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So SuMo is basically 4chan's equiv of out, as everyone with a decent computer and great internet speed now has access to the game. And what happens? 4chan pulls a 4chan and does nothing but bitch about it. I'm not really shocked, to be fair. But now that I've seen it spread into other places like the showdown, serebii, smogon and reddit chats I've seen the same complaints boggled around. How about we fuck em>Not even 100 new pokemon AGAIN? Did you want another Pokemon Black? Where everything has to be redone just to fit the quota of "Rock thing, check. Fighting 3 stage, check" like the goddamn motions? 100 new mons would've sapped resources from some of the best new designs in the gen and put them towards shitmons everyone would've still complained about. I'm sure it's evident that the only reason Chimecho, Girafarig, Maractus and Bouffalant exist was to inflate their regional pokedex.>It's not muh golden age of Platinum/HGSS/Emerald/Black2 You know what? I'm a little sad too. I do miss some of what those games had to offer. But you know what else I like? New shit. Every generation people bitch about their favorite 1 note feature being gone in the next game. Would I love a game with pokemon that follow you, an expansive battle frontier, integrated move tutors, riding pokemon, contests, poffins, safari zones, secret bases, soaring, the underground, diving, balanced megas, boutiques, berry farms, join avenue? HELL YES, I almost autistically drooled typing that. But that is so much more than most people would be willing to wade through, and they need some new shit or the complaints would be about nothing new. UBs, Z-moves, and the Poke-Ride system are neat concepts, and they may not return in the future. Boo.>Really? Everything's too fucking slow. Welcome to Aslowla Yeah, you're right. A lot of the new mons are too slow. But you know what isn't? The 300 other mons in the alolan dex. You still have Gengar, Crobat and about 15 more all have 80~ speed.
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Maybe you just need to come to terms with the fact that people were disappointed and not everyone has your opinion.
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The whole "quality>quantity" argument for more new Pokemon never made sense. You can't objectively argue for it because the appeal of Pokemon designs are too subjective. Guess what? There are still plenty of people out there that will hate a dex, regardless of the numbers. More new Pokemon opens the chance for more quality of fan-favorites, not magically decreases it.
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>you should be glad with the pokemon you DID get! Quality > Quantity! >it's okay if the new pokemon are terrible, just use the old pokemon!
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>le quality over quantity Most of the dex is shitmons. I could ALMOST see this argument for gen 6 where a lot of the Pokemon were actually surprisingly usable (even the usual shit early route bird and rodent) but here it doesn't stand at all. And designs are too subjective to measure quality for. I liked most of gen 5's designs and I hate most of gen 2's.
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>>29794134 I think what has a lot of people in a fit about things is that they want to use all alolan mons when in reality the whole rest of the dex exists! So use it.
One more thing in response to what I've been seeing here
>le quality over quantity I haven't argued (or at least haven't meant to) that the alolan mons are objectively good. Almost all of them are RU>, and their designs can be a bit over stylized, and the UBs are really splitting. But I think they're far better than a ton of the BW shitmons we got. Seriously, if you thought this gen was bad, gen 5 was the king of polarity between winners and stinkers. Maractus. Heatmor, The Monkeys, Watchog. Unfezant. Zebstrika. Beheeyem, Basculin, Swoobat, Audino, and more all fall into the category of a fairly rehashed idea made to fit into the new dex. And they suck. No one gives a batshit about them, and I believe that without the pressure of 100+ new mons to fill the dex, some of them would've been quality controlled or made more original.
Can people agree with that? Legitimately.
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>SuMo We know it's you
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>>29794134 >>Not even 100 new pokemon AGAIN? Damn it's like people want to see more Pokemon in a new Pokemon game. In a game series where the focus is on the Pokemon you'd think they'd include more Pokemon.
They don't have to include as much as in BW but they could've included 100 at least. If they spent more the two years on the game we probably would've gotten at least that amount and more content in the game overall.
>>It's not muh golden age of Platinum/HGSS/Emerald/Black2 So it's bad that people want more content? Look, Pokemon is a hella successful series, and GF makes more than enough money to spend more time on game development and adding new content. This is a 20th anniversary game and this title has less content the games released years ago. That speaks levels about the priorities GF has and how the games are going to be from now on.
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>>29794948 Maybe if they stopped churning them out like COD, then they have more content.
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>>29794604 >I think what has a lot of people in a fit about things is that they want to use all alolan mons when in reality the whole rest of the dex exists! So use it. Ah yes, because that's what I want out of new pokemon games - to use the same old pokemon from previous Gens.
>But I think they're far better than a ton of the BW shitmons we got. Seriously, if you thought this gen was bad, gen 5 was the king of polarity between winners and stinkers. Maractus. Heatmor, The Monkeys, Watchog. Unfezant. Zebstrika. Beheeyem, Basculin, Swoobat, Audino, and more all fall into the category of a fairly rehashed idea made to fit into the new dex. And they suck. No one gives a batshit about them, and I believe that without the pressure of 100+ new mons to fill the dex, some of them would've been quality controlled or made more original. >Maractus, Heatmor, Beheeyem, Audino Man, you have some pretty shit taste. If you were arguing for viability, sure, but their designs are pretty solid. Certainly no worse than some of the designs we got in SuMo.
It's not as if SuMo is devoid of filler either. We get the token regional bird. The token two stage rodent-esque. The token pikachu clone. And what about the lantern fish? We've had one of those before. And a pokemon based upon Trilobites and Isopods, both of which we've seen the likes of before. Or another mushroom pokemon. Or another water skater pokemon. Or another elemental horse which is somehow ok, but an elemental zebra is not. And then you have alolan pokemon which are literally just old pokemon touched up.
Your Quality over Quantity argument doesn't work. Proportionally I see about as many rehashes and useless pokemon in this game as there was in GenV, except at least GenV didn't reserve quite so much space in it's pokedex for legendaries.
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>>29795285 >>29794948 >>29794604 >>29794245 >>29794226 >>29794194 >>29794179 And shills say /vp/ doesn't unanimously hate SuMo.
Folks, we're looking at the most hated game in the series and of the decade. Have fun!
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>>29794134 >Quality over quantity Taste is subjective. If anything, having so little new pokemon is worse than having just a few.
>But you know what isn't? The 300 other mons in the alolan dex. God forbid people want the new pokemon to be good.
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>>29794134 >SuMo Stop this
I never shit on the games, but you can not justify most of the dex being sub 100 speed, I think the games look great but please don't try with that, especially by reminding me that they nerfed my favorite pokemon for no reason.
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>>29794134 I am with this nigga, ma nigga, he is fucking right and you know it
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beside, if you play in competitive (not smogon tiers, the real competitive VCG) the most usefull pokemon are slow, because the best trainers used priority, trick roon and status effect. Plus, all of you are really retarded, Gengar not was nerfed, was improved. In VGC 2016 maybe levitate gives to him inmunity to earth but in VCG 2017 he can get venefist of all terrain, geting protection from priority, sleep, busting Psychic (he can learn). Remember, Nintendo and Pokemon Company no tink in smogon tiers, they tink in his own tier, VCG
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>>29794134 >So SuMo Stopped reading there
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I rather have a low pokemon count but they are all nice then have 50% filler and trickroom exists for the "muh speed" fags...
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I would love another pokemon black actually
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>>29794604 Aside from their shit stats/movepool most of those pokes are pretty cool.
Except the monkeys. I've never met anyone who likes them.
If it had the stats and moves to backituo I bet Zebstrika would have been pretty popular since it looks baller as hell.
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Can somebody explain what the deal about Mina's trial is?