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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:04:02 No.29950665 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29950691 >>29950747 >>29952871

Is 75 base speed slow enough for Trick Room? The meta seems too fast for a Swords Dance set, but +2 STAB Wood Hammer under it's Terrain sounds so tempting....

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:05:52 No.29950691 Report

Quoted By: >>29951273 >>29951306

>>29950665
It is not. 70-80 is that really awkward base where you're too slow for standard gameplay and too fast for trick room. I mean you might do well against teams of fast sweepers, but that's all.

Consider maybe a more bulk-oriented set, if you want to use Tapu Bulu

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:10:48 No.29950747 Report

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>>29950665
It's not ideal, but workable. You don't underspeed anything with 50 or less base speed so watch out for that. Though trying to SD under TR is pretty futile in general if you're talking about singles, not enough turns to make it count.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:49:39 No.29951221 Report

Quoted By: >>29952626

I wish this thing was blue in color so I could at least enjoy its color scheme over the design. Of the 4 Tapus it's the one I'm most inclined to use because of the absurd self recovery potential and Earthquake-weakening terrain.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:51:02 No.29951231 Report

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How is this faggot grass type again?

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:55:10 No.29951273 Report

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>>29950691
so El Tigre is slow enough for Trick Room? Why is this guy so based?!

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 12:57:26 No.29951306 Report

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>>29950691
... yes it is. Chandelure (base 80) is a popular choice for Trick Room teams

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 13:11:11 No.29951479 Report

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>>29951306
The difference is Chandelure can set it's own TR, if it couldn't it'd also be considered far too fast for a dedicated TR sweeper.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:27:33 No.29952626 Report

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>>29951221
> implying red is nonsensical on a bull
Are people like you really this uncultured?

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:40:58 No.29952871 Report

Quoted By: >>29952895

>>29950665
In VGC15 one fo the msot successful TR users was M-gardevoir, with 100base speed. it acceled in the role primarily 'cause it could provide it's own offense but it goes to show that higher speeds are prohibitive of a pokemons usage in TR.
The single most popular setter is of course Cresselia, with 85 base sped.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Nov 2016 14:42:33 No.29952895 Report

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>>29952871
*aren't prohibitive
Basically, full TR teams are usaully pretty bad, using a bunch of mid speed tier stuff with other options for speed, like tailwind, icy wind etc, is usually much better. Bulu's speed is just fine

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