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ITT: Make Sets for Seventh Generations Mons

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 15:27:42 No.30010849 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30010968 >>30011391 >>30014265

Are there any preliminary competitive sets out yet for any of the new mons or Alola Forms? I know the game came out today but the .cias been out for ages.

If not, let's make some! I'll start with the easiest shit in the book: Toxapex

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic Spikes
- Recover
- Scald
- Sludge Wave

I heard Merciless could be useful, but Toxapex isn't really an attacker? Regenerator seems more useful at any rate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 15:34:25 No.30010968 Report

Quoted By: >>30011236

>>30010849
Switch Sludge Wave for Baneful Bunker and you're good to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 15:48:35 No.30011236 Report

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>>30010968
thanks pham

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 15:55:43 No.30011391 Report

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>>30010849
>I heard Merciless could be useful, but Toxapex isn't really an attacker?
While this is true, one can also argue that with the high powered attacks you're able to get out of Merciless it can become a very potent attacker. Venoshock, for example becomes a 292.5 BP move. Together with natural bulk and reliable recovery, it can be potent. Not top tier by any means, but definitely something that can catch a few opponents off-guard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 15:59:13 No.30011460 Report

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Porygon-Z @ Normalium Z
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Recover
- Conversion

step 1: spam shadow ball
step 2: use HP if they are immune

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 16:12:42 No.30011690 Report

Quoted By: >>30014130 >>30014265

could someone help me out with a good set up for my monoghost team?
so for i've got
Mimikyu @ Life Orb
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Play Rough
>Shadow Sneak
>Leech Life
>swords Dance

Dhelmise @ Assault Vest/ Leftovers/ Life Orb
252 HP/ 252 Atk
Brave Nature
-Rapid Spin/ Giga Drain?
-Anchor shot
-Power Whip
-Shadow Claw/ Gyro Ball?

GIVE SUGGESTIONS PLS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 17:15:29 No.30012885 Report

Quoted By: >>30014110 >>30014265

Guys
infestation

This sounds like so much fun
but I can't wrap my head around what other moves to use, 4 moveslots seem not enough for this thing.

I guess toxic is a given or it's setup fodder.
Merciless sounds more fun if the opponent can't switch too.
Then you want some recovery, so slap recover on it.
Now we're at
Merciless with
Recover
Infestation
Toxic
and probably venomshock
but this way it has no coverage
take any move away and the set breaks apart.

Any suggestions how to make infestation work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 17:59:22 No.30013890 Report

Quoted By: >>30014110 >>30014265

I'm thinking of getting into competitive play. How does this work for Silvally?
Silvally-Steel @ Steel Memory
Ability: RKS System
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 248 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- Parting Shot
- Dragon Claw
- Aerial Ace

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:11:14 No.30014110 Report

Quoted By: >>30014387 >>30014388

>>30012885
Toxic Spikes > Toxic so you set it up once and have Merciless up for every opponent.
Alternatively just go full bulk with Regenerator if you want to use Infestation.

>>30013890
Why the 4HP/SDef over maxed speed?
Very bad coverage moves as well, completely walled by other Steels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:12:24 No.30014130 Report

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>>30011690
Palossand @ Passho Berry/ Weakness Policy
Ability: Water Compaction /Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpDef / 4 SpA
IVs: 0 Spe
Sassy
-Shore Up
-Sandstorm/Iron Defense
-Giga Drain
-Earth Power/Shadow Ball

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:14:03 No.30014158 Report

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Here's your braindead Pokemon this gen.

Minior @ White Herb
Ability: Shields Down
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shell Smash
- Acrobatics
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

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Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:14:36 No.30014171 Report

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Goddamn this is Gen VI Kalsomons all over again

Why do the new mons get FUCK ALL for coverage (and in some cases even STAB)

And just as usual there are no actual move tutors

FUCK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:19:24 No.30014265 Report

Quoted By: >>30014366 >>30014387 >>30014388

>>30010849
Haze looks far more useful than sludge wave in what will probably be smogon OU
>>30011690
The sets are alright so far. Are you talking about an ingame monoghost team?
>>30012885
If you're using merciless there's not reason not to go with venoshock, you don't need much coverage anyways if you're choosing when it's worth to stay in and trap
>>30013890
Makes little sense unfortunately, it has bad coverage and doesn't hit nowhere near hard. Look into arceus' sets to see what are the benefit of multi type, movepool wise
>>30014130
Weakness policy on a slow mon is really wasted, and both stabs look better than sandstorm/ID (you won't have time to setup like that)
>>30014158
If it gets little usage one can probably sacrifice some speed for some bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:20:49 No.30014290 Report

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What are the best natures for Owl, Cat and Seal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:25:00 No.30014366 Report

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>>30014265
This Palossand is for a Trick Room team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:25:53 No.30014387 Report

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>>30014110
>>30014265
I overlooked this but Multi attack is better than iron head so I just change that. This is way harder than I thought

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:25:55 No.30014388 Report

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>>30014110
>>30014265
thanks guys, makes sense to me.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:44:08 No.30014804 Report

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Aloan Persian @ Darkinium Z
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 Hp / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
-Foul Play
-Taunt
-Toxic
-Parting Shot

Z-Parting Shot lowers Atk & Sp.Atk by one stage and fully heals the incoming pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Nov 2016 18:45:48 No.30014846 Report

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Persian-Alola (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Foul Play
- Taunt
- Parting Shot
- filler

Already using him on Showdown

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