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Starmie

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:13:58 No.29999090 View View Reply Original Report

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So is it the undisputed king of Gen 1, being the only Mon to be OU for all six generations? Or was this spoiled because of it's short spout in UU at Greninja's peak, thus giving the title to the late Gengar?
Do you think it'll stay OU come Gen 7? I think it will personally - it has just the right amount of tools to be a reliable spinner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:15:52 No.29999139 Report

Quoted By: >>29999170 >>29999262 >>29999266 >>29999303

>>29999090
Gen 7 hasn't even fleshed out yet, don't count your chickens before they hatch with Gengar. Losing 1 immunity isn't going to drop it alone given it's a primarily offensive mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:17:03 No.29999170 Report

Quoted By: >>29999216 >>29999303

>>29999139
>the denial is real

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:18:00 No.29999199 Report

Quoted By: >>29999222 >>29999262 >>29999282

>Gengar hasn't even dropped to UU yet
>Starmie literally did drop to UU once before

Gengar is king of Gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:18:28 No.29999209 Report

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>>29999090
Depends on whether Greninja is banned or not.

Anyway what do you mean late Gengar? Did gengar got dropped to UU lately?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:18:38 No.29999216 Report

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>>29999170
It's a two-way street buddy. If you're going to cast a line that shallow I'll just call your comment denial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:18:55 No.29999222 Report

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>>29999199
gengar has also spent brief stints in uu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:20:08 No.29999262 Report

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>>29999139
>>29999199
Going from a solid ability for a glass cannon to might as well not even having an ability at all

yeah he'll be fine..................................................

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:20:12 No.29999266 Report

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>>29999139
I don't know anon. Part of the reason why Gengar was so potent was because it could snuff all the defensive Ground types scattered across the tier, making them think twice about spamming EQ. Now that this immunity to one of the most common offensive types in the game has turned into a weakness, I don't know if I can see it staying in OU - especially since its replacement is fucking Cursed Body of all things.
Will it be too powerful for UU? Maybe. Cursed Body Gengar in ORAS would definitely be too much, but Su/Mo will of course be a different meta entirely. Still, I can't see it performing very well in OU with such a vital tool removed.

>>29999209
Gengar lost Levitate for Cursed Body (as well as had Destiny Bond nerfed, but meh). It's debatable whether it will stay in OU or fall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:20:34 No.29999276 Report

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>>29999222
trips don't lie
Gengarfags can seethe forever

Long live Starmie

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:20:42 No.29999282 Report

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>>29999199
Mmm yes, King "The game and anime and guides tell you to use me against Sabrina when I take super-effective damage and they are immune to my Ghost-moves" Gengar, how could I forget

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:21:19 No.29999297 Report

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>>29999222
When was Gengar in UU, for curiosity's sake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:21:34 No.29999302 Report

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>>29999090
>being the only Mon to be OU for all six generations
Gengar says hi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:21:36 No.29999303 Report

Quoted By: >>29999328 >>29999337

>>29999139
>>29999170
Realistically, no levitate means it can benefit from terrains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:22:39 No.29999328 Report

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>>29999303
In doubles, sure, but terrains are pretty shite in singles since they only last 5 turns. Sure there's the Tapus this time around but still, seems pretty situational to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:23:05 No.29999337 Report

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>>29999303
>Gengar is now affected by that weird terrain
>can't use sucker punch or shadow sneak
Yee that sure is helpful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:23:18 No.29999340 Report

Quoted By: >>29999389

>>29999328
Terrain extender

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:24:20 No.29999365 Report

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>>29999090
Starmie is my favorite pokemon, and as much as I'd like to give it that title, the fact that it dropped to UU once and only went up again when Greninja got banned just won't let me.

Also if greninja goes back to OU, then Starmie is going down to UU again. Yes, it's a great spinner and can't hit pretty hard thanks to analytic, but most of the time it just gets rid of hazzards and then dies.

Too bad the psychic type is shit nowadays, otherwise Starmie could be a full fledged support pokemon with recover + screens + rapid spin + other fun shit it gets like cosmic power, trick, scald, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:25:32 No.29999389 Report

Quoted By: >>29999444

>>29999340
Meh, it just sounds like defenders of slow shitmons that claim "it's good under Trick Room!" 2bh

>>29999365
Will Greninja stay OU for Gen 7 though? It still has all the tools that made it so great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:26:06 No.29999399 Report

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>>29999262
>>29999266
Gengar's Levitate hasn't been a factor against any mon except maybe Hippowdon in the last generation. The others still threaten it.

Its coverage is still perfect considering it's basically a 70% Special Marshadow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:27:42 No.29999444 Report

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>>29999389
>Will Greninja stay OU for Gen 7 though?
I dunno. Hard to guess anything at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:30:20 No.29999508 Report

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>>29999090
>being a smogonfag

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:30:38 No.29999516 Report

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Gengarfags can drop down to /vpuu/ any time now
This isn't the place for you anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:31:51 No.29999554 Report

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>>29999090
has Dragonite fall from OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:34:25 No.29999629 Report

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>>29999554
It was UU until Gen 4 brought the physical/special split

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:34:44 No.29999646 Report

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>>29999554
dragonite was BL in gen 3 because of salamence

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:44:39 No.29999994 Report

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Arcanine a best. Gengar and Starmie fags btfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:44:51 No.30000038 Report

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does starmie have a tight puss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:59:01 No.30000490 Report

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>>29999090
I do love Starmie. Gengar is also one of my favorites. And Alakazam and Hypno. But I'm a genwunner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 03:59:27 No.30000500 Report

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>>29999337
(you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 04:06:50 No.30000677 Report

Quoted By: >>30000901 >>30002035

>Starmie is going to go first and kill my Pokemon with a supereffective attack
>I switch, take a huge Analytic boosted attack and still lose
Who designed this fucking Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 04:16:26 No.30000901 Report

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>>30000677
Oh wow, you took a high-damage hit and lost!
How shocking!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 04:33:42 No.30001257 Report

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>>29999282
i thought Ghost had an advantage against Psychic in Gen 1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 04:34:57 No.30001277 Report

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>>30001257
Yes but there were literally zero good ghost moves to use against that bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 04:36:22 No.30001311 Report

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>>29999090
You misspelled Gengar, starmie actually dropped to UU once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 04:36:32 No.30001319 Report

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>>30001257
When your best move is a physical lick and your only ghost type is gengar it's not really an advantage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 04:51:47 No.30001607 Report

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Jolteon used to be solid OU too

On Gen 2, it's Skarmory and Tyrannitar I believe. Forretess and Blissey used to be solid OU their career too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 04:55:52 No.30001682 Report

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>>29999297
It wasn't UU but it spent a very brief stay in BL during gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 05:10:53 No.30002001 Report

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If Greninja stays in OU, Starmie will be UU easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 05:13:07 No.30002035 Report

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>>30000677
It only has 100 Special Attack, which by Gen 7 is much less impressive than it used to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 05:13:33 No.30002042 Report

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>>29999554
It was UU in Gen 1 surprisingly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 06:07:47 No.30003008 Report

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>>30001257
Psychic in Gen 1 was glitched so that it was immune to Ghost.

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