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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:16:48 No.29946438 View View Reply Original Report

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Were mega evolutions a failed idea that will never be touched again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:24:43 No.29946535 Report

Quoted By: >>29946626 >>29947706 >>29947840 >>29947894

>>29946438
Megas like Mawile, Beedrill, Pidgeot, Glalie, Kangaskhan, Pinsir, and Lopunny were good, cause it made unusable shitmons actually viable.

Pokemon who were already great but were given megas, like Salamence, Lucario, Garchomp, Blaziken, and Tyrannitar were pretty unnecessary.

And then things like Mega Audino and Camerupt were just wasted potential

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:28:20 No.29946589 Report

Quoted By: >>29949723

It was an interesting concept and I would have liked to see them continue in this gen. Now it's just Z-Attacks which suck in comparison to megas.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:31:03 No.29946626 Report

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>>29946438

I admit I was pretty hype when they got released and some of them are pretty cool.

>>29946535

but like this anon says, they are only cool when they bring shitmons out of obscurity and make them viable, buffing things like lucario or blaziken is retarded.

also giving megas to LEGENDARIES is the most retarded concept GF has ever come to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:32:43 No.29946648 Report

Quoted By: >>29946663

I didn't like Megas because they took away from the teambuilding aspect. Kinda made it so one pokemon would have a lot of the spotlight no matter what and every team was forced to have one since it's essentially a legal legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:34:06 No.29946663 Report

Quoted By: >>29946718

>>29946648
Most legendaries are legal across most formats though. VGC, Smogon, battlespot, none of those ever stopped genies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:34:43 No.29946676 Report

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Don't think they will get rid of them completely, they balanced them this gen so I guess they're thinkering with them.

Hopefully we get more of them because I actually like megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:35:42 No.29946690 Report

Quoted By: >>29947508

I don't think it's a failed idea, but I think Gamefreak might of realised that Mega Evolution would of taken over the franchise. More and more Mega's would of been added every Gen, and would dominate the game, anime, manga etc
It'd change how the generations growing up with Pokemon at the moment view the entire concept, only Pokemon with a Mega Evolution would feel "complete". It'd be like Super Saiyin forms in DBZ. I dunno, hard to put into words.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:36:02 No.29946692 Report

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>>29946626
>giving megas to LEGENDARIES is the most retarded concept GF has ever come to.

Good thing it's only limited to one, and it's a mythical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:37:28 No.29946717 Report

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>>29946438
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:37:32 No.29946718 Report

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>>29946663
Talking more the Mewtwo, Palkia tier of legendaries not the bird/regi tier. Obviously they aren't quite on the same level as them since they lose an item slot and still have lower BST but you get the idea, one guy on each team has an arbitrarily high stat total.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:38:17 No.29946730 Report

Quoted By: >>29946787

>>29946692
you forgot mewtwo, fug, lati@s

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:40:34 No.29946747 Report

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>>29946718
It's not like Kyurem is even as good as, say, Aegislash or the genies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:41:58 No.29946768 Report

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I love how all the pokedex entries for them are about how they can't function outside of battle and are even a hazard to their own trainers. They should make some new megas next time around, I've warmed up to it. Just lean off the legendaries and pokemon that already have the meta to themselves next time, you know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:42:13 No.29946769 Report

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>>29946438
Nah, fans love Megas, we'll definitely see more. Definitely more significant than anything gen 4 or 5 added.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:42:38 No.29946780 Report

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If anything, Rotomdex saved Mega Evolution by giving them interesting flavor text

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 06:43:09 No.29946787 Report

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>>29946730
And the primals

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 07:24:57 No.29947306 Report

Quoted By: >>29947696 >>29947825

>>29946438

It was a great idea with a bad execution.

They had the chance to make trash pokemon usable and balance the competitive game but instead created an even bigger power creep gap by giving megas to already powerful mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 07:40:37 No.29947508 Report

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>>29946690
I wanted to see every pokemon have a mega form that way It would be completely unpredictable If a pokemon was going to go mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 07:54:45 No.29947696 Report

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>>29947306
>muh popular mons

This is why gamefreak are absolute cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 07:55:30 No.29947706 Report

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>>29946535
Garchomp at least was an interesting, if highly flawed, experiment.

I still chuckle at Mega Lucario getting a special snowflake +22 speed just so it wouldn't have have to sit on the soon to be crowded 110 speed tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 07:56:05 No.29947713 Report

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>>29946438
Megas were a successful idea that will never be touched again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 07:56:46 No.29947722 Report

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>>29946438
They want the Digimon crowd

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:00:32 No.29947759 Report

Quoted By: >>29947922

Next gen Gamefreak is introducing "Hyper Forms". Any fully-evolved Pokemon with a BST less than 600 has a Hyper Form they can access once they reach level 100, which boosts them up to have a 600 BST, You're only allowed one per team, and it isn't a mid-battle change like megas, it's something you set before battle. There is no visual change aside from them having a glowing aura, similar to totems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:01:49 No.29947781 Report

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I like Megas but I'll never not be mad they stopped making them before gen 5 got any good ones.
Gen 5 got 1 fucking Mega and it was Audino and to make it worse they didnt even make Audino good.
Hopefully the next game will have some more Megas and Gen 5-7 can get their turn instead of more gen 1 and 3 pandering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:04:07 No.29947798 Report

Quoted By: >>29947878 >>29949759

Megas were absolutely brilliant. XY was the true anniversary pair of games because it harkened back to RBY's simpler plot with a more general evil team, gave you a hell of a lot of classic Pokemon instead of cramming the new ones down your throat and then Megas added an interesting twist on team building.

I know some have complained about how Megas are a legal legendary that will always steal the spotlight, and that's a fair point - but I think Gamefreak were looking at it from the other direction, i.e. they looked at VGC and thought "Well everyone already uses either Lucario, Garchomp, Scizor etc. etc, why not make it so they can be even better but you can only use one?" A LOT of people have trouble constructing advanced level competitive teams and Megas help out with that a little bit. Z-Moves are a cool idea in the same vein; I think restricting a powerful mechanic to one per team keeps things fresh.

But inevitably, they're eventually going to have to sort out the heaps of shitmons that continue to be ignored generation after generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:05:45 No.29947825 Report

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>>29947306
Not realizing most of the power creep was triggered by shitmons that got megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:06:37 No.29947840 Report

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>>29946535
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:09:16 No.29947870 Report

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>>29947696
Why do so many people fail to understand that a company giving attention to popular characters is neither surprising nor a bad thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:10:11 No.29947878 Report

Quoted By: >>29947912

>>29947798
Lol XY plot wasn't simple, it was dogshit and gen 1 plot didn't revolve around some nut job who wanted to destroy humanity for "muh beautiful world". XY are shit, by far the worst first pairs of games, who's only contribution to the series is 3d and maybe character customization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:11:23 No.29947894 Report

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>>29946535
This, really.
Hope we see more next generation with the idea of making shitmons viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:12:28 No.29947912 Report

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>>29947878
Thanks for the opinion piece Anon but we're talking about Mega Evolutions in this thread.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:13:23 No.29947922 Report

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>>29947759
Hyper Shedinja - All into Attack/Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:14:41 No.29947935 Report

Quoted By: >>29948095

Turned them into overdesigned messes and instead of buffing them to be viable, making them overpowered.

Total failure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 08:28:11 No.29948095 Report

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>>29947935
>Total failure
That's what your mom said about you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 10:42:52 No.29949694 Report

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>>29946438
The only problem with Mega Evolution is that it only works on few specific pokemon. GF should have made a lot of megas, over hundreds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 10:45:30 No.29949723 Report

Quoted By: >>29950331

>>29946589
Z moves are better
>More versatile
>Make shitmons better
>All pokemon get them
>they feel more natural
>Lore about them fits nicely in Pokemon world unlike Megas (WTF Mewtwo stones)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 10:47:59 No.29949759 Report

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>>29947798
X/Y story wasn't simple, It was just told very fast and bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 10:54:04 No.29949842 Report

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>>29946438
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:32:37 No.29950331 Report

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>>29949723
Riddle me this: if i have a flying type z-crystal wich pokemon is more likely to use it better, Masquerain or Salamence? Asuming i even bother at all.

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