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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 04:57:57 No.29845494 View View Reply Original Report

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>All the EV and Shiny methods from XY are gone
>No easy egg hatching route
>Removal of HMs
>Removal of Gyms
>Removal of National Dex
>Can't catch Pokémon outside of the Alola Dex
>Removal of Dexnav
>Lack of New Pokemon
>Even less of a Post-Game than XY
>Stats of most of the new Pokemon are disappointing
>Removal of Horde Battles
>Removal of Triple and Rotation Battles
>No Trail Captain/Elite Four nor Totem Pokemon rematches
Can we agree that SM is the worst mainline game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:00:04 No.29845542 Report

Quoted By: >>29845746 >>29846483

who the fuck cares about half that shit when you can just inject?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:00:17 No.29845547 Report

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>>29845494
We CAN refight important trainers like trial captains, and the removal of the battle types with 6 mons on the field at once is probably due to the engine being unable to handle that number of Pokemon along with having trainers out at the same time, but yeah most of those aspects you mentioned are dulling my hype drastically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:07:47 No.29845711 Report

Quoted By: >>29846550 >>29846879

>All the EV and Shiny methods from XY are gone
Pokemon that are called for help have increased EV gains, and you can use both the Festival and Pelago to raise EVs.
>No easy egg hatching route
Confirmed for not having played the game. There's a LONG FUCKING STRAIGHT LINE right next to the fucking daycare
>Removal of HMs
How is this bad?
>Removal of Gyms
They're replaced with Totem Pokemon that actually have strategies worth a damn, and Grand Trials. How is this bad?
>Removal of National Dex
I won't excuse this.
>Can't catch Pokémon outside of the Alola Dex
You can, actually. Use the QR code scanning feature.
>Removal of Dexnav
Yeah that sucks.
>Lack of New Pokemon
More than X/Y.
>Even less of a Post-Game than XY
Blatantly false. You've got UBs and Tapu's to catch, Battle Tree, the Looker quest, defending your champion title, collecting Zygarde cells and cores, Elite 4 and Trial Captain rematches, getting Necrozma, getting Cosmog in the other game's world, etc.
>Stats of most of the new Pokemon are disappointing
ok
>Removal of Horde Battles
They sucked anyway desu, only worth it for the EV training and there are other options in S/M
>Removal of Triple and Rotation Battles
Yeah it's fucked, but they DID add Battle Royale
>No Trail Captain/Elite Four nor Totem Pokemon rematches
Blatantly false, there ARE rematches.

S/M isn't perfect, but it's actually pretty damn good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:09:18 No.29845740 Report

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Once the game comes out more people can hate/circle jerk whatever you want to call it in peace perhaps. Gamefreak has claimed to listen to fans but for starters we can assume it's Japan only and second listening is different from doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:09:36 No.29845746 Report

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>>29845542
>'Who cares about playing the game when you can just not play it?'

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:10:11 No.29845763 Report

Quoted By: >>29845793 >>29846024

I've seen a few people say there's no national Dex. What the fuck do you mean there's no national dex. Did they really exclude a full Pokedex with all the Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:11:24 No.29845790 Report

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Dont you get tired of making these threads all day

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:11:37 No.29845793 Report

Quoted By: >>29845823 >>29846711

>>29845763
Yeah, the game doesn't let you use any Pokémon outside of the Alola Dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:12:58 No.29845823 Report

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>>29845793
Doesn't LET you use? I've seen plenty of videos of people using non-alolan dex Pokemon.
Mew got its own Z-Move and its not in the alola dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:13:59 No.29845839 Report

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>>29845494
Literally half the things you listed are unequivocally, objectively wrong.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:14:20 No.29845848 Report

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>>29845494
>removal of gyms

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:15:13 No.29845863 Report

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I'm hoping they'll patch in a national dex when Pokemon Bank support gets added.

Because at the moment, there isn't even a way to legally obtain non-alolan dex pokemon. There's no point in having a national dex if you cant get any of the pokemon in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:16:07 No.29845876 Report

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>>29845494
Triple battles are completely gone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:19:03 No.29845922 Report

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>>29845494
>Removal of HMs

For years you people bitch about how HMs are mandatory, now it's a bad thing that they're gone?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:20:46 No.29845954 Report

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>>29845922

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:25:06 No.29846024 Report

Quoted By: >>29846594

>>29845763
People are literally bitching that they can't read the dex entries for old Pokémon not in the Alolan dex.

The game still adds a ton of Pokémon in post game, gives you the shiny charm, and does everything the national dex has ever done. It just doesn't have pokedex entries Because those were added to Bank where everyone stores their living dex anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:42:30 No.29846318 Report

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>on shinies

So hordes and navs are gone, but there is the allymons thing. Is chain fishing still a mechanic? Are there other new shiny chance mechanics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:44:41 No.29846349 Report

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>>29845494
how big is the map?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:46:38 No.29846377 Report

Quoted By: >>29846427 >>29846797

>>29845494
Wait, you can seriously only battle the E4 once?
How do you grind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:49:45 No.29846427 Report

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>>29846377
You can battle the Elite 4 multiple times, and they even have a rematch team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:51:48 No.29846456 Report

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>>29845494

Fuck HM's tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:53:53 No.29846483 Report

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>>29845542

If I'm going to inject, i may as well just play Showdown instead

>hurr durr smogon ban errythang dough :v(

Then you can simply play the format that 100% emulates the Battle Spot rules. They even have formats that emulate the special competitions such as VGC and *Region* Friendlies that the battle spot sometimes hosts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 05:59:00 No.29846550 Report

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>>29845711
this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:02:21 No.29846594 Report

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>>29846024
>a ton
If by a ton you mean literally 20, then yeah, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:05:31 No.29846640 Report

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>>29845494
No, because you said that removal of HMs was a bad thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:08:53 No.29846691 Report

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i just beat the 4th trial (i admit lurantis did wipe me once, the synthesis abusing bitch) and I have to agree with every point in the OP

this game is a massive disappointment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:09:25 No.29846705 Report

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>>29845494

Red and Green exist, so no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:09:46 No.29846711 Report

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>>29845793
Is that what people whining about the National Dex believe ?
No national dex just means you can't view them in a dex and there's no completion incentive (the shiny charm is given to you if you complete the regional dex instead)
You can still use non-regional Pokémon. Some of them are accessible with the QR code feature.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:10:24 No.29846725 Report

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>>29845494

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:10:29 No.29846728 Report

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>>29845494
If you had actually played the fucking game you would have added in the appalling frame rate and technical issues. Game is so fucking bad. Gamefreak are incompetent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:15:06 No.29846795 Report

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>>29845494
Oh look, another /v/ shitposter who didn't play the game.

>All the EV and Shiny methods from XY are gone
They are replaced by equally if not more efficient methods (one is so passive it can be done with the 3DS turned off)
>No easy egg hatching route
Route 6 is LITERALLY designed for this
>Removal of HMs
This is bad? Are you insane?
>Removal of Gyms
Trials are more interesting and you still get story NPC battles, which are infinitely better and more interesting than anything in gen 6
>Removal of National Dex
Sure
>Can't catch Pokémon outside of the Alola Dex
You can with QR scanner and maybe Poke Pelago
>Removal of Dexnav
Alright
>Lack of New Pokemon
Not as big of a problem as the fact that most of the new Pokemon are shitmons
>Even less of a Post-Game than XY
Absolutely and utterly false, there is more postgame than both XY and BW1.
>Stats of most of the new Pokemon are disappointing
Yep.
>Removal of Horde Battles
No one liked them except for EV training
>Removal of Triple and Rotation Battles
Sucks, but most people didn't play them
>No Trail Captain/Elite Four nor Totem Pokemon rematches
There are captain and E4 rematches, with a very cool twist in the case of the latter. The final fight is a random NPC trainer trying to take your Champion title

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:15:13 No.29846797 Report

Quoted By: >>29846830

>>29846377
So many rumours created by retards like OP who can't be bothered to check their facts before complaining about games they didn't play. November 18 can't come soon enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:16:50 No.29846816 Report

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>>29845494

Did you hate that Gen 5 made TMs infinite? How the fuck is having no HMs bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:17:48 No.29846830 Report

Quoted By: >>29847474

>>29846797
Games been leaked for like 5 days now everyone and their mum has already played/completed it.

S/M fags go out of there way to defend a shitty game every thread they can

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:21:39 No.29846879 Report

Quoted By: >>29846921

>>29845711
Thank you for this post, anon. I'm seeing a lot of complaining going around, and seeing some legitimate facts about the game is easing my mind.

Only 6 days until I can judge for myself. Bless people like who you keep hope alive until then.

Also, don't Pokémon that were called for help have increased shiny rates, too? I thought I saw some datamined info mentioning that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:25:25 No.29846921 Report

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>>29846879
Oh! Thanks, friend! Here, let me give you these in return. They’re Adrenaline Orbs. Don’t you feel like the Pokémon that other Pokémon call to help them in battle are, like, stronger? And even more likely to be Shiny?
Seems like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 07:07:03 No.29847474 Report

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>>29846830
Yeah sure, everyone played/completed it, that's why this board is riddled with people that ask really basic things about the game, or tell blatantly false information that was disproved countless times already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 08:00:26 No.29848167 Report

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>>29845494
>All the EV and Shiny methods from XY are gone
Yeah, you're right, this sucks a lot
>No easy egg hatching route
At least day care dont level up our Pokémon anymore and make us run for heart scale
>Removal of HMs
This actually a good thing and dont change to much, HMs were pointless since Gen V
>Removal of Gyms
This is plot-based, Alola is a new region, they are building it
>Removal of National Dex
What? Sources
>Can't catch Pokémon outside of the Alola Dex
Like the first 4 generations [?]
>Removal of Dexnav
Expected lol
>Lack of New Pokemon
Also exoected
>Even less of a Post-Game than XY
Ok, right again
>Stats of most of the new Pokemon are disappointing
Source: OPisamazing.com
>Removal of Horde Battles
Right again, but also expected
>Removal of Triple and Rotation Battles
Right again, I'm still dont understanding why they did it
>No Trail Captain/Elite Four nor Totem Pokemon rematches
Rematches are gone since XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 08:04:46 No.29848226 Report

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>>29845494
>already complaining about the new game being shit
Like clockwork. I'll give it a month or two before people here start praising XY :^)

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