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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:19:56 No.29860366 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29860453 >>29860491 >>29860525 >>29860717 >>29861188

So, it's pretty much Lillie's game, with the protag just autistically staring in the background as the story unfolds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:22:10 No.29860433 Report

Quoted By: >>29860454 >>29860507

The protag is you at a sleepover when your friend and their sibling constantly yell at each other and you just have to sit there with a dumbfuck look on your face because you dont want to get in the middle of their drama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:23:11 No.29860453 Report

Quoted By: >>29860610 >>29860652 >>29860807

>>29860366
The only thing that bothered me was that fucktard Hau being everywhere with absolutely no relation to the plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:23:17 No.29860454 Report

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>>29860433
Switch sibling for mom for max awkwardness.

>You visit your friend's house and he begins fighting with his mom while you're there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:24:45 No.29860491 Report

Quoted By: >>29860756

>>29860366

Basically yes.

Think of like Zelda Twilight Princess. Midna is the real main character, Link is just a vehicle to take Midna where she needs to go.

Same thing here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:25:23 No.29860507 Report

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>>29860433
Kek. Pretty much.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:26:19 No.29860525 Report

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>>29860366
Yes and it was a good choice too.

Protag is unimportant and Lillie is very very cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:26:42 No.29860534 Report

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>>29860454
I'd politely ask said friend to leave my house, so I can have quality time with his slut mother.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:28:51 No.29860588 Report

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>>29860525
It's okay Shillie. Just give me that bag and I will release this poor star creature. I'll gladly bring you back to your loving, caring mom after a quick ride on this beautiful ferris wheel. If this Pokemon is your friend it will probably come with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:29:06 No.29860595 Report

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>>29860525
If I was an autist who only focuses on how cute the girls are in Pokemon games, I would agree with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:29:30 No.29860610 Report

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>>29860453
Lillie's love interest

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:31:15 No.29860652 Report

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>>29860453
Gosh he's our friend who is irrelevant himself if we go by OP's description.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:32:18 No.29860671 Report

Quoted By: >>29860833

Fucking the chosen one is more interesting than being the chosen one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:34:20 No.29860717 Report

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>>29860366
Yeah I liked the BW angle more with you and N being similarly important.

Protags can be mute (see Chrono Trigger) but I hate when they're blank slates. Even Link has personality and is significant to the plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:36:13 No.29860756 Report

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>>29860491
I'm legitimately okay with being the link to Lillie's Midna.
Will add a much better turn on the story instead of trying to focus on the main character in autistic ways like they did in XY.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:37:13 No.29860781 Report

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>>29860588
Nice dubs.
Btw, N only shitposts here because his parents released him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:38:20 No.29860807 Report

Quoted By: >>29860860 >>29860917 >>29860978 >>29861069

>>29860453
Hau was based nigga. He knew he wasn't as strong as you. Everything he does is for the sake of the fun of it. He's miles less annoying than Wally or the rival from BW2 when you consider that he takes nothing seriously.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:39:08 No.29860833 Report

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>>29860671
You're both chosen ones, there are two magical flutes: Sun and Moon. Lillie gets the one of the version opposite to yours.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:39:49 No.29860852 Report

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>>29860833
Those flutes were shoehorned so hard by the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:40:11 No.29860860 Report

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>>29860807
>Dramatic moment with Lusamine, Lillie and Gladion
>Hau comes in running
>YOU WHATS UP DOGS, YOU MEAN YOU ALL A FAMILY OR SOMETHING

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:42:04 No.29860917 Report

Quoted By: >>29861263

>>29860807
I can't really compare since I skipped everything after RSE, but that guy was just a fucking nuisance. As soon as I turned a corner "DUDE MASALADAS LMAO" like shut the fuck up I wanna play the game. Every fucking cutscene as well.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:42:57 No.29860938 Report

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>>29860588
Stop it you're making her mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:44:30 No.29860978 Report

Quoted By: >>29861145

>>29860807
But muh asshole rival. I need characters in a children's game to say mean things to me so I can be happy when I beat them.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:46:01 No.29861017 Report

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I like that.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:47:18 No.29861046 Report

Quoted By: >>29861150

yes, exactly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:48:10 No.29861069 Report

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>>29860807
Wally barely even has any screentime, I don't know he even registers as a rival let alone annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:50:47 No.29861145 Report

Quoted By: >>29861178 >>29861223

>>29860978
Gladion was the perfect rival
takes things seriously, wants to win, also cares for pokemon and tells Skull off when they try to start a pointless fight with you

You don't have to choose between edgelord and retard just because that's all Gamefreak has been shitting out for 6 gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:51:05 No.29861150 Report

Quoted By: >>29861208 >>29861225

>>29861046
Idk why GF can't emote our MC properly when they started doing more expressions for the NPC's. Like come on, it's not that hard to put on some extra effort to make the very thing the player controls more lively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:51:23 No.29861154 Report

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>>29861069
Barry, I meant barry, my bad. Wally was chill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:52:07 No.29861178 Report

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>>29861145
THIS. Gladion is sensible for his chuuni and edgelord self.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:52:24 No.29861188 Report

Quoted By: >>29861210 >>29861328

>>29860366
I like this and I hope it becomes the norm for now on. Why make the campaign centered on a character that doesn't speak or react to the world around him? Every MC the series has ever had behaves like this.

It makes much more sense to make the MC the spectator of a story centered on a side character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:53:02 No.29861208 Report

Quoted By: >>29862091

>>29861150
MCs are just silent dolls.
Yeah cool we can answer a bit in sun and moon but seriously, why the fuck aren't they able to make ur MC seem like more than just some silent autistic fugdoll?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:53:12 No.29861210 Report

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>>29861188
Huh, you know what, I don't that either. Enough with mute heroes, give the title to others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:53:50 No.29861223 Report

Quoted By: >>29861262

>>29861145
This is one of the biggest fuckups for me. Gladion should have been fleshed out WAY more. His potential as a rival was definitely there. I liked the disparity between Hau and Gladion and I thought their interaction between each other was well done. If we got less Hau cutscenes and more Gladion/Gladion-Hau scenes, the writing would have ramped up a bit for me.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:54:00 No.29861225 Report

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>>29861150
it happens like once

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:55:37 No.29861262 Report

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>>29861223
nah man we'll just expo dump you right at the end
let's talk about malasadas some more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:55:44 No.29861263 Report

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>>29860917
>like shut the fuck up I wanna play the game.

In that case you need several more "DUDE ____ LMAO" inserts because everyone was fucking bugging the MC with their bullshit except Gladion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:58:20 No.29861316 Report

Quoted By: >>29861417 >>29861870

They should have explored Lillie and Gladion's relationship a bit more. If it wasn't for Gladion helping you save Lillie and going angsty when Lillie willingly goes with Lusamine to protect him you would think he doesn't care for her at all.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 21:58:42 No.29861328 Report

Quoted By: >>29861534

>>29861188
I would agree with you if I didn't essentially relegate every future Pokemon game to an Uncharted movie game. They seriously need to learn some balance with those cutscenes and "You HAVE to go here right now!" bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:02:01 No.29861417 Report

Quoted By: >>29861485

>>29861316
I definitely agree here. In all honestly, while I've seen many people praising the characterization this gen, it was a Naruto-esque rushjob. Gladion and Guzma were likeable, but weren't interacted with enough to allow for some attachment. I feel more attachment to the "Nyuck-nyuck" Rocket Grunt than to Guzma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:04:40 No.29861485 Report

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>>29861417
Well, the main issue were two things:
>Lillie's overwhelming amount of screentime and her relationship to PT and Nebby taking priority
>trying to flesh out everyone in the cast
I think the Captains and the Kahunas are way more fleshed out than most Gym Leaders/Elite Four members in the franchise and you can actually feel that they have a life outside of battling with the PT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:06:25 No.29861534 Report

Quoted By: >>29861580 >>29861593 >>29861596

>>29861328
I think just giving us a cutscene skip option would instantly fix these emerging problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:07:11 No.29861547 Report

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>>29861225
NOW THIS, EVEN FOR ONCE, IS AN INSTANCE OF A LIVING MC GDI GF.

Please do this forever!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:08:54 No.29861580 Report

Quoted By: >>29861596

>>29861534
I don't think so, I knew the pacing was gonna be shit as soon as I saw the first event flag
>event flag
>10 MINUTE CUTSCENE
>another flag
>10 MINUTE CUTSCENE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:09:22 No.29861593 Report

Quoted By: >>29861981

>>29861534
No, they definitely need to rethink their story distribution. There's nothing wrong with characterization and development, but the game wastes massive amounts of screentime for dead end hijinks or to give you directions(which always amount to "keep going straight")

I have no problem listening to the nicer characters like the Captains or the Lusamine family, but it needs to be broken up more so I can have some peace and quiet to catch pokemon and fight trainers. Short routes combined with cutscenes at the beginning of each one really fuck up the flow.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:09:41 No.29861596 Report

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>>29861534
>>29861580
didn't mean to reply to this but you're right, it needs a skip cutscene button

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:20:29 No.29861870 Report

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>>29861316
Well, that's probably because while he cares about her, he really cares about Silvally more.

I mean, really, his dog was with him for all that time, he escaped the Aether Foundation with his dog and left Lillie behind. It's not that he doesn't care about her, just that his sister and mom will always come second to his dog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:23:23 No.29861920 Report

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i like how the protag just stands there with a blank face the whole game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:26:38 No.29861981 Report

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>>29861593
All those cutscenes that are just to give you directions should just be replaced with normal dialogue.

I'd also like if I could talk to the person that triggers the next event instead of activating it by getting somewhat close to it. Give me some control for when I want to progress the story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:29:15 No.29862034 Report

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I'm not going to say it's a good thing, but another character being the focus of most JRPGs with an unvoiced blank-template character is kinda the standard. The protag in Digimon Cyber Sleuth is pretty essential to the story but it's still Arata, Nokia and Yuuki who get the most to do in cutscenes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:31:27 No.29862091 Report

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>>29861208
Because m-muh self-insert.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:39:38 No.29862263 Report

Quoted By: >>29862365 >>29863591

Speaking of spoilers, I literally can't believe most of Japan is still unaware of them. I see JP tweets daily saying "I wonder what the relationship between Lillie, Gladion and Lusamine is".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:44:55 No.29862365 Report

Quoted By: >>29862414

>>29862263
Maybe they are pretending.
By the way, does anyone know who Royal Mask really is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:46:26 No.29862414 Report

Quoted By: >>29862553

>>29862365
Prof. Oak, obviously.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 22:52:38 No.29862553 Report

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>>29862414
What the fuck? That was Oak?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:07:00 No.29862925 Report

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:09:29 No.29862980 Report

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>>29862925

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Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2016 23:31:32 No.29863591 Report

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>>29862263
nip's ussually don't into piratery

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 00:35:13 No.29865240 Report

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>>29862980
>Chicken-chan
>Water type

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