/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #29786461

[39 / 3 / ?]

560KiB, 1065x600, fuckgf.png

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 20:53:32 No.29786461 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29786565 >>29786653 >>29786687 >>29786984 >>29787069 >>29787124 >>29787329 >>29787485

seriously? 43 speed? such low attack? into the trash it goes. or is there any usability I'm overlooking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 20:59:30 No.29786565 Report

Quoted By: >>29786585 >>29786628

>>29786461

It's better to be slow than be in the middle ground where you're too fast to be benefit from Trick Room, but too slow to be good normally

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:00:29 No.29786585 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786565
But perfect enough to be in tailwind

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:01:59 No.29786628 Report

Quoted By: >>29787161

>>29786565
i really dont see trickroom become viable again , but then I guess a life orb all out attacker could work

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:03:32 No.29786653 Report

Quoted By: >>29786692 >>29786975 >>29787157

>>29786461
This thing at max 252 EV's in Speed and positive nature after an Agility outspeeds Weavile.
I'm not sure if it makes it more usefull, but this is definetly what I'm gonna run with HP Ice, Thunderbolt/Discharge and Roost with Life Orb. Gonna be tought, but I love this thing to much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:05:41 No.29786687 Report

Quoted By: >>29786714

>>29786461
>such low attack
nigga its electric type why do you want attack on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:05:50 No.29786692 Report

Quoted By: >>29786811

>>29786653
>This thing at max 252 EV's in Speed and positive nature after an Agility outspeeds Weavile.

how? after an agility it has a base speed of 86 and weaviles have speed investement too. the nature alone is far from flipping that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:06:18 No.29786698 Report

Quoted By: >>29786868

Is there a list of Pokemon/stats anywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:06:54 No.29786714 Report

Quoted By: >>29786946 >>29786956

>>29786687
for powerful u turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:11:50 No.29786811 Report

Quoted By: >>29786919

>>29786692
That's not how stay increases work. It doesn't increase the base, it increases the actual stat. So at 43 base, it reaches 203 with a +Spe nature. At +2 Speed, it doubles. So that's 406 speed!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:14:26 No.29786868 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786698

https://paste ee/r/zYMUr

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:17:41 No.29786919 Report

Quoted By: >>29786948

>>29786811
I always thought in the end thats exactly what it would end up being. like when a mon has 60 base speed max speed positive nature after agility will be as fast as a 120 base speed max speed positive nature.

seems like i underestimated boosting moves though i used them quite a bunch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:19:28 No.29786946 Report

Quoted By: >>29786964

>>29786714
What is volt switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:19:36 No.29786948 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786919
Yeah, I thought the same for a really long time. Since I don't know the calculations for how base stats determine the final max stats I can't really explain why it works like that, but it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:20:18 No.29786956 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786714
Volt Switch faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:20:55 No.29786964 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786946
immune to ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:21:36 No.29786975 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786653
Thank god not everyone is retarded and some people realize it has agility + 145 satk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:22:02 No.29786984 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786461
>low attack
>when it has 145 SAtk
what

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:23:38 No.29787018 Report

Quoted By: >>29787330

Anyone knows how to get it? My Charjabug is at 40 but still hasn't evolved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:26:13 No.29787069 Report

Quoted By: >>29787088 >>29787112

>>29786461
woas hoping for
HP: 77
Atk: 30
Def: 90
SpA: 125
SpD: 75
Spe:103

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:27:14 No.29787088 Report

Quoted By: >>29787112

>>29787069
HP: 77
Atk: 30
Def: 90
SpA: 115
SpD: 75
Spe:113
would be nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:28:33 No.29787112 Report

Quoted By:

>>29787069
>>29787088
Either of these would have been worlds better than the shit that we got.
How could they ruin a near perfect design with such shit speed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:29:15 No.29787124 Report

Quoted By: >>29787170

>>29786461
>Drop attack to 60's
>Defense to 70's
>Special attack to 120
>Add those and 40 into speed

Fixed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:30:47 No.29787147 Report

Quoted By:

so how would y'all play this then?

252 spatk speed ; 4 def timid @focus sash/ lifeorb/expertbelt?

agility
bug buzz
energyball
thunderbolt/voltswitch/ chargebeam ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:31:14 No.29787157 Report

Quoted By: >>29787196 >>29787330

>>29786653
I Think a better Moveset would be
-Agility (obviously)
-Thunderbolt/Voltswitch(STAB and Useful pivot)
-Bug Buzz (Strong STAB)
-HP Water (To deal with its only weaknesses)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:31:46 No.29787161 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786628
Does Trick Room benefit from the new Terrain enhancing item?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:32:19 No.29787170 Report

Quoted By:

>>29787124
With Quiver Dance, that would be perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:33:31 No.29787196 Report

Quoted By:

>>29787157
>HP Water (To deal with its only weaknesses)
rock and fire are its only weaknesses, but both are so common in coverage that I personally dont think youll get much out of HP water

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 276.png, 5KiB, 246x237

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:38:13 No.29787275 Report

Quoted By: >>29787313

So what's the likelihood some stats were nerfed in the leaky version, and the actual retail version that goes up next week has the TRUE stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:39:36 No.29787296 Report

Quoted By: >>29787326

It's an early game bug. Were you guys really expecting it to be good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:40:13 No.29787313 Report

Quoted By:

>>29787275
Less than 0.1%, and that's generous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:41:18 No.29787326 Report

Quoted By:

>>29787296
but anon it is good in trick room

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:41:23 No.29787329 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786461
I expected it to be a slow High SpA and that's what we got.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:41:28 No.29787330 Report

Quoted By: >>29787388

>>29787018
level up at the electric rock
>>29787157
better off with flash cannon or energy ball to hit specific threats with a decent BP move. STAB thunderbolt (135BP) hits harder than SE HPwater (120BP). you can just switch out on fire-types since most of them have nothing to deal with water unless they're in the sun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:45:25 No.29787388 Report

Quoted By:

>>29787330
>yfw it gets scald as a tm or tutor move

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:50:08 No.29787485 Report

Quoted By:

>>29786461
A slow, powerful Volt Switch is actually very useful.

Discharge's paralysis chance can somehow compensate for the low speed too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:54:45 No.29787568 Report

Quoted By: >>29787613

Where the fuck is the leak video? YT is full of obnoxious clickbait.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO HNI_0002.jpg, 90KiB, 557x600

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:56:53 No.29787596 Report

Quoted By:

It's a shame. I really wanted it to be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Nov 2016 21:57:21 No.29787613 Report

Quoted By:

>>29787568
Kaphotics

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches