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Movepool additions for old Pokemon

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:31:47 No.29768091 View View Reply Original Report

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http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/movepool-changes.3586517/#post-7069719

Kanto

Butterfree - Air Slash
Clefable - Spotlight
Mankey - Power Trip
Primeape - Stomping Tantrum
Growlithe - Burn Up
Dodrio - Jump Kick & Swords Dance
Marowak - Stomping Tantrum
Starmie - Spotlight
Gyarados - Hurricane
Snorlax - High Horsepower
Moltres - Burn Up
Mewtwo - Laser Focus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:32:06 No.29768102 Report

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Johto

Typhlosion - Burn Up
Furret - Coil
Noctowl - Moonblast
Ariados - Toxic Thread
Pichu - Electric Terrain
Bellossom - Quiver Dance
Sudowoodo - Head Smash & Tearful Look
Dunsparce - Air Slash & Dragon Rush
Sneasel - Throat Chop
Corsola - Liquidation
Delibird - Drill Peck
Mantine - Roost
Suicune - Sheer Cold

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:33:41 No.29768141 Report

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>>29768091
Reposting:

>Jump Kick Dodrio

I don't think people realize just how fucking great this is.

Firstly, Dodrio just got a Speed Buff. +10, so he's sitting happily at 110 Speed.

Secondly, Jump Kick isn't your old Jump Kick from RBY. It's 100 BP, 95% Acc now.

So basically...

Adamant / Jolly Dodrio @ Choice Band / Life Orb
>Brave Bird
>Jump Kick
>Knock Off
>Steel Wing

Just the first 3 moves give it nearly unresisted type coverage (fuck Dedenne). Steel Wing lets it fuck over ALL Fairies pretty fucking hard.

Basically, Dodrio just got pretty fucking useful and is going to end up in UU at the very least.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:34:24 No.29768165 Report

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>>29768091
>Gyarados - Hurricane
It makes sense lorewise, but sadly it will never ever be used in anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:34:31 No.29768167 Report

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>>29768102
Whats throat chop do

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:35:26 No.29768190 Report

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>>29768167
Dark attack that with around 80 or 90 power. Prevents the use of sound attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:35:41 No.29768197 Report

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>>29768167

Dark type
80 Power
Opposing Pokemon is unable to use sound-based moves for two turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:35:49 No.29768199 Report

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>>29768167
Fuck yo sound moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:37:03 No.29768239 Report

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>>29768190
>>29768197
>>29768199
That sound prevention is fucking stupid. It should be a stronger fake out

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:37:20 No.29768250 Report

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>>29768102

Dunsparce confirmed for Dragon/Flying evolution in future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:38:48 No.29768293 Report

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>>29768102
Looks like they're making Coil and Quiver Dance less specific to only certain animals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:52:00 No.29768640 Report

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I do enjoy the tears of people who were praying for ampharos to get firefly light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:53:27 No.29768690 Report

Quoted By: >>29768706 >>29772805 >>29772904 >>29775342

Hoenn
Swellow - Hurricane
Surskit - Lunge
Carvanha - Psychic Fangs
Wailord - Noble Roar
Seviper - Swords Dance
Solrock - Flare Blitz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:54:19 No.29768706 Report

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>>29768690

That's not complete because Flygon has Dragon Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:56:40 No.29768761 Report

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>>29768102
>Mantine - Roost

ABOUT
FUCKING
TIME
nigga should have got it 3 gens ago with skarmory

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:57:14 No.29768777 Report

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>>29768091
>rapidash didn't get high horsepower
I'm kind of pissed, actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:58:15 No.29768809 Report

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>>29768777
It's not high enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:58:48 No.29768828 Report

Quoted By: >>29768992

What does
Psychic fang
Tearfull look
Stomping tantrum
Do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:59:15 No.29768847 Report

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>>29768141
What can Dodrio KO with Steel Wing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 00:59:27 No.29768856 Report

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>>29768706
Does Fug get Hurricane now?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:02:50 No.29768931 Report

Quoted By: >>29769048

Off-topic, but do the terrain moves overwrite each other? For example, Can you have grass terrain and misty terrain at the same time?

I haven't played since gen 5 and the online battling scene seems like it's going to be a lot of fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:03:49 No.29768967 Report

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>>29768809
>a literal blazing horse
When you blaze that much you gotta be high all the time. Although I see why Mudsdale and Snorlax get it, what with the dreads and the sleeping all the time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:04:53 No.29768992 Report

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>>29768828
List of new moves is here.

paste.ee/r/mvJ70

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:07:02 No.29769048 Report

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>>29768931
No, but you can have a Weather and a Terrain i.e. Sunny Day and Grassy Terrain

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:07:20 No.29769062 Report

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Hoenn

Swellow - Hurricane
Surskit - Lunge
Carvanha - Psychic Fangs
Wailord - Noble Roar
Flygon - Dragon Dance
Seviper - Swords Dance
Lunatone - Power Gem
Solrock - Flare Blitz

Sinnoh

Bibarel - Swords Dance & Aqua Jet
Wormadam - Quiver Dance & Bug Buzz
Mothim - Lunge
Ambipom - Dual Chop
Skuntank - Sucker Punch (naturally)
Lucario - Laser Focus
Froslass - Will-O-Wisp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:07:20 No.29769063 Report

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>>29768967
It's so high it can't function, thus get the power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:12:11 No.29769176 Report

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>>29769062
>Simple Swords Dance Bibarel
>with all that STAB priority

oh shit, prepare your anus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:19:52 No.29769374 Report

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>>29769062
Bibarel gets +4 with one SD

It might actually be good now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:20:22 No.29769387 Report

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>>29769062

What's lunge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:25:05 No.29769528 Report

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>>29769062
>Bibarel
>Aqua Jet
YES YES YES
>Endure Weakness Policy Aqua Jet
Fucking brilliant.

Anon

Anon Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:25:47 No.29769558 Report

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>>29769062
What about unova and kalos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:26:23 No.29769574 Report

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>>29768847
OHKOs Mega Diancie and at worst speed ties if Jolly. Steel Wing 2HKOs Clefable even with max HP/Defense. Klefki is 2HKO'd by Jump Kick because of having a Steel typing itself.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:26:41 No.29769579 Report

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>>29768091
>All this buffing of shitmons
that's best thing about this gen so far and how bug types are getting buffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:27:24 No.29769597 Report

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>>29769062
>will-o Froslass
FINALLY

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:28:14 No.29769623 Report

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>>29768102
>Suicune - Sheer Cold
suicune already had access to sheer cold

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:29:43 No.29769670 Report

Quoted By: >>29770073 >>29770143 >>29771842 >>29771957

Unova

Watchog - Nasty Plot
Lillipup - Psychic Fangs
Musharna - Psychic Terrain
Throh - Mat Block
Basculin - Head Smash
Krookodile - Power Trip
Tirtouga - Liquidation
Emolga - Speed Swap
Klinklang - Gear Up
Beheeyem - Psychic Terrain
Golurk - High Horsepower & Stomping Tantrum
Heatmor - Fire Lash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:29:56 No.29769673 Report

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>>29769623
Through events. It's never been something it can naturally learn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:30:03 No.29769678 Report

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>>29769623
that's event-only tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:30:14 No.29769684 Report

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>>29769062
>Froslass - Will-O-Wisp
nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:31:44 No.29769732 Report

Quoted By: >>29769762

>no move tutors

fug

im hoping for move tutors to teach moves like refresh and softboiled

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:32:11 No.29769742 Report

Quoted By: >>29770394

Primeape Dynamic Punch/Stomping Tantrum combo sounds silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:32:44 No.29769758 Report

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is there a link for the new moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:32:59 No.29769762 Report

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>>29769732
Never in the first games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:33:13 No.29769765 Report

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>>29768141
You are retarded. It can't even beat Klefki.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:33:37 No.29769780 Report

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Do we know buffs/nerfs for Pokémon that aren't in SM? I'm guessing yes but I don't know the regional Dex at all

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:34:05 No.29769791 Report

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>no new moves
>no buffs
>still shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:34:10 No.29769794 Report

Quoted By: >>29769835 >>29769858

does high horsepower do anything other than be a worse earthquake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:35:20 No.29769825 Report

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>>29769062
>Bibarel - Swords Dance & Aqua Jet

Jesus christ, we're witnessing the new Azumarill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:35:34 No.29769835 Report

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>>29769794
stops you hitting your ally in doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:36:30 No.29769858 Report

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>>29769794
Keep in mind EQ is nerfed in the sense that Grassy Terrain can see more action now a la Tapu Bulu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:37:09 No.29769873 Report

Quoted By: >>29770015

>High Horsepower
>Animation is literally a horseshoe
>Snorlax
>Golurk

Why?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:37:43 No.29769886 Report

Quoted By: >>29770633

>>29769858
>>29769835

EQ is going to be shit in doubles now that Gengar lost Levitate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:42:30 No.29770015 Report

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>>29769873
same reason they only touched at most like 10 pokemon each gen and ignored the rest of them
and i do mean didnt touch, absolutely ZERO changed for a large majority of existing pokemon
gen 6.5 fags were completely right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:43:28 No.29770038 Report

Quoted By: >>29770394 >>29771783

Kalos
Litleo - Flare Blitz
Pancham - Power Trip
Pangoro - Bullet Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:43:33 No.29770039 Report

Quoted By: >>29771783

Kalos

Litleo - Flare Blitz
Pancham - Power Trip
Pangoro - Bullet Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:44:36 No.29770073 Report

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>>29769670
>rapidash the horse doesnt get high horsepower
>golurk does

FUCKING LEL

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:46:28 No.29770119 Report

Quoted By: >>29770180

>>29768091
>Spotlight
This is strange. The German name of Follow Me is already Spotlight. I wonder how they will name Spotlight in German, maybe Rampenlicht (literal translation)?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:46:48 No.29770131 Report

Quoted By: >>29770233

>boost in Sp Atk
>now gets Hurricane
>already has Boomburst amazing speed

Will Choice Specs Swellow become a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:47:13 No.29770143 Report

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>>29769670
what do golurks moves do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:47:59 No.29770166 Report

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>Tyrunt doesn't get stomping tantrum
WHY

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:48:20 No.29770180 Report

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>>29770119
Scheinwerfer is also already used for Luster Purge. So probably Rampenlicht would be the best translation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:49:36 No.29770210 Report

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>>29769062
>Flygon - Dragon Dance
FINALLY!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:50:18 No.29770233 Report

Quoted By: >>29770367

>>29770131
choice specs swellow has been a thing since it got boomburst, it does decent damage and lures in things that expect physical sets i.e. steelix

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:50:47 No.29770249 Report

Quoted By: >>29776251

>>29769062
>Flygon - Dragon Dance
Never ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:51:18 No.29770267 Report

Quoted By: >>29770529

>>29768761
>Mantine
Yes, this will be the new Blissey

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:52:25 No.29770297 Report

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>>29770210
to OU we go

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:52:46 No.29770310 Report

Quoted By: >>29770362

>Psychic Fangs Carvanha
Do you not realize how great this is?
Now Mega Sharpedo can go through its greatest counter, Keldeo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:54:24 No.29770357 Report

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>>29768102
That burn up though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:54:33 No.29770362 Report

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>>29770310
it already had zen headbutt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:54:43 No.29770367 Report

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>>29770233
Yeah but now thanks to Hurrican and more Special Attack it gets more coverage and more power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:55:24 No.29770388 Report

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The elemental monkeys now get Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, and Hydro Cannon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:55:30 No.29770394 Report

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>>29769742
What does Stomping Tantrum do?

>>29770038
Power Trip?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:55:50 No.29770400 Report

Quoted By: >>29770526

>>29770362
Doesnt OHKO Keldeo though, Psychic Fangs definitely gets Strong Jaw boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:56:50 No.29770430 Report

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>>29769765
Klefki is OU though anon said it would be used on UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:57:42 No.29770448 Report

Quoted By: >>29770821

>>29770394
75 base power Ground type move, doubles in base power if the user's last move failed.
I hope misses also count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:57:58 No.29770452 Report

Quoted By: >>29770546

Diancie gets Power Gem

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:58:12 No.29770462 Report

Quoted By: >>29776095

>Flareon doesn't get Flame Lash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 01:59:20 No.29770495 Report

Quoted By: >>29770821

>>29770394
Power Trip is a physical Dark version of Stored Power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:00:26 No.29770526 Report

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>>29770400
Mega, sharp could make it to OU then after a protect the things is going to be covered on all sides

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:00:40 No.29770529 Report

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>>29768761
>>29770267

PT: 111.7608
ST: 217.6759
PS: 58.2824
SS: 108.9560

These values are pretty good, compared to poor Blissey

PT: 66.2230
ST: 460.8706
PS: 23.8315
SS: 89.5789

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:00:57 No.29770546 Report

Quoted By: >>29770720

>>29770452
what about my boy aurorus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:01:23 No.29770561 Report

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>>29769579
Name a single shitmon whose buffs make it not a shitmon. And no Dugtrio and dodrio were never shitmons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:01:55 No.29770575 Report

Quoted By: >>29770638

>>29770561
Mantine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:01:59 No.29770578 Report

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>aerodactyl STILL doesn't get head smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:04:17 No.29770633 Report

Quoted By: >>29770840 >>29770849 >>29771300

>>29769886
You do realize that Gengar now absorbs Toxic Spikes, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:04:25 No.29770638 Report

Quoted By: >>29770849

>>29770575
Sorry mantine is still a shitmon roost or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:04:47 No.29770651 Report

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>>29770561
Bibarel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:06:28 No.29770695 Report

Quoted By: >>29770852 >>29770889

>>29769062
Wait what's Lunge

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:07:18 No.29770720 Report

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>>29770546
never ever sadly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:12:18 No.29770821 Report

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>>29770448
>>29770495
Thanks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:13:15 No.29770840 Report

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>>29770633
>toxic spikes
wow what a great trade off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:13:39 No.29770849 Report

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>>29770633
>absorbing the least common entry hazard is better than turning an EQ weakness into an EQ immunity

keep trying gengarfag

>>29770638
maybe, maybe not with its incoming base HP buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:13:42 No.29770852 Report

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>>29770695
80 BP Bug move

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:15:15 No.29770889 Report

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>>29770695
80 power physical bug move lowers targets attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:16:40 No.29770914 Report

Quoted By: >>29771286

What's Mewtwo's new move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:17:07 No.29770921 Report

Quoted By: >>29771328

>>29769574
Blatant lie.
252+ Atk Choice Band Dodrio Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Klefki: 122-144 (38.3 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Plus any diancie with a +speed nature will fuck it up, its not strong enough to run jolly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:26:16 No.29771156 Report

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>>29768091
Butterfree at last gets some decent flying stab, thanks god

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:31:01 No.29771286 Report

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>>29770914
laser focus
guarantees 1(ONE) critical hit
basically they found a way to make lock on worse
i dont know how they got it into their heads that people actually ever use defensive boosting moves but a lot of things seem to be designed around this huge misinterpretation of every meta since gen 3
its like i went back in time and suddenly someone is trying to fix curselax in the worst possible ways

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:31:33 No.29771300 Report

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>>29770633
>Toxic Spikes
>In doubles

kek

Sticky Web's about the only entry hazard used in doubles, and Gengar's going to fucking hate being affected by that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:32:47 No.29771328 Report

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>>29770921
>252+ Def Klefki

Absolutely fucking NO ONE uses Def+ or 252 Def Klefki.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:43:52 No.29771581 Report

Quoted By: >>29771645 >>29776004

Burn Up is going to be fucking stupid on Arcanine, he'll get STAB Extremespeed after using it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:45:57 No.29771645 Report

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>>29771581
Arcanine will see a lot of use in doubles. Intimidate, Burn Up, ESpeed, WoW, Morning Sun, etc etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:51:38 No.29771783 Report

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>>29770038
>>29770039
>tfw three days ago I told an Anon that Pangoro should get Bullet Punch instead of Sucker Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:55:19 No.29771842 Report

Quoted By: >>29771896

>>29769670
the fuck is gear up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:57:36 No.29771896 Report

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>>29771842
Gamefreak trying to push Plus/Minus, despite them being shit abilities

It raises the attack and special attack of allies (and I'm assuming the user) that have plus/minus. Basically the offensive version of Magnetic Flux

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 02:59:41 No.29771957 Report

Quoted By: >>29772118

>>29769670
>head smash basculin
Neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:06:47 No.29772118 Report

Quoted By: >>29775637

>>29771957
yeah its the fucking shitmon fish that needed it and not aerodactyl or the rhydon line or literally anything else that could actually use it
fuck the fish, fuck sudowoodo, fuck gamefreak
im mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:30:50 No.29772601 Report

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>>29768091
>Pangoro learning bullet punch

That's nice but can a nigga buy a STAB sucker punch? Would he be so broken with a STAB priority.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:34:42 No.29772683 Report

Quoted By: >>29772786

>Nothing for Poliwhirl
>Nothing for Aurorus. NOT EVEN AURORA VEIL

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:36:52 No.29772728 Report

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>>29768141
It's not going to go beyond RU, if that
Still a shitty Staraptor

>>29769062
WoW Froslass might be cool

Also
>Dragon Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:39:05 No.29772772 Report

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>>29768102
>furret
>coil
neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:39:07 No.29772774 Report

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>>29768102
>Furret - Coil

Furret best snek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:39:35 No.29772786 Report

Quoted By: >>29772823

>>29772683
Since it's not in the Dex, I'm not that surprised. It's chances are better in the next game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:40:28 No.29772805 Report

Quoted By: >>29772833

>>29768690
>Wailord
>Noble Roar
>Roar
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:40:59 No.29772814 Report

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>>29768239
>Sound prevention is stupid
It literally shuts down Mega Gardevoirs best attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:41:15 No.29772822 Report

Quoted By: >>29772865 >>29773200

did someone do this manually
http://pastebin.com/WTn4204t

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:41:17 No.29772823 Report

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>>29772786
Are all those mons listed in the dex?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:41:35 No.29772833 Report

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>>29772805
Whales are known to sing, I guess?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:42:15 No.29772846 Report

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>>29770561
Flygon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:43:27 No.29772865 Report

Quoted By: >>29774118

>>29772822
should i do one for tms, i didn't because tms can't be directly compared

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:43:56 No.29772880 Report

Quoted By: >>29772892

DROWZEE AND HYPNO STILL CANT NATURALLY LEARN DREAM EATER

I repeat

DROWZEE AND HYPNO STILL CANT NATURALLY LEARN DREAM EATER

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:44:19 No.29772887 Report

Quoted By:

Just got off work and I haven't been online all day. Can someone link me to what these moves actually do? I get on /vp/ and everyone's jizzing themselves over Burnup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:44:41 No.29772892 Report

Quoted By:

>>29772880
y tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:45:11 No.29772904 Report

Quoted By:

>>29768690
>Seviper - Swords Dance

Hm...shame sucker punch is locked behind a gen 4 tutor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:45:39 No.29772920 Report

Quoted By: >>29773094

Ariados gets Swords Dance

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:47:17 No.29772951 Report

Quoted By:

>>29768091
>Gyarados got Hurricane
>Zapdos still has to use Air Cutter, cant even get fucking Air Slash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:48:45 No.29772990 Report

Quoted By:

>>29769062
>No Garchomp DD

Fug

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:53:20 No.29773094 Report

Quoted By:

>>29772920
He already had that I'm pretty sure. Still can't use it. Shit defenses and 40 speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:57:52 No.29773200 Report

Quoted By: >>29773224

>>29772822
>http://pastebin.com/WTn4204t
So wait, only doduo gets jump kick? All my old 5IV dodrios are worthless? :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 03:59:35 No.29773224 Report

Quoted By:

>>29773200
no, i fucked up and forgot to remove the -(!) things the leaker added so dodrio wasn't included in the list
i'll go fix it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 04:02:38 No.29773293 Report

Quoted By: >>29773321 >>29773327

http://pastebin.com/zyLkAFbs
there i fixed it, thank for the catch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 04:03:55 No.29773321 Report

Quoted By:

>>29773293
also i noticed hoenn starters are goofed because the data from ORAS came from the demo, where all the level up shit was scraped

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 04:04:20 No.29773327 Report

Quoted By:

>>29773293
oh thank god. thanks, anon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 04:06:24 No.29773369 Report

Quoted By:

What does Spotlight do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 04:46:21 No.29774118 Report

Quoted By: >>29777816

>>29772865
http://pastebin.com/4Tg2N5Tf
compiled TM changes too
let me know if you see anything wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 04:51:34 No.29774194 Report

Quoted By:

>>29769791
Ledian got Air Slash.

Lunatone got Power Gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:22:30 No.29774633 Report

Quoted By: >>29774779

Can someone tell me what High Horsepower does

Google didn't tell me any details

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:32:54 No.29774779 Report

Quoted By:

>>29774633
95 BP/acc Ground move. The fucking donkey learns it by level a few levels before learning Earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:36:00 No.29774834 Report

Quoted By: >>29774876

Is there any infodump on the new moves anywhere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:37:47 No.29774876 Report

Quoted By: >>29775061

>>29774834
https://paste. ee/r/mvJ70
remove spaces between paste. and ee

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:46:38 No.29775061 Report

Quoted By: >>29775086

>>29774876
Thanks anon, here's a qt for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:47:44 No.29775086 Report

Quoted By:

>>29775061
>best girl
Thanks very much anon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:49:55 No.29775139 Report

Quoted By: >>29775213 >>29775226

>>29768102
>Mankey - Power Trip
>Primeape - Stomping Tantrum

Someone pls
What do these attacks do for my boi

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:52:52 No.29775213 Report

Quoted By:

>>29775139
Power Trip is physical Dark Stored Power.
Stomping Tantrum is a 75 power Ground move that doubles in power if the user's previous attack failed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:53:38 No.29775226 Report

Quoted By: >>29775344

>>29775139
Power Trip Read the fucking thread
Stomping Tantrum or just ctrl+f and search for http

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:56:33 No.29775296 Report

Quoted By:

>>29768102
>Furret - Coil
Oh. Shit. My bro's gonna wreck some shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:57:53 No.29775324 Report

Quoted By:

>give Suicune Sheer Cold cancer back
>but Raikou/Entei don't get any of their old event moves back
alright, who's the fag at GF with Suicune as their favourite

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:58:44 No.29775342 Report

Quoted By:

>>29768690
>Solrock - Flare Blitz
WHY AREN'T YOU A REGIONAL POKEMON?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:58:53 No.29775344 Report

Quoted By: >>29776251

>>29775226
(you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 05:59:43 No.29775363 Report

Quoted By: >>29775404 >>29775475

>they nerfed Sucker Punch
I mean it's just 10 points, but goddamn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:01:29 No.29775404 Report

Quoted By:

>>29775363
And Extreme Speed didn't budge! What the fuck. My man Bisharp is a little less of a man now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:02:34 No.29775427 Report

Quoted By:

I can't seem to find the thread for the new moves' effects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:05:17 No.29775475 Report

Quoted By:

>>29775363
80bp priority move is a bit too good especially when you have things like Kangaskhan and Mawile running around with it

It didn't need to the nerf but it's more balanced

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:05:48 No.29775479 Report

Quoted By: >>29775816 >>29775871

So Toxic Thread is a 100% accuracy Toxic that lower's the enemy speed on top of that?
I like it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:07:34 No.29775518 Report

Quoted By: >>29777320

>>29769062
>Carvanha - Psychic Fangs
Strong Jaw boosted Psychic type attack
>Flygon - Dragon Dance
Finally
>Bibarel - Swords Dance & Aqua Jet
Simple Swords Dance. It's all fucking over now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:16:06 No.29775637 Report

Quoted By:

>>29772118
>he hates sudowoodo

I hope your bro never gets buffed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:17:28 No.29775657 Report

Quoted By: >>29776470

>Alolan Raichu doesn't learn Surf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:28:31 No.29775816 Report

Quoted By: >>29775865

>>29775479
Toxic already never missed when used by a Poison type anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:31:23 No.29775865 Report

Quoted By:

>>29775816
he means it should be like 80% because of the second effect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:31:44 No.29775871 Report

Quoted By: >>29775898

What the fuck does Noble Roar do?

>>29775479
Does it badly poison or just poison?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:33:09 No.29775898 Report

Quoted By:

>>29775871
Lowers both attack stats, it's not new though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:35:02 No.29775928 Report

Quoted By: >>29777836

>>29768102
QUIVER DANCE BELLOSSOM?

Sucks that Vileplume didn't get some sort of move also but quiver dance is a game changer for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:41:14 No.29776004 Report

Quoted By: >>29776088 >>29776145

>>29771581
What is Burn Up anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:48:32 No.29776085 Report

Quoted By:

>>29770073
it's a robot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:48:46 No.29776088 Report

Quoted By:

>>29776004
130 fire move, after using, you stop being fire type, i guess either trades for normal type or removes it completely, and if mono-type then turns you into normal

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:49:13 No.29776095 Report

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>>29770462
F-fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:51:56 No.29776135 Report

Quoted By: >>29777182

>>29768141
>steel wing
way to be redundant
slap return or even fucking facade
pursuit and quick attack are also worthy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:52:36 No.29776145 Report

Quoted By: >>29776183

>>29776004
130 BP Fire SpA move that removes the user's fire type after use. Arcanine is pure Fire so presumably it would turn normal, giving it STAB ESpeed. Arcanine already uses Overheat in doubles so this seems like a relly good option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:56:39 No.29776183 Report

Quoted By: >>29776212

>>29776145
>Arcanine uses Burn up and turns into a normal type
>Trick or Treat ghost typing to it
>Normal/Ghost Arcanine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 06:58:32 No.29776212 Report

Quoted By: >>29777189

>>29776183
For what purpose
Marshadow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 07:01:12 No.29776251 Report

Quoted By:

>>29770249
and is STILL shit for OU standards because it needed it at least 3 gens ago to be OU

>>29770561
>dugtrio and dodrio were never shitmons
>dodrio
>not a shitmon
ebin meme

>>29775344
fuck off reddit
he's right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 07:18:36 No.29776462 Report

Quoted By:

>>29768141
Don't forget swords dance, I'm betting this will get up to RU for sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 07:19:24 No.29776470 Report

Quoted By:

>>29775657
How could they fuck up this badly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 08:31:18 No.29777182 Report

Quoted By:

>>29776135
Mega Diancie anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 08:32:26 No.29777189 Report

Quoted By: >>29777227

>>29776212
because normal/ghost is a godly typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 08:37:16 No.29777215 Report

Quoted By:

>>29768777
ME TOO! So annoying :/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 08:39:12 No.29777227 Report

Quoted By: >>29777264

>>29777189
Normal/Ghost is only a godly typing for switching in with it's 3 immunities.

Once you're actually out, it does very little since only Fighting is really that common. It's a FANTASTIC Pivot Typing, but it's a lackluster Defensive Typing.

Offensively, it's ok - nearly unresisted which is nice (Except T-Tar and Bisharp), but it only hits two (uncommon) types for SE damage, which is pretty poor.

On top of that, Arcanine doesn't get any ghost moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 08:53:36 No.29777264 Report

Quoted By:

>>29777227
Good news though, you can use Soak on your now-Normal Arcanine and get the Water type dog everyone wanted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 08:54:46 No.29777273 Report

Quoted By: >>29777297 >>29777312 >>29777318 >>29777385

Did Masquerain happen to get buffed at all besides learning Lunge as Surskit?
I just want best bug to get something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:03:45 No.29777297 Report

Quoted By: >>29777384

>>29777273
Stats up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:07:55 No.29777312 Report

Quoted By: >>29777384 >>29777385

>>29777273
Can't find image but it said it got +40 BST
70/60/62/100*/82/80* (20 to SpAtk/Speed)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:08:35 No.29777318 Report

Quoted By: >>29777384 >>29777385

>>29777273
+40 BST.
...I think. Might be misremembering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:08:54 No.29777320 Report

Quoted By:

>>29775518
Stop being such a prick and post it already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:09:52 No.29777330 Report

Quoted By:

>>29768091
tearful look?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:11:08 No.29777332 Report

Quoted By: >>29777356

Multiple people said that Gale Wings got nerfed and that it is possible to get Zygarde Complete after collecting all the cores and cells, though I'd love to get both of these claims either confirmed or debunked

Zygarde Complete is a mess, GF raped its speed stat, barely increased sp atk and HP was the only thing that got increased heavily. To add more insult to injury, Core Enforcer is a fucking special attack move rip

ty in advance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:11:22 No.29777334 Report

Quoted By: >>29777360

What happened to unaware?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:16:18 No.29777356 Report

Quoted By:

>>29777332
That it is possible to get Complete forme as a permanent pokemon and not a shit tier gimmick with a lame in battle transformation*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:17:14 No.29777360 Report

Quoted By:

>>29777334

Only works when the Pokemon with it attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:21:00 No.29777384 Report

Quoted By:

>>29777297
>>29777312
>>29777318
Ah, thank you!
I kind of screamed a little, Masquerain's been a favourite of mine and just knowing that it has been buffed even a little has made me really fucking happy.
Thank you Gamefreak for giving it even the smallest sliver of a chance.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:21:03 No.29777385 Report

Quoted By:

>>29777273
>>29777312
>>29777318

She got buffed 100 Sp. Atk and 80 Spd.

She'll actually be usable in PU, which is about all that anyone could ask for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:21:31 No.29777396 Report

Quoted By:

>>29768197
Basically it's a big FUCK YOU M-GARDEVOIR from Weavile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:23:29 No.29777416 Report

Quoted By: >>29777430

>>29770561
Peiper is only weather stter with u-turn, it has reliable recovery, hurricane 100% accuracy for bulky grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:28:57 No.29777430 Report

Quoted By:

>>29777416
Pelliper*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:32:05 No.29777467 Report

Quoted By: >>29777589

>>29768091

what does Burn Up do?

and for that matter, Flame Lash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:32:06 No.29777468 Report

Quoted By:

Aerodactyl with Head Smash and Brave Bird when?
Delphox with Thunderbolt when?
Literally the only additional moves I want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:45:25 No.29777589 Report

Quoted By: >>29777620 >>29777633

>>29777467
Burn Up is a 130(?) BP fire attack that removes fire type from opponent (Changes mono-fire to Normal)

Flame Lash is fire attack that reduces target's defense (Heatmor exclusive).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:49:13 No.29777620 Report

Quoted By:

>>29777589
>Heatmor gets an exclusive move now
who would have thought

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 09:49:34 No.29777633 Report

Quoted By:

>>29777589

Does the Pokémon stay that way or do they change back like with Roost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 10:09:33 No.29777816 Report

Quoted By:

>>29774118
Cubchoo
Draco-Meteor new TM/Tutor move!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 10:11:46 No.29777836 Report

Quoted By:

>>29775928
It gets Growth and can be a decent sun sweeper now

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