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>>29846757
>the main thing keeping it out of OU was its lack of Bullet Punch afaik, and now it has it

No it wasnt
Its slow and super easy to revenge kill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:28:00 No.29846953 Report

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>>29846824
This. But it will still fit in perfectly with all the other shitmon we got this gen. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:33:50 No.29847027 Report

Quoted By: >>29847040

>>29846953
Yeah, in UU. The new bad Pokemon won't replace the old good Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:34:03 No.29847029 Report

Quoted By: >>29847045 >>29848476

>>29846823
>>29846824
Well it still patches up its lack of priority

I think it's a lot better now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:34:36 No.29847040 Report

Quoted By: >>29847061

>>29847027
Likely lower than UU, friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:35:07 No.29847045 Report

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>>29847029
Pangoro doesn't even need priority, that's the last of its problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:36:09 No.29847061 Report

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>>29847040
Which ones are you talking about specifically? Many of them are UU material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:38:12 No.29847096 Report

Quoted By: >>29847158

>>29846667
Na, Priority still kicks this thing's ass. BUT, outside of that, it's going to be pretty good on some niche hail teams.

Hail in general will see more play thanks to this guy. 130 attack and a temp speed boost is nothing to scoff at. It's like the Hail version Kabutops. SD in the weather will make it amazing. Outside of that...it's gonna struggle a tad.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:42:58 No.29847158 Report

Quoted By: >>29847199

>>29847096
The hail version will still be shit compared to the rain version. Rain gives him the same speed boost, protects him from fire attacks and allows more team variety since Rain also supports water type, grass type and electric type mons.
Hail in general is the most useless team archetype. No amount of dedicated Pokemon will change that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:44:28 No.29847169 Report

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I think it will do better in rain than in hail. Icicle crash STAB complements rain, it can now OHKO keldeo and Terra with play rough, and also outrun them without scarfes. Superpower kills Heatran as well as Ferro after swords dance. And rain gives it STAB on aqua jet. Scizor rapes it, and it'll be NU tops like most weather sweepers, but it'll be useful

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:46:43 No.29847199 Report

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>>29847158
DESU, it's less about the hail and more about the attack buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:55:40 No.29847335 Report

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>>29846774
He ate some pretty good shrooms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 06:57:04 No.29847355 Report

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>>29846823
>Is anyone on this board actually halfway decent at competitive?
I think that's pretty obvious when everyone on the board got their shit kicked in by a Honchkrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 08:20:19 No.29848416 Report

Quoted By: >>29849496

What old mons are going to rise up and claim their place in OU, now?

My prospects are Dugtrio, maybe Mantine, maybe Pelipper too if rain becomes a big thing again, and Bibarel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 08:22:33 No.29848443 Report

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>>29846667
>>29846695
I dont like Smogon and still look at its tiers. I cant tell if OP is bating or just stupid. Sadly it will not likely rise to OU but will definitely have a rise to some degree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 08:25:18 No.29848476 Report

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>>29846757
>>29847029
>main thing keeping it out of OU was its lack of Bullet Punch afaik
Nigger what
The thing is slow as fuck, having a priority move isn't going to instantly put it in OU
It's defenses and a 4x weakness to Fairy also are pretty fucking bad for something with already pretty weak stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 08:31:00 No.29848537 Report

Quoted By: >>29848563

>>29846667
>>29846757
first thing to fix these guys is too Give them some of Ursarings egg moves

>brown bear gets Close combat
>but Monk/bancho panda doesn't

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO bear egg moves.png, 107KiB, 2438x730

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 08:32:15 No.29848563 Report

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>>29848537
heres Comparison of all there egg moves

i get ursarings been out for 15 years and has more versatility because its a normal type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 08:33:24 No.29848573 Report

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>>29846757
Non-STAB priority sucks. It got a lot of what it needed with ORAS tutors, honestly I'd rather have Sucker Punch or Pursuit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 10:11:34 No.29849496 Report

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>>29848416
Why though

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 11:45:54 No.29850353 Report

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>>29846667
Might be, I could see this thing getting an Adrenaline Orb.

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