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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 02:42:41 No.29868176 View View Reply Original Report

Is the new battling norm for a pokemon team going to be: Z-move user, Mega evolution, Ultra Beast, insert 4-6th pokemon? Was it confirmed that you can only have one or the other in regards to M-evolution and Z-moves?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 02:47:41 No.29868277 Report

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bump you niggers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 02:56:32 No.29868467 Report

Quoted By: >>29868629 >>29871437

>>29868176
VGC has Megas banned. Z-Moves you can only use one of throughout a battle. Ultra Beasts atm don't appear to be restricted or banned in any way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 03:04:10 No.29868629 Report

Quoted By: >>29868715 >>29871103

>>29868467
>Ultra Beasts atm don't appear to be restricted or banned in any way
This, though they are a rumor going around that before VGC actually gets here there will be an announcement that legendaries in general, UBs included, will be banned. This would be odd seeing as they put so much attention in the Tapu's field abilities and doubles support.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 03:07:33 No.29868715 Report

Quoted By: >>29868955

>>29868629
Tapus are like Trio mons. They won't be banned.
UBs, maybe, but they're only 570bst which puts them at less than any Psuedo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 03:18:32 No.29868955 Report

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>>29868715
but their stats are good! and those abilitiez!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 05:08:12 No.29871103 Report

Quoted By: >>29871459

>>29868629
I'm hoping for UBs to be limited to one or maybe two per team so you don't just see teams that are half UB

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 05:28:45 No.29871437 Report

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>>29868467
>VGC

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 05:30:23 No.29871459 Report

Quoted By: >>29872754 >>29872880

>>29871103
They wouldn't be, the most you would see is a Pheromosa on every team

the other UBs seriously can't compete with it

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:10:11 No.29872754 Report

Quoted By: >>29872945

>>29871459
If Pheromosa is on every team does that mean Lycanrock is on every team

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:21:44 No.29872880 Report

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>>29871459
If pheromosa misses one prediction or if HJK misses it dies.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:26:19 No.29872945 Report

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>>29872754
No because Pheromosa isn't weak to Rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:31:17 No.29872993 Report

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why would they ban ultra beasts? it's like having a general ban on all legendaries. Most of the non-uber ones are pretty balanced. UBs have good stats and abilities, but only maybe a couple of them will be OP, and even then it remains to be seen if they'll be D/P Garchomp level OP or not.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:31:35 No.29872996 Report

Quoted By: >>29873093

Ironically, Bravest Bird shits on Pheromosa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:33:42 No.29873019 Report

Quoted By: >>29873122 >>29873128 >>29873186 >>29873360

Nobody is going to use Z-Moves competitively because a 1 time strong move or boosting move and losing the ability to use an item is not better than having an item and possibly a viable 4th move depending on what Z-Move you were considering

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:41:09 No.29873093 Report

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>>29872996
nerfed to death lol

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:44:50 No.29873122 Report

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>>29873019
lol
you will be proven so wrong it won't even be funny

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:45:40 No.29873128 Report

Quoted By: >>29873163

>>29873019
Z splash mimikyu will be a thing.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:47:46 No.29873163 Report

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>>29873128
seems incredibly gimmicky and something that would only be used as a joke in UU or something, I get that it's ability is basically substitute, but it's not hard to stop ghost types, be it a baton passer or whatever mimikyu will use the +3 atk for

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:49:19 No.29873186 Report

Quoted By: >>29873207 >>29873330 >>29873453

>>29873019
Z Celebrate, Hold Hands and Happy Hour give a +1 to all stats.

Mega Fug can use it, Ho-Oh can use it, the Eeeves can use it, Kitachi, Greninja.

Also Z-Belly Drum Azumarril

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:51:01 No.29873207 Report

Quoted By: >>29873218 >>29873226

>>29873186
Yes, but those are all useless outside of the 1 time usage

Say you get predicted and someone simply switches to a counter? What are you going to do? Switch, and waste your ancient power type boost and have an empty move slot and a useless item

Also, what does Z-Belly drum do? Not lose HP or something?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:52:13 No.29873218 Report

Quoted By: >>29873242

>>29873207
It restores HP to max beforehand.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:53:14 No.29873226 Report

Quoted By: >>29873242

>>29873207
Z Belly Drum restores 50%(?) HP then does the original attack

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 07:54:41 No.29873242 Report

Quoted By: >>29873791

>>29873218
>>29873226

That's quite good, better than the typical sitrus berry + bdrum, but unless more Z-Moves are so close to being on the verge of legitimately broken, I doubt they'll become too popular, other than that, most of what I've seen is just gimmicky boosts that probably won't hold up in a legitimate battle where checks are a thing

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 08:06:25 No.29873330 Report

Quoted By: >>29873348 >>29873930

>>29873186
Fug cannot mega with a Z-Crystal

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 08:08:37 No.29873348 Report

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>>29873330
Oh that's gay.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 08:09:47 No.29873360 Report

Quoted By: >>29873369

>>29873019
Z-Crystal Draco Meteor spam is gonna be a thing, specially in VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 08:10:34 No.29873369 Report

Quoted By: >>29873421

>>29873360
Spam? How so? You can only use Z-Moves once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 08:15:58 No.29873421 Report

Quoted By: >>29873440 >>29873844

>>29873369
Something similar existed in VGC12 and 13 with Draco Meteor + Draco Gem. Latios was in every damn team and people were pretty much forced to EV'd to take the hit.

Now it's even better because now you'll be launching a DM for free.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 08:18:15 No.29873440 Report

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>>29873421
Ahh

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 08:19:42 No.29873453 Report

Quoted By: >>29873930

>>29873186
Mega Fug can't use Z moves though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 08:45:11 No.29873685 Report

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>>29868176

Z-Move user, Mega, UB, Primal plus two more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 08:57:48 No.29873791 Report

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>>29873242
You definitely want a Z-Move in a Glass Cannon type of Pokemon.
You raise an interesting point, but no. Z- Moves will likely one-shot a threat. It's like having a free "remove one pokemon". It's definitely worth the item slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:02:57 No.29873844 Report

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>>29873421
Except Fairy exists now.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:10:25 No.29873930 Report

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>>29873453
>>29873330
Does fug need a mega stone in ORAS? Nope
Will fug need a mega stone in SUMO? Probably not

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