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Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:37:14 No.29993834 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29994196 >>29994288 >>29994305 >>29994559 >>29994748 >>29995616 >>29995646 >>29996601

Pyukumuku @Leftovers
Innards Out
252 HP/0 Atk-/52 Def/204 SpD+
~Rest
~Purify
~Sleep Talk
~Toxic

Is it just a gimmick or really usable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:43:11 No.29994006 Report

Quoted By: >>29994647

>rest when all you want is for this absolute shitmon to get offed in a single hit

what kind of meme is this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:49:51 No.29994196 Report

Quoted By: >>29995568

>>29993834
He gets Unaware. Why Innards Out?

>inb4 Unaware was nerfed...
If you still believe that kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:52:05 No.29994254 Report

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im team pyukumuku forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:53:36 No.29994288 Report

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>>29993834
>Taunt and setup bait

This was supposed to be the buffed sweeper ultimate stop and revenge killer. Ironically enough it became the opposite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Nov 2016 23:54:09 No.29994305 Report

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>>29993834
honestly better off with unaware

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:04:07 No.29994559 Report

Quoted By: >>29994603

>>29993834
this thing gets bide right? so... with innards out is this one of the few mons that can use bide decently, since if they kill it before bide activates they get hit by innards out but if they don't kill it they get hit by bide...
does bide work with resttalk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:05:25 No.29994603 Report

Quoted By: >>29994802

>>29994559
They could just use the time to setup though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:07:06 No.29994647 Report

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>>29994006
>offed in a single hit
>has high defenses

Are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:10:27 No.29994748 Report

Quoted By: >>29995527

>>29993834
curse
baton pass
recover
light sceen/reflect/ toxix

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:11:58 No.29994802 Report

Quoted By: >>29994901

>>29994603
good point... wait... even if they setup they still have to kill the pyukumuku right? I don't recall many sets that could phase pyuku out that also have good setup so they'd still have to kill it and take the innards out hit... or am i missing something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:14:49 No.29994901 Report

Quoted By: >>29995016 >>29995050

>>29994802
They could baton pass to something with more HP than it, use Toxic on it, whirlwind/roar/etc., try using resisted moves first, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:18:48 No.29995016 Report

Quoted By: >>29995050

>>29994901
really wish they'd given this thing a better health stat given its main gimmick... oh well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:20:05 No.29995050 Report

Quoted By: >>29995107

>>29994901
>>29995016
Continuing with this, the Pokemon attacking it needs at least 87 base HP with 0 EVs to not be KOd just by Innards Out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:22:23 No.29995107 Report

Quoted By: >>29995209

>>29995050
so... toss out a pyuku as a sacrificial lamb against glass cannon sweepers or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:26:24 No.29995209 Report

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>>29995107
It's going to be hard to OHKO it unless it's a super effective attack or they're already buffed. Not impossible though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:27:45 No.29995247 Report

Quoted By: >>29995505 >>29995512 >>29995559

>Has a giant intestinal fist
>0 (zero) attacking moves
>Has a gimmick ability that would work best if it had high HP and low defenses
>Instead it has high defenses and low HP
>It's completely outclassed by Unaware as a sweep stopper

Is Pyukumuku the most cucked Pokemon of SM? 100% Zygarde being a close second.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:35:13 No.29995456 Report

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say... would swagger, psych up, baton pass, pain split be a functional set for pyuku? you could potentially pass a +2 atk boost via swagger, psychup, baton pass while also being able to make your hp match your opponents via pain split so they kill them selves if they kill you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:37:14 No.29995505 Report

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>>29995247
If it had high HP and low defense, it would get banned for being an instant trade off kill.
This thing is designed to be a switch in against a fast sweeper.

No attacks is bullshit with the existence of Taunt though. Should have at least had some low power attacks with effects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:37:24 No.29995512 Report

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>>29995247
>cucked is a synonym for stupidly statted
okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:37:56 No.29995527 Report

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>>29994748
this guy gets it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:38:49 No.29995559 Report

Quoted By: >>29995679

>>29995247
>Has a gimmick ability that would work best if it had high HP and low defenses
Its ability is pretty good if you max its HP, no/low HP invested attackers get nuked especially if they have a life orb or some residual damage. It basically just keeps it from being able to nuke defensive pokemon when it dies.

Unaware still works better since you don't have to sacrifice it, and you can tox/rest/purify stall forever with it assuming they don't have taunt. It should still get something to attack with, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:39:09 No.29995568 Report

Quoted By: >>29995619 >>29996330

>>29994196
In the leak shots it says "if the pokemon is attacking ignore the target's stat changes" where do you see otherwise?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:41:08 No.29995616 Report

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>>29993834
SACRIFICE IT TO MEGA BLAZIKEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:41:12 No.29995619 Report

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>>29995568
people who got the game early tested it iirc, it works like it always has apparently.

the ability descriptions this time around are kinda crappy, for example Water bubble's description leaves out the fact that it doubles the base power of water moves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:42:07 No.29995646 Report

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>>29993834
Pyukumuku Challenge run when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:43:12 No.29995679 Report

Quoted By: >>29995800 >>29995818

>>29995559
How would it fuck over defensive Pokemon if the amount of damage it does with Innards Out is the amount of HP it had before the last attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:47:08 No.29995781 Report

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Doesn't even learn mega fist smdh. Maybe it'll be able to get the elemental punches from a tutor down the line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:48:05 No.29995800 Report

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>>29995679
I forgot that it was the last HP it had as opposed to the total HP of the mon getting KO'd. Bulky tanks/bulky offensive mon would still take a pretty decent/high bit of damage if it had high HP and low defenses, though. Something like M Aggron hitting a pokemon with like, this pokemon's defenses but inverted would probably KO or at least heavily damage itself easily if a coverage move managed to 2KO it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:48:56 No.29995818 Report

Quoted By: >>29995987

>>29995679
Dump all ev's into HP and switch it in on something that could rape your team to cripple if not kill it outright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 00:57:08 No.29995987 Report

Quoted By: >>29996223

>>29995818
That would be fine, but the attacker would need like 170 base attack/special attack and a STAB 120bp move (not SE) while holding a life orb to have a 50% chance of OHKO a Pyuku with max HP and minimum defense with negative nature.

The attacker either needs to be using a STAB electric or grass attack, having something like Huge Power or Adaptability, or have its attack boosted to be able to OHKO Pyukumuku.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:03:52 No.29996139 Report

Quoted By: >>29996176

Unaware with max EVs in HP and SpD, with Leftovers.

Soak, Toxic, Recover, Refresh.

100% walled by anything with Magic Bounce or Taunt, but otherwise, fuck you I'm not dying. Also, if a poison type is changed with soak, poisoned, swiches out then back in, will it take damage by poison?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:05:26 No.29996176 Report

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>>29996139
>Refresh
Meant purify. My bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:07:35 No.29996223 Report

Quoted By: >>29996249 >>29996275

>>29995987
Can it learn Counter? If so, I can see maybe a niche for it with Counter, Recover, Toxic and Refresh with Innards-Out being a final fuck you to whomever breaks the wall

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:08:31 No.29996249 Report

Quoted By: >>29996347

>>29996223
It gets Counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:09:41 No.29996275 Report

Quoted By: >>29996347

>>29996223
Gets Counter but not Mirror Coat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:12:03 No.29996330 Report

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>>29995568
Its been disproven for a while. Here is the research thread comferming it. http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-sun-moon-battle-mechanics-research.3586701/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:12:31 No.29996347 Report

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>>29996275
>>29996249
Looks like I'm going to do a full team Pyukumuku run during my second playthrough then

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:21:50 No.29996601 Report

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>>29993834
>Pyukumuku @Fightingium
>Innards Out
>252 HP/252 ATK+
>Counter

Why would you use anything else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:23:31 No.29996634 Report

Quoted By: >>29996808

>shut down by taunt
>shut down by sub
>shut down by any poison type
>shut down by any steel type
>shut down by anything with magic guard
>shut down by anything with magic bounce

There's a reason why Shuckle is shit. The same applies here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:30:07 No.29996808 Report

Quoted By: >>29997388

>>29996634
Shuckle can least use Infestation and Contrary Shell Smash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:55:34 No.29997359 Report

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Would it become good if memento triggered innards out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 01:56:40 No.29997388 Report

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>>29996808
You mean Stealth Rock and Sticky Web.

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