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I have had 0 trouble with it, maybe my team just naturally counters it.
Someone post examples of it sweeping or breaking through walls or something because those stats tell me it should be fucking borked but whenever I fight it all it does it either set up and die or just land a semi strong hit and die.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:19:10 No.30027437 Report

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>>30027400
carlos...?

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Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:19:29 No.30027450 Report

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>>30027400

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Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:19:34 No.30027452 Report

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>>30027019
>low bp moves
it's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:19:41 No.30027458 Report

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>litten used ember!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:19:49 No.30027463 Report

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>>30027422
well, it got weak as fuck STABs, so its power is kinda dampened before getting the first Beast Boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:20:37 No.30027487 Report

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>>30027019
In b4
Charmander's Quick Claw let it move first!
Charmander used ember

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:23:40 No.30027547 Report

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>>30027463
Quick question, does anyone know what beast boost does if a UB has two equal stats?

please don't say they both get boosted

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:24:44 No.30027572 Report

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>>30027019
Pheremosa is better just because it has beter moves to abuse. Its second though.

Pheremosa > Kartana > Xurkitree > Nihilego and Celesteela > Buzzwole > Guzzlord

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:24:54 No.30027576 Report

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>>30027547
I think the priorities are Attack > Def > Spattk > Sp Def > Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:25:12 No.30027581 Report

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>>30027019
>vulpix used fire spin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:28:25 No.30027654 Report

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>>30027029
>Dies to any priority move ever
>op

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:29:46 No.30027687 Report

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>>30027019
You have to run Kartana with a Z-Move to nab the really crucial KOs, especially against those Pokemon that can hit its abysmal special defense stat. Fortunately its movepool of sword techniques lend it several attacks of different types to Z-Strike with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:30:45 No.30027713 Report

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>>30027029
>Scizor used Vacuum Wave

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:30:54 No.30027715 Report

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>>30027654
>252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Pheromosa: 87-103 (59.1 - 70%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Pheromosa: 90-106 (61.2 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
now THAT made me think

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:31:48 No.30027741 Report

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>>30027572
>TFW my favorite UB is the worst overall

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:33:17 No.30027775 Report

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>>30027572
Nihilego isn't that great I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:33:18 No.30027776 Report

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>>30027458
>implying it wouldn't outspeed Litten
>implying it wouldn't outspeed anything in the Litten line

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:34:09 No.30027790 Report

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>>30027776
DELETE THIS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:35:27 No.30027820 Report

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>>30027019
>charmander used ember

no, literally, do the calcs. Charmander ember will kill it. It's super frail on the special side and while it's decently fast, anything that moves faster and carries a neutral or better special move off of 95 spA or more can OHKO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:47:31 No.30028100 Report

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>>30027715
To be fair, Pheromosa resists sucker punch twice, and Azumarill unboosted can't hit for fuck all even with full attack investment and huge power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:48:50 No.30028125 Report

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think of it like a massive iron sphere.

It's hard to get rolling, but once it starts it's very hard to stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 04:51:04 No.30028171 Report

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>>30027019
I see Pheremosa getting more usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 05:00:14 No.30028370 Report

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>>30027029
>Bravest Bird used Sneaky Feathers!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 05:01:15 No.30028396 Report

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>>30028370
>Using a NU mon in Ubers just to attack Pheremosa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 05:13:54 No.30028668 Report

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>>30028396
KEK
E
K

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 05:33:02 No.30029025 Report

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>>30027019
Absolutely barren movepool, it needs move tutors for Iron Head ASAP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 05:35:26 No.30029072 Report

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>>30028100
Bug does not resist dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 05:45:15 No.30029264 Report

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>>30027019
>litten used ember

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 05:49:03 No.30029354 Report

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>>30027029
mega beedrill used hp grass

Vapo

Vapo Sat 19 Nov 2016 07:35:11 No.30031139 Report

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>>30028100
Not the same poster, but bug doesn't resist dark, it's just duper effective against it.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 07:56:35 No.30031387 Report

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If you send it out against a physical attacker that it resists, you can sub/SD and work wonders. But it's yoo much of a glass cannon most of the time and its speed lets it fall behind of a number of threats that it could otherwise destroy with ease (Mega-Diancie for instance).

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Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 08:04:01 No.30031478 Report

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>>30029072
Sucker Punch is Ghost though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 08:27:22 No.30031771 Report

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>>30027019
>ferrothorn used hidden power fire

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Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 08:34:21 No.30031840 Report

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>>30027307

And that's great for it. Hitting really hard is a very valuable asset, especially for HO teams.

Pheromosa has at least 4 usable sets, and it will get more moves when the next games come out and their tutor moves are revealed. Pheromosa will simply get better in the upcoming years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 08:39:13 No.30031882 Report

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>>30028100
>Azumarill unboosted can't hit for fuck all even with full attack investment and huge power.

You do know Azumarril hits as hard as Deoxys-N, right, as it has the equlivant of base 150 attack with Huge Power?

Huge Power doesn't double your BASE attack stat, it doubles your ACTUAL attack stat in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 10:12:04 No.30032788 Report

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>>30027019
chimchar uses ember

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 11:05:01 No.30033386 Report

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>>30027019
>Shuckle used HP-fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 11:10:10 No.30033433 Report

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>Greninja used Water Shuriken!
>it hit 5 times!
>wild Kartashit fainted!
>Greninja's Battle Bond activated!
>proceed to 6-0 my opponent
Your ub tears are delicious lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 11:14:31 No.30033491 Report

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>>30033433
>wild

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 11:41:53 No.30033760 Report

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>>30027019
IT'S 1 FOOT TALL

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Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 11:45:45 No.30033791 Report

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>>30027029
It is. Till Buff skitter comes on its way. LITERALLY can wall it, ive been using it to stop its HJKs and all that shit while getting a free bulk up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 11:46:57 No.30033806 Report

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>>30033433
Dude. Lets play on smogon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 11:57:37 No.30033923 Report

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>>30027572
Celesteela is better than xurkitree and arguably kartana

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 12:10:35 No.30034069 Report

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>>30027572
Not really.
Surprisingly, they are all at least quite good.

Pheromosa > Celesteela (future OU monster staple) > Kartana > Buzzwole = Xurkitree > Nihilego = Guzzlord

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 12:47:32 No.30034507 Report

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>>30027572
>tfw got an adamant pheramosa

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 12:54:54 No.30034587 Report

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>>30034507
You had 4 chances, so... I guess good job?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 14:03:56 No.30035477 Report

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>>30029072
Fighting does

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Anonymous Sat 19 Nov 2016 14:07:49 No.30035539 Report

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>>30033433
>Startershit
>KOing anything
>Ever

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