609

>>29754282
>still no Grass buffs
>bug's Absorb clone is now better than Grass' best leeching move
Worst type continues to get worse. I need a crying Wojak Grass type for this shit. What the fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:49:55 No.29757944 Report

Quoted By: >>29758100 >>29758178

>>29757841
>>29757841
+3 252 Atk Adaptability Mega Beedrill X-Scissor vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 344-405 (87.9 - 103.5%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
This isn't even bulky Sylveon, Both specs and bulky CM OHKO with Psyshock

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:51:04 No.29757996 Report

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>>29757304
Also swagger is now 85 accuracy instead of 90

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:53:34 No.29758092 Report

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>>29756117
This still applies if you used the Z-version of Fell Stinger according to someone's ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:53:52 No.29758100 Report

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>>29757944
I doubt anyone would keep in a sylveon on a poison type nuke

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:55:37 No.29758178 Report

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>>29757944
Congrats, there's no fucking way Sylveon doesn't die next turn to Poison Jab, and she sure as fuck isn't attacking first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:56:05 No.29758195 Report

Quoted By: >>29758222

>brodrill becomes usable with a based mega
>gets buffed further

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 19:56:56 No.29758222 Report

Quoted By: >>29758399

>>29758195
>implying this is a buff
Everyone will still use u-turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:00:18 No.29758367 Report

Quoted By: >>29758668

>>29756083
>>29756143
252 Atk Life Orb Kabutops Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Beedrill: 315-374 (116.2 - 138%) -- guaranteed OHKO

kabutops has 115 base attack, i made aqua jet rock type. eat shit fuck boys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:01:09 No.29758399 Report

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>>29758222
SDDrill was a real thing before, and this is basically better Sword Dance, so it's a buff, if a small one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:02:02 No.29758432 Report

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>>29756893
>50 BP
>75 BP with Technician
Will Kricketune finally be able to escape PU hell?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:04:02 No.29758504 Report

Quoted By: >>29758561

>>29757185
Topu Lel says hi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:05:27 No.29758561 Report

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>>29758504
That thing won't be UU and the momentum has to be fucking perfect for its terrain to be active the moment you send Bedrill in to finish something off with Fell Stinger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:08:10 No.29758668 Report

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>>29758367
>implying kabutops won't just die on the switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:16:31 No.29758998 Report

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>>29756117
Dear god that is too far

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:32:14 No.29759609 Report

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>>29757923
Fucking Masuda and has water boner. Electric is safe thanks to Pikachu, but grass really needs a savior

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:56:40 No.29760463 Report

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Does anything with Fell Stinger also get Moxie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 20:58:21 No.29760518 Report

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