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Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 02:35:30 No.30078706 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30079182 >>30079437 >>30079825 >>30080170 >>30082000

>people genuinely thought Zygarde-Complete was going to be shit
It has comparable bulk to fucking Chansey

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 02:55:08 No.30079182 Report

Quoted By: >>30079441

>>30078706
>so shit of a legendary his 700 BST form needs to be compared to a Chansey

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:03:37 No.30079437 Report

Quoted By: >>30079601 >>30079918

>>30078706
>hyped up as fuck legendary with a bst of 708 and getting a whole season dedicated to the anime isn't even uber tier and much less mega fug tier like it was hyped up to be

It is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:03:42 No.30079441 Report

Quoted By: >>30079778

>>30079182
It also has an actual offensive presence., can run an item, can set up, etc. Thousand Arrows is an amazing STAB, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:09:27 No.30079601 Report

Quoted By: >>30079636

>>30079437
>isn't even uber tier
Just wait, nigga is busted. Power Construct Zygarde 50% is headed to Ubers. Will it be very good there? Probably not, but it's going there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:10:47 No.30079636 Report

Quoted By: >>30079717 >>30079766 >>30079781

>>30079601
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:13:36 No.30079717 Report

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>>30079636
It can easily solo entire teams.
And that's exactly what happens, since it can't be phased if it's your last pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:15:31 No.30079766 Report

Quoted By: >>30080285

>>30079636
it has ~200/100/100 defenses

if it ever gets a rest off, good fucking luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:15:47 No.30079778 Report

Quoted By: >>30079824

>>30079441
>700 BST in OU
Kill yourself zycuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:15:51 No.30079781 Report

Quoted By: >>30080068

>>30079636
I'm saying Power Construct Zygarde 50%, the forme that everyone uses to become Zygarde 100%, is too good for OU and will, at some point down the road, get a suspect test and get formally banned from Smogon Gen VII OU.

Not going to speak for Power Construct Zygarde 10% because I don't know how reliably it can set up, or for either Aura Break variant. The game counts Power Construct Zygarde as different formes to Aura Break Zygarde, so they should be tiered differently just like how Battle Bond Greninja is tiered differently from other Greninja.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:17:48 No.30079824 Report

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>>30079778
It's literally the most broken mon in OU right now

it'll probably get banned along with Aegislash and Pheromosa soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:17:49 No.30079825 Report

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>>30078706
>tfw literally using aegislash as set up fodder
What a time to be alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:21:06 No.30079918 Report

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>>30079437
>is great in OU, where many ubers dropped to start this gen
>not at least pretty good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:26:58 No.30080068 Report

Quoted By: >>30080122

>>30079781
Eh, there are ways to deal with it. It's good, but not crazy good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:29:14 No.30080122 Report

Quoted By: >>30080154 >>30080322

>>30080068
Such as?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:30:28 No.30080154 Report

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>>30080122
Ice-types hitting it with STAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:31:02 No.30080170 Report

Quoted By: >>30080275

>>30078706
Once again, /vp/ proves to bad at Pokemon, including myself. I thought it was going to Darmanitan-Zen Mode tier trash. Turns out being a Restalker with 1000 Arrows and 216/121/95 defenses is really good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:34:34 No.30080275 Report

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>>30080170
It is resisted by only 2 types with a single STAB move, and essentially triples its HP and heals when it hits below 50%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:34:52 No.30080285 Report

Quoted By: >>30080307 >>30080308 >>30080309 >>30080346

>>30079766
Does it stay in 100% form if its hp is recovered?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:35:34 No.30080307 Report

Quoted By: >>30080346

>>30080285
Yes. Is Minior the same way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:35:41 No.30080308 Report

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>>30080285
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:35:42 No.30080309 Report

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>>30080285
Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:36:15 No.30080322 Report

Quoted By: >>30080378 >>30080880

>>30080122
Any set lacking attack investment is countered by toxapex.

Magerna's Fleur Cannon always ohkos

Greninja and Phermosa OHKO with ice beam (but gene doesn't wtf???)

Alola Ninetales beats it unless behind a sub, it gets revenged by xurkitree unless it has a lot of boosts.

Basically you have to hit it really hard on the special side

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:36:58 No.30080346 Report

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>>30080285
Yes. Which is why it's so ridiculously broken.

>>30080307
Yes, but not in Showdown because Zarel is a cuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:38:19 No.30080378 Report

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>>30080322
Man, thank Christ Toxapex gets Haze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 03:57:26 No.30080880 Report

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>>30080322
252+ SpA Magearna Fleur Cannon vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Zygarde: 348-410 (56.1 - 66.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Second hit won't KO at -2 either.
252+ SpA Pheromosa Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Zygarde: 336-396 (54.1 - 63.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Zygarde: 408-484 (65.8 - 78%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
a-ninetails can sometimes oneshot with blizzard though
and yes 252+ SpD is the standard Zygarde set
If you're that concerned about getting 1HKOed as 50%, you can run sashed 10% too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 04:43:42 No.30082000 Report

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>>30078706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB3-tsLOBh4

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