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>>29850508
>Gengar gets hurt by Spikes
>Gengar gets slowed by Sticky Web
>Gengar gets trapped by Arena Trap
>Gengar now weak to Ground-moves
All is right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:04:18 No.29850548 Report

Quoted By: >>29850567

>>29850524
>>>Gengar gets trapped by Arena Trap
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:06:00 No.29850567 Report

Quoted By: >>29850575 >>29850576 >>29850577 >>29852093

>>29850548
Gengar doesn't have Levitate anymore so it can now be trapped by Shadow Tag and Arena Trap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:06:44 No.29850575 Report

Quoted By: >>29850595

>>29850567
Ghosts are immune to trapping stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:06:51 No.29850576 Report

Quoted By: >>29850595

>>29850567
No shadow tag, ghost prevents that not levitate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:07:05 No.29850577 Report

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>>29850567
>Gengar doesn't have Levitate anymore so it can now be trapped by Shadow Tag and Arena Trap.
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:08:09 No.29850590 Report

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That extra +20 Attack in Gen 7 is getting Arena Trap banned to Ubers for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:08:36 No.29850595 Report

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>>29850575
>>29850576
Ah, haha forgot that made that change a time back.
My bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:08:59 No.29850604 Report

Quoted By: >>29850641

>>29850471
Post link.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:09:34 No.29850611 Report

Quoted By: >>29850633

>>29850523
Because people weren't using it enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:10:01 No.29850620 Report

Quoted By: >>29850692 >>29852129

>>29850471
Dugtrio is only going to get better in Sm due to it getting a 20+ Attack boost. Honestly surprised it took this long for it to reach OU in gen VI.
Quagsire is PU is hilarious.
Ambipom STILL in RU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:11:07 No.29850633 Report

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>>29850611
Ask stupid questions I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:11:32 No.29850640 Report

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>>29850508
>>29850524
Ghost trapped? Please, learn to play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:11:32 No.29850641 Report

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>>29850604
If you have anything worthwhile to contribute to this thread then you would know perfectly well where to find tier updates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:15:29 No.29850681 Report

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>>29850489
it is ou because its good, it always was, now its ridiculous great with 100 base att

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:17:19 No.29850692 Report

Quoted By: >>29850784 >>29850793

>>29850620
I don't play much OU but from my understanding Duggy only recently started to get any attention at all.
Quagsire won't be any good in an offensive tier like PU
Fuck Ambipom. If I were in charge of showdown, I'd drop it even if its usage was 20%

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:20:46 No.29850731 Report

Quoted By: >>29850776 >>29850784 >>29850793

>>29850471
Was Bl4 ever a thing before? Seems redundant, like Bl3 which is just Sceptile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:25:32 No.29850776 Report

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>>29850731
As long as they have one pokémon in them they aren't redundant. They aren't proper tiers, just banlists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:25:57 No.29850784 Report

Quoted By: >>29850880

>>29850692
>Quagsire won't be any good in an offensive tier like PU
Quagsire will probably be used more in OU than PU.

>>29850731
Yeah, every tier has its own banlist. Since they're so anal about how the system ranks Pokémon after usage, they can't bump a mon up a tier like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:26:40 No.29850793 Report

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>>29850731
Is just a ban list, broken for the tier bellow, but shit for the next one
>>29850692
Quag is good for PU, is pretty bulky for the tier standards and is a hard counter for Muk, who was about to be suspected, but with this new counter there is no need

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:32:43 No.29850880 Report

Quoted By: >>29850963 >>29850996 >>29851046 >>29851135

>>29850784
I'm just surprised they're treating PU as an actual tier when it was meant to be a joke. Classic Smogon autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:34:58 No.29850913 Report

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>>29850512
It's not an illogical reasoning though, dugtrio is godlike on stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:38:40 No.29850963 Report

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>>29850880
It makes perfect sense though. More new pokémon means more tiers if most pokémon are supposed to have a spot they can do alright in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:41:00 No.29850996 Report

Quoted By: >>29851157

>>29850880
It has its own metagame and everything. Stoutland and Monferno are the kings of the tier.

It makes sense that it exists now since there's just too many shitmons to contain in NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:45:13 No.29851046 Report

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>>29850880
If people wanna play it, no reason not to maintain it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:45:13 No.29851047 Report

Quoted By: >>29851058

How do you think Quagsire's going to do in the Gen 7 meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:46:15 No.29851058 Report

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>>29851047
Unaware wasn't changed at all so dunno.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:49:15 No.29851087 Report

Quoted By: >>29851157 >>29851165

Figured I would ask this here.
When a new generation is introduced are the tiers completely reconstructed, specifically in terms of banlists?
As in will shit like Greninja, Aegislash, Mawile and so on need to be suspect tested again, since I doubt they're getting Quick Banned?
Or do they just start off with the previous generation's tiers and modify it from there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:52:54 No.29851135 Report

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>>29850880

It's has long since developed into an actual metagame by now. I don't know where tf you've been

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:55:11 No.29851157 Report

Quoted By: >>29852394 >>29852753

>>29850996
Soon there will be too many shitmons to be contained in PU. Will they make a new tier for the shitmonds among the shitmons?

>>29851087
Some pokemon get retested, very few are quick banned at the start of the new gen.
I suspect that Aegislash is gonna drop in OU because a lot of the Alola mons are slower than it and can attack it while in Sword Form

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:55:54 No.29851165 Report

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>>29851087
I wasn't around on smogon when XY started, but from what I've read they quick banned some obviosly broken mons like Mega Kang and Mega Gengar and as the meta settled they started suspecting some stuff like Genesect, Deoxys-D etc. So basically the meta is going to be a huge mess for two months or so

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:56:18 No.29851170 Report

Quoted By: >>29851207

>FU is now a tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 12:59:36 No.29851207 Report

Quoted By: >>29851233

>>29851170

>There are already fully evolved Pokémon that see virtually no use in PU because NFE versions of higher tiered mon outclass them
>This number will only grow higher with the likes of Araquanid added

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 13:02:19 No.29851233 Report

Quoted By: >>29851265

>>29851207
>my bros are literally useless in PU
at least some of them were given a stat boost in SM, maybe they'll be slightly more useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 13:05:54 No.29851265 Report

Quoted By: >>29851281 >>29852701

>>29851233
Could Masquerain go to NU now that it has +20 Sp.Atk, +20 Speed and new moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 13:07:20 No.29851281 Report

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>>29851265

Depends if Quiverpassing is still banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 13:22:41 No.29851414 Report

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>>29850494
>Quagsire in PU
Climbing has never been easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 13:33:03 No.29851539 Report

Quoted By: >>29851625

Remember when Quagsire was hot shit in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 13:40:21 No.29851625 Report

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>>29851539

It's still got 2.424% usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 14:13:18 No.29852093 Report

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>>29850567
Reeeeeeeeeeeee

tard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 14:15:16 No.29852129 Report

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>>29850620
quagsire is the one pokemon to be mediocre/decent in every single tier but not actually great in any

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 14:17:46 No.29852165 Report

Quoted By: >>29852312

>>29850471
Source?
I want to know where are Beartic, Delcatty, Mantine, Bellossom, Dodrio, Aromatisse, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 14:26:32 No.29852312 Report

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>>29852165
If you can't figure out where tier lists are posted then you're honestly too dumb to actually use them for anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 14:30:31 No.29852387 Report

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Is there a list of all the new moves old pokemon got?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 14:30:46 No.29852394 Report

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>>29851157
I've heard talk of an FU tier below PU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 14:49:00 No.29852701 Report

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>>29851265
Yeah its a decent speed for that tier now
U turn+ Intimidate

Tiny bug landorus/megaman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 14:51:59 No.29852753 Report

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>>29851157
There's already a pseudo-tier beneath PU called FU. It's basically dominated by NFEs of good pokemon while the shittiest of the shit pokemon still suck ass in it.

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