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>>29950343
Easily the best gen 7 pokemon.
It has no real weaknesses and a fuckton of unique strong points.
It will be the face of OU like Aegislash was for gen 6, until its inevitable ban.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:37:51 No.29950380 Report

Quoted By: >>29950388

>>29950343
>a doubles team of this and Magearna

It's like these two were made to play off of each other, goddamn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:38:57 No.29950387 Report

Quoted By: >>29950395

>>29950360
Don't use that word today, I'm still in mourning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:39:01 No.29950388 Report

Quoted By: >>29950420

>>29950380
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:40:02 No.29950394 Report

Quoted By: >>29950733 >>29950772

>>29950343
>perfect stat distribution, with high attack and speed, usable special attack thanks to Technician Hidden Power and solid bulk
>Technician
>excellent dual STAB with perfect coverage
>disgustingly good signature move
>crazy good offensive movepool
>Smogonbird is kill
>cute as a button

I'd argue it's better than the UBs and even the cover legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:40:06 No.29950395 Report

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>>29950387
>Retards going online before the release date

wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:42:54 No.29950420 Report

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>>29950388
Marshadow can attack the opponent, Magearna can Dazzling Gleam the leftovers which activates its soul heart ability. Because of both their bulks, it's hard to actually take them down due to such great typings and movesets, especially with Marshadow maining Spectral Thief AND Drain Punch. So you have Marshadow with the threat to hock the enemy boosts at any time unless its a Normal type, and Magearna who gets a Sp. ATK boost no matter who dies. They're the nearly-perfect doubles team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:53:19 No.29950531 Report

Quoted By: >>29950875 >>29953209

>>29950343
The only things which can hit this thing supereffectively are Ghost, Psychics, Fairies and Flyings.

Now, Ghost and Psychics are hella afraid of its Ghost STAB, so they dont dare to switch in.

That leave Fairies and Flying which can tank a ghost hit like checks (other than revenge killers), so
- the ever present skarmory
- Intimidate Lando-T
- Megasaur
- Regenerator Tornadus-T

This set will be legit OU tier (Choice Band is legit too):

Marshadow @ Leftovers/Lum Berry
- Bulk Up
- Substitute
- Close Combat
- Spectral Thief

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:55:15 No.29950554 Report

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>>29950361
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 11:57:50 No.29950577 Report

Quoted By: >>29950772

>>29950343
She's high tier OU at worst, yeah. Likely banned, but there's the possibility Marshadow is not that unhealthy for the Smogon meta, so who knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:00:51 No.29950613 Report

Quoted By: >>29950772

>>29950343
Marshadow is a fucking menace. Think of how many stat boosters there is and think about Marshadow stealing those boosts to himself. It's also really fast at 125 speed

It will probably be banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:05:57 No.29950692 Report

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>>29950554
Not an argument.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:10:01 No.29950733 Report

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>>29950361
>>29950394

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:11:03 No.29950751 Report

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>>29950554
(You)(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:13:26 No.29950772 Report

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>>29950360
>>29950365
>>29950394
>>29950577
>>29950613

>smogon sheep

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:16:10 No.29950809 Report

Quoted By: >>29954923

>>29950772
Literally the only possible competitive meta for Marshadow because VGC don't allow mythical pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:19:07 No.29950851 Report

Quoted By: >>29951232 >>29952860

One shadow sneak and its dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:20:30 No.29950871 Report

Quoted By: >>29950919 >>29951116

>>29950361
are you kidding

this thing has one of the best offensive type in the game, top tier speed, great attack, one of the best signature moves in the series which bypasses subs, technician stab priority, close combat, a signature z-move, and decent bulk for a sweeper

it's a check to extreme speed killer arceus, being faster and having a chance to OHKO with a choice band close combat.

it'll be banned super fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:20:44 No.29950875 Report

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>>29950531
Your set is fucking garbage. The most common set will be Life Orb

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:23:38 No.29950919 Report

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>>29950871
forgot to mention, technician Hidden Power means it has access to a 90 BP special attack of any type in the game save fairy. Good check against defensive mons

-1 252 Atk Life Orb Marshadow Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Landorus-T: 218-260 (57 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 SpA Life Orb Technician Marshadow Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-T: 369-437 (96.5 - 114.3%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:25:08 No.29950935 Report

Quoted By: >>29951313

>>29950772
are you retarded? it is banned in VGC/official rules and not smogon.

Smogon will it probably bann too because it is too good in any way.

Also not liking smogon= underaged casual

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:26:42 No.29950948 Report

Quoted By: >>29950962

>>29950343
> Using legendaries

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:27:59 No.29950962 Report

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>>29950948

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:40:09 No.29951116 Report

Quoted By: >>29952221

>>29950871
Still frail af though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:40:26 No.29951119 Report

Quoted By: >>29955306

Is it catchable in-game or event?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:51:06 No.29951232 Report

Quoted By: >>29952860

>>29950851
joke's on you because it can also learn shadow sneak and also has the highest speed stat out of all pokemon that can learn shadow sneak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:57:58 No.29951313 Report

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>>29950935
>Also not liking smogon= underaged casual
Hahahaha not him but it's funny how defensive you got about your precious smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:01:54 No.29951363 Report

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>>29950365
>no real weaknesses
>fairy, flying, psychic and ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:10:12 No.29951465 Report

Quoted By: >>29951611

can marshadow be used in the battle tree? It's so fucking cute I want to use it but at the same time there's nowhere for me to use it.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:18:50 No.29951580 Report

Quoted By: >>29952827

Best mythical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:21:06 No.29951611 Report

Quoted By: >>29951628

>>29951465
nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:22:31 No.29951628 Report

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>>29951611
Fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:30:55 No.29951759 Report

Quoted By: >>29951786

>>29950343
>signature move has 100 accuracy and not perfect accuracy
My Minimize Clefable don't give a fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:33:26 No.29951786 Report

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>>29951759
>using evasion like some 12 year old scrub

LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:46:21 No.29951969 Report

Quoted By: >>29952252

It's giving me a Bravely Default vibe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:58:21 No.29952178 Report

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>>29950361
You are not even trying to b8, but take your fucking (You).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:00:08 No.29952206 Report

Quoted By: >>29952330

>>29950343
Marshadow
Fighting/Ghost
Abilities: Technician
HP: 90
Atk: 125
Def: 80
SpAtk: 90
SpDef: 90
Spe: 125

Most important moves

Fire Punch
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Drain Punch
Counter
Pursuit
Shadow Sneak
Force Palm
Feint
Copycat
Shadow Punch
Jump Kick
Spectral Thief
Close Combat
Sucker Punch

important TMs
Work Up
Calm Mind
Bulk Up
Shadow Ball
Brick Break
Low Sweep
Focus Blast
Will-O-Wisp
Acrobatics
Stone Edge
Rock Slide
Poison Jab
Grass Knot

>not Uber

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:00:52 No.29952221 Report

Quoted By: >>29953005

>>29951116
>90/80/90 Defenses is frail

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:01:23 No.29952230 Report

Quoted By: >>29952457

>>29950365
It's not gonna go to uber. It's stats are really good but nothing broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:03:12 No.29952252 Report

Quoted By: >>29952284

>>29951969
Now look at its Z move while listening to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl363Wh4ghU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:05:09 No.29952284 Report

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>>29952252
>Implying I haven't already

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:08:22 No.29952330 Report

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>>29952206
And the icing on the cake

Spectral Thief: The user hides in the target's shadow, steals the target's stat boosts, and THEN(!) attacks. 100% accuracy [Ghost] 90 BP, Physical.

>Hi, nice Swords Dance you have there!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:11:56 No.29952400 Report

Quoted By: >>29952439

People keep saying it'll be UU. Personally I don't even see it staying in OU. STAB shadow sneak spectral thief, drain punch willowisp/substitute. plus its ability is technician so theirs a lot to work with especially with those speed and attacks stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:14:46 No.29952439 Report

Quoted By: >>29952462

>>29952400
literally no one but trolls are saying it'll be UU

the common consensus on Smogon is that it's the best gen 7 Pokemon competitively

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:16:13 No.29952457 Report

Quoted By: >>29952531

>>29952230
Name one thing that can switch into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:16:25 No.29952462 Report

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>>29952439
its been my all time favorite pokemon this gen since i first discovered it. I can't wait for the event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:19:02 No.29952504 Report

Quoted By: >>29952552 >>29952642 >>29952693

>>29950343
>cute
>not waifu trash
>unique typing
>almost heavenly aligned stats/movepool
>most OP signature move in a while

I... I think I can finally call a mythical my favorite. Now if only I knew what the fuck was the inspiration for it or what its even supposed to be based off of

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:21:07 No.29952531 Report

Quoted By: >>29952556

>>29952457
like any fighting type or normal type move(granted if the opponent doesn't have scrappy) and then retaliate with a strong close combat or use spectral thief and steal buffs and then attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:21:50 No.29952543 Report

Quoted By: >>29952594 >>29952621

>No Mach Punch
>Offenses look good on paper, but in actuality it's not enough to 2HKO most threats without SE damage
>Can only increase its own ATK by +1, so it'll struggle against walls
See you in BL2!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:22:10 No.29952552 Report

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>>29952504
its robin boo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:22:26 No.29952556 Report

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>>29952531
Re-read the post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:24:49 No.29952594 Report

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>>29952543
>Technician boosted shadow sneak
>Fighting and ghost STAB with the speed and power to back it up. it also gets coverage moves.
>It can STEAL buffs

Exactly what walls are you thinking that will stop it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:27:05 No.29952621 Report

Quoted By: >>29952649 >>29952733

>>29952543
It gets coverage out the ass and a fantastic speed tier as well as a cool ability.

Furthermore, unlike other ghosts, it speed ties with weavile and takes neutral damage so it can't be reliably trapped.

What wall is this not breaking? Hippowdon? That's a momentum killer. Landorus? Tech HP ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:28:12 No.29952642 Report

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>>29952504
no ideas for direct inspiration, but its dex entries state that it dislikes being seen by people, and seems to live a solitary life away from human beings. Perhaps it is a sort of ascetic monk/wanderer, who only wishes to train and further itself.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:28:31 No.29952649 Report

Quoted By: >>29952681

>>29952621
it gets ice punch so there's no need for HP ice. isn't that great?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:30:07 No.29952681 Report

Quoted By: >>29952765 >>29952766

>>29952649
Tech HP Ice hits almost as hard as Ice Beam and isn't affected by intimidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:30:43 No.29952693 Report

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>>29952504
mars- roman god of war
marshall- someone in charge of military forces
shadow- ghost type, ethereal appearance, spectral thief and soul stealing strike are powered up from shadows
marshmallow- many believe it resembles a burnt marshmallow

it seems to have vague connections to yokai due to its emphasis on spirit and ghost moves, but it's ultimately very creative. I don't think it's based off any one thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:32:36 No.29952733 Report

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>>29952621
It can also run Will-o-Wisp if you really want to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:34:39 No.29952765 Report

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>>29952681
oh shit i forgot HP ice is tech boosted. This thing is going to be a monster!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:34:40 No.29952766 Report

Quoted By:

>>29952681
Not it hits AS hard as ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:35:26 No.29952784 Report

Quoted By: >>29952800

oh so is Marshadow not catchable nor relevent in S&M and its story?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:36:01 No.29952800 Report

Quoted By: >>29952846

>>29952784
just like hoopa

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:38:01 No.29952827 Report

Quoted By: >>29953044

>>29951580
More schoolgirl Marshadow please

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:39:05 No.29952846 Report

Quoted By: >>29952934

>>29952800
probably get a Marshadow movie then huh?

Am i the only one bothered by these pokemon not having an in game plot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:40:06 No.29952860 Report

Quoted By: >>29953031

>>29950851
See >>29951232
With gale wings gone and pixilated quick attack being weak, the only SE priority it has to fear is shadow sneak but it already outspeeds other users.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:41:51 No.29952882 Report

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Where re u getting the marshadow info?
Is there a video?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:42:54 No.29952902 Report

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>>29950343
Literally the best Gen 7 Pokemon. It's perfect in all aspects. Design, stats, movepool, typing.

I find it hard to believe that the same people who created this little fucker also made all other alola shitmons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:44:57 No.29952934 Report

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>>29952846
no I am too. I would've loved to see it in game and having a side arc so that I can have a stronger bond with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:49:21 No.29953005 Report

Quoted By: >>29953015 >>29955457

>>29952221
Too frail for ubers

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:50:06 No.29953012 Report

Quoted By: >>29953064 >>29953158

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:50:18 No.29953015 Report

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>>29953005
>Hurr it won't be good in ubers
Who gives a shit
Uber is a banlist, shit gets sent there because it's too good for OU, not because it would be good in ubers

kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:51:19 No.29953031 Report

Quoted By:

>>29952860
Well, Mega Pinsir is a thing, although you can definitely outplay that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:51:34 No.29953039 Report

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>>29950751
Nice youbs

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:51:49 No.29953044 Report

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>>29952827
Not sure how much schoolgirl Marshadow there is out there though there definitely need to be more but there's this.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:53:21 No.29953064 Report

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>>29953012
I want it to fuck me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:53:47 No.29953069 Report

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>>29950361
>UU
>(You) (You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:56:33 No.29953119 Report

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212 Atk Life Orb Marshadow Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Tyranitar: 676-801 (198.2 - 234.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

40 SpA Life Orb Technician Marshadow Hidden Power Ice vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 369-437 (88.4 - 104.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

212 Atk Life Orb Marshadow Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Arceus: 413-486 (108.1 - 127.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

40 SpA Life Orb Technician Marshadow Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Landorus-T: 385-458 (100.7 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

212 Atk Life Orb Technician Marshadow Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Mewtwo Y: 322-382 (91.2 - 108.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

212 Atk Life Orb Marshadow Spectral Thief vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 361-429 (89.3 - 106.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

40 SpA Life Orb Technician Marshadow Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 200 SpD Mega Scizor: 265-317 (77.2 - 92.4%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

44 Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Marshadow : 127-151 (39.5 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

212 Atk Life Orb Lucario Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Lucario: 533-632 (189.6 - 224.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

212 Atk Life Orb Marshadow Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Diancie: 222-263 (92.1 - 109.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

212 Atk Life Orb Marshadow Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 460-541 (119.1 - 140.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

212 Atk Life Orb Technician Marshadow Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Latios: 289-343 (96.6 - 114.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

40 SpA Life Orb Technician Marshadow Hidden Power Ice vs. 244 HP / 200+ SpD Gliscor: 291-348 (82.6 - 98.8%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

40 SpA Life Orb Technician Marshadow Hidden Power Ice vs. 80 HP / 0 SpD Mega Salamence: 354-421 (100.8 - 119.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:59:11 No.29953158 Report

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>>29953012
YOU WA SHOCK!
into a
RIDAH KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 15:01:21 No.29953199 Report

Quoted By:

>>29950751
W

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 15:01:49 No.29953209 Report

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>>29950531
>have technician
>None of the attacking moves benefit from it
Do you even know how to play?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 15:04:13 No.29953263 Report

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>what is flying type
it might get a hit in but one SE flying attack and it's down

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 16:21:10 No.29954808 Report

Quoted By: >>29954847

>>29950343
YEs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 16:22:54 No.29954847 Report

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>>29954808

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 16:26:22 No.29954923 Report

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>>29950809
That is the saddest thing in the world, 'cuz I play VGC and I love this little guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 16:41:23 No.29955306 Report

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>>29951119
Event. Last Pokemon in the Dex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 16:47:12 No.29955457 Report

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>>29953005
That doesn't matter, you become an Uber the moment you break OU balance.

Being bad in Ubers doesn't mean shit.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 16:48:29 No.29955492 Report

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>>29950343
>Marshadow is literally the only good gen 7 mon
>Marshadow's gimmick is stealing stat boosts
>yfw you realized Marshadow stole all the usefulness and creativity from the rest of the Alolan mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 16:49:17 No.29955516 Report

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>>29950772
Mythicals are banned from all Nintendo formats automatically, Smogon is the most mythical friendly format.

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