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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:16:29 No.29873988 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29873996 >>29874073 >>29874111 >>29874470 >>29875183 >>29878836

Every type will be tiered separately.
Where do you think each of them (and Type: Null) will end up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:18:00 No.29873996 Report

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>>29873988
not even OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:18:33 No.29874001 Report

Quoted By: >>29874020 >>29874027

Why would each type be tiered separately?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:20:44 No.29874020 Report

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>>29874001
Because Arceus is, technically.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/combining-of-formes-a-comprehensive-stats-counting-policy.3580299/#post-6960342

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:21:47 No.29874027 Report

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>>29874001

Arceus's forms are all Uber because Arceus's stats are too absurd for OU, regardless of type.

However, other Pokemon like Rotom have different forms in different tiers.

Since Silvally has 95 in each stat, each of its forms will be tiered separately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:27:35 No.29874073 Report

Quoted By: >>29874106 >>29874133

>>29873988
Probably RU/UU each

>Meh stats
>Not that great of a speed tier
>Won't be able to hold an item because of the plate

The good thing is it's "unique" move. Can see the Fairy/Water/Steel equivalent being higher than the others

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:29:02 No.29874086 Report

Quoted By: >>29874132

What level is the type:null Gladion gives you post game?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:31:27 No.29874106 Report

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>>29874073

It learns Parting Shot you nigger.

It's the only mon other than Pangoro and Alolan Persian that can learn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:31:58 No.29874111 Report

Quoted By: >>29874144

>>29873988
You can't tier its different formes separately because it would horribly hurt its overall viability.

Silvally's strongest point is that your opponent can never guess what type it is untl it's sent out, so it NEEDS to keep that to make it viable at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:33:36 No.29874126 Report

Quoted By: >>29874162 >>29874193

Wont speculate on Eviolite Type Null since it seems they nerfed eviolite to *1.2 Boost.

Most promising Silvally's: Fairy(well duh), Stell (same), Dark... And Electric

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:34:10 No.29874132 Report

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>>29874086
40

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:34:11 No.29874133 Report

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>>29874073
it has a shit movepool too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:35:09 No.29874144 Report

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>>29874111
>Silvally's strongest point is that your opponent can never guess what type it is untl it's sent out

Won't they be able to tell by the Team Preview sprite anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:36:05 No.29874149 Report

Quoted By: >>29874457

>Normal, Fairy, Water, Electric
UU
>Fighting, Flying, Dragon, Dark, Ghost
RU

The rest will end up in BL3, maybe one or two will be in NU, like Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:37:51 No.29874162 Report

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>>29874126
Eviolite has not been nerfed. It was tested. Neither was Unaware or any of the other unconfirmed stuff like Knock Off or Scald.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:41:26 No.29874193 Report

Quoted By: >>29874213

>>29874126
>Eviolite Type:Null

It's an inferior Porygon2, stop this meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:44:14 No.29874213 Report

Quoted By: >>29874240 >>29874314 >>29874322 >>29874457

Normal Silvally is versatile enough that it probably makes OU. It won't be great, but it'll be usable. Hell, parting shot alone might carry it.
None of the other forms will see enough use to get to OU.

On the other hand, Rock and Ice sound like utter garbage and might end up in NU.

>>29874193
No, stop that meme.
Just because it's normal and has similar stats doesn't mean anything when it has a completely different movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:49:00 No.29874240 Report

Quoted By: >>29874402

>>29874213
>None of the other forms will see enough use to get to OU.

>A Fairy type with 95 in every stat, a reliable physical Fairy-type move, and Parting Shot won't make OU

top kek

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 09:59:59 No.29874314 Report

Quoted By: >>29874402

>>29874213
>No, stop that meme.
Not him but he's right. Type:Null doesn't have access to any recovery, it's outright inferior as a tank to Porygon2 even before looking at the rest of its movepool. Its bulk is ever so slightly better (15 points total) but that isn't going to mean anything if it can't actually take repeated abuse and recover HP.

It does however have access to a pretty good physical movepool and Swords Dance, and a few utility moves like Thunder Wave and Roar so it could perhaps be good in lower tiers. But odds are it's not running eviolite.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 10:01:01 No.29874322 Report

Quoted By: >>29874402

>>29874213
A fairy type with decent stats and reliable STAB isn't going to be OU? I don't buy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 10:12:15 No.29874402 Report

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>>29874240
>>29874322
Eh, remember it won't get to hold an item.
It's definitely the most likely to make OU though.
>>29874314
That's exactly my point though: Porygon2 is a tank, Null can't function as such, but it can do things that Porygon2 can't, so comparing them is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 10:20:11 No.29874457 Report

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>>29874149
>>29874213

Ice isn't bad because it does have excellent coverage. Worst formes are undoubtely Bug and Psychic.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 10:21:10 No.29874470 Report

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>>29873988
Normal, Fairy and Ghost in OU.
>A fairy with good bulk, good movepool and a good spammable physical attack that doesn't miss.
>A ghost with good bulk, good movepool and a physical STAB over 70 BP
>Explosion/Parting Shot/Flamethrower/U-turn with a scarf being anything other than OU

Rest UU, rock weak ones RU, ones not rock weak but not UU banned from RU. Its momentum: the pokemon.

Once tutors roll around expect it to get pebbles.

Type; Null in RU. Has half the movepool of silvally but can use eviolite for better-than-porygon2 bulk.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 11:45:58 No.29875183 Report

Quoted By: >>29875301 >>29875350

>>29873988
Do the disks have any effect besides changing its type?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 12:03:16 No.29875301 Report

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>>29875183
wew lad thanks for the answers

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 12:10:47 No.29875350 Report

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>>29875183
No.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 12:11:39 No.29875358 Report

Quoted By: >>29875374

Quick Question not trying to override the discussion but Silvally breedable? I hear you only get 1.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 12:13:40 No.29875374 Report

Quoted By: >>29876841 >>29879966

>>29875358
No.
It gets the normal 3IV thing and isn't shiny locked, though.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 14:06:55 No.29876841 Report

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>>29875374
what's its level?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 16:01:13 No.29878836 Report

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>>29873988

Fairy Sivally will be OU, and the rest will be UU or RU.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 16:03:33 No.29878874 Report

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 16:05:45 No.29878922 Report

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Fairy OU
Normal, Water, Rock UU
Ice RU
Bug, Grass, Psychic RU/BL3
everything else BL2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 16:14:19 No.29879103 Report

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Sucks that it's not breedable, Gonna have to use the GTS to try for both
I fucking hate the GTS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 16:40:59 No.29879554 Report

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I don't get why people are saying it's stats are bad
95 speed is actually really great for its spread: outspeeds slower set up sweepers like Dragonite with very little investment, can sweep itself, and due to its great bulk, other Pokémon find difficulty to even coming near an OHKO even when faster with a life orb and possibly a band

Poison, Steel, Ground and Fairy, will all be just fine without an item.
Many other types would like one, but could function fine as a sweeper or tank

Because it gets Imprison, it could stop its checks and pack coverage against its own type, which has never been seen before.
>Steel Silvally can carry flamethrower to beat other steels
>Fire type comes in
>Silvally can Imprison the enemy's flamethrower

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Anonymous Sun 13 Nov 2016 16:59:23 No.29879966 Report

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>>29875374
is it feasible to transfer it to a new game and use it from the start? Or is its level too high?

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