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>>30086091
anon Sandslash-A is to hail what Exca is to sand.
Don't underestimate it because it's a lot better than it looks on paper.
That Ice STAB completely fucks Skarmory over, something Exca can't do.

Also Aurora Veil is sweet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 08:53:59 No.30086139 Report

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>>30086094
The only reason he lost is because Zygarde-C is broken, otherwise he totally deserved to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:00:46 No.30086223 Report

Quoted By: >>30086250

>>30086114
>That Ice STAB completely fucks Skarmory over

What am I missing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:02:53 No.30086250 Report

Quoted By: >>30086411

>>30086223
+2 LO Icicle Crash does over 60% to Skarm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:14:10 No.30086389 Report

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>>30086094
that's pretty impressive actually

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:15:46 No.30086411 Report

Quoted By: >>30086423 >>30086586

>>30086250
>+2
>lol guys look at these sick calcs after boosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:16:42 No.30086423 Report

Quoted By: >>30086441

>>30086411
it's a setup sweeper you mong.
its entire purpose is setting up SD in hail and sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:18:23 No.30086441 Report

Quoted By: >>30086465

>>30086423
>+6 252+ SpA Magikarp Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Skarmory: 255-300 (76.3 - 89.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

lol so OP crazy guys :DDDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:19:49 No.30086465 Report

Quoted By: >>30086483

>>30086441
didn't know magikarp had simple+tail glow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:20:12 No.30086468 Report

Quoted By: >>30086497

>>30086075
I'm sweeping teams with it, killing aegislashs left and right. In hail it even outspeeds Roach of healthy meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:21:43 No.30086483 Report

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>>30086465
you fucking smog mong

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:22:46 No.30086497 Report

Quoted By: >>30086514 >>30086537

>>30086468
You have so many better options that fill the role much better and can actually take hits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:24:36 No.30086514 Report

Quoted By: >>30086614

>>30086497
there is no better setup sweeper in hail. you people are seriously underestimating its power, speed, physical bulk and defensive typing.

Aurora Veil alone is fucking great and if you're running Ninetales you might as well run Sandslash-A. hail team=/= mono-ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:26:42 No.30086537 Report

Quoted By: >>30086631 >>30086704

>>30086497
252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Sandslash-Alola through Reflect: 204-242 (68.2 - 80.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

With veil up, which is the entire purpose of using it in the first place. It definitely can take hits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:30:44 No.30086586 Report

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>>30086411
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 125-147 (37.4 - 44%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

This is the best Exca can do against the most common physical wall in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:34:16 No.30086614 Report

Quoted By: >>30086625 >>30086796

>>30086514
>>30086114
>>30086075
I wish people would stop calling Alolan Pokémon Pokémon-A. It's "Alolan X", so call it A-Pokémon. Jesus Christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:35:01 No.30086625 Report

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>>30086614
I call alolan sandslash Snowslash and alolan ninetales Fairytales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:35:33 No.30086631 Report

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>>30086537
>it's good in hail, with veil up and at +2
next you're gonna tell me to just baton pass it some boosts in trick room after ninetales faints

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:36:49 No.30086645 Report

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>>30086094
>Sending A-Ninetales instead of Lele at the end
Total fuck up. It hurt when I saw the Zygarde survive with a sliver of health and use Rest.

The flinch on Skarmory was the only reason he got that far too. Pretty lucky overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:38:22 No.30086668 Report

Quoted By: >>30086701

>>30086631
it doesn't need +2 to oneshot both aegislash or roach, which it both outspeeds.
the +2 was the other anon, although he is completely right that it's super easy to set up with that bulk and veil up.
I've swept entire teams on multiple occasions with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:39:45 No.30086690 Report

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>>30086094
>3480734780347803478034 turns of back and forth stalling shit

so THIS.....is the power....of competitive pokemon..........

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:40:40 No.30086701 Report

Quoted By: >>30086728

>>30086668
>oneshotting aegislash when it outspeeds
so you are actually retarded, good to know

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:40:48 No.30086704 Report

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>>30086537
252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Fire Fang vs. 4 HP / 20 Def Sandslash through Reflect: 126-150 (83.4 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:42:31 No.30086728 Report

Quoted By: >>30086739

>>30086701
Elaborate, are you?
If you are referring to shadow sneak, have this
252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Sneak vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Sandslash-Alola through Reflect: 34-41 (11.3 - 13.7%) -- possible 8HKO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:43:44 No.30086739 Report

Quoted By: >>30086747 >>30086748 >>30086781

>>30086728
no you fucking retard. you won't oneshot an aegislash because it's in SHIELD FORM

jesus christ, you karenfags are the dumbest piles of shit I've ever seen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:45:32 No.30086747 Report

Quoted By: >>30086807

>>30086739
EQ doesn't make contact. And if the Aegi user is retarded and uses shield in the first turn, you get a free SD.
This is what actually has happened every time I've seen an Aegi so far anyway.
Switch in, get free boost, sweep 3 mon before hail stops.
You are the one being retarded here.

Norp

Norp Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:45:32 No.30086748 Report

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>>30086739
I used to carry a diggersby to rape the inevitable aegislash with a motherfucking 2x huge power earthquake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:48:59 No.30086781 Report

Quoted By: >>30086807

>>30086739
Just to elaborate for your little brain, the absolute worst case scenario is:

I predict shied, so I SD
Aegi uses sacred sword instead of shield
next round I EQ, Aegi uses shield
next round I EQ again, Aegi might use shadow sneak which still won't kill

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:50:30 No.30086796 Report

Quoted By: >>30086838

>>30086614
It's an quicker acronym than typing out the entire word dipshit. Plus, you clearly understand what they're referring, so I see no point in bitching about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:52:24 No.30086807 Report

Quoted By: >>30086890

>>30086747
>>30086781
>in my worst case scenario I predict properly
yeah, I'm done with you retards. go enjoy being bottom ladder trash that posts their worthless replays against retards who get 6-0d even by showderp on reddit. at least I never have to face such inbred mouthbreathers myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 09:55:42 No.30086838 Report

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>>30086796
I bet you say SuMo as well, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:03:03 No.30086890 Report

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>>30086807
Wow, you also lack reading comprehension. If I would have predicted correctly I would have SDd while he had Shielded.
In my example he attacks me instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:07:04 No.30086930 Report

Quoted By: >>30087670

>>30086075
Snowslash is legit.
It's one of those mons that look like a complete mess on paper but it does work in practice.
The only team support it really needs is Ninetales-A but Aurora Veil is good enough to justify that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:11:47 No.30086987 Report

Quoted By: >>30087015 >>30087066

>>30086075
>Anything used Vacuum wave!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:14:23 No.30087015 Report

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>>30086987
>Being 4x weak to the least common priority move in the game.

Gee, that's really bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:18:43 No.30087066 Report

Quoted By: >>30087126

>>30086987
I'll humour you, even though there are basically 0 legit vacuum wave users.
252 SpA Life Orb Infernape Vacuum Wave vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Sandslash-Alola through Light Screen: 211-250 (70.5 - 83.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:25:04 No.30087126 Report

Quoted By: >>30087227

>>30087066
That, and the fact you can always pair it with Tapu Lele if you're concerned about priority.

Really Snowslash is a lot easier to setup than it seems. And once it gets a +2 boost it's gonna hurt stuff.

Even without setting up, LO-boosted Icicle Crash hurts and the most common ice resists (Toxapex, Heatran and Aegislash) happen to be weak to EQ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:31:03 No.30087183 Report

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>>30086094
If anything this shows how obscenely broken Zygarde-100% is.

I'll give you that Snowy isn't half bad though. It did put some work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:34:27 No.30087227 Report

Quoted By: >>30087286

>>30087126
Relying on Tapu lele is a bad idea though.
I usually set veil with Fairytales and if I switch into Snowslash right after, I can only effectively sweep for 3 rounds (losing one for switching and one for SDing).
Setting a terrain requires too much time and would run out before you could get shit done anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:40:00 No.30087286 Report

Quoted By: >>30087296

>>30087227
Aren't you running Light Clay on Ninetales?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:40:48 No.30087296 Report

Quoted By: >>30087315

>>30087286
Yes, I'm talking about hail running out, fucking its speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:42:12 No.30087315 Report

Quoted By: >>30087322 >>30087492

>>30087296
Then maybe Icy Rock is a better option to extend the sweep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:43:03 No.30087322 Report

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>>30087315
no, veil is good for the entire team while hail only really benefits Snowslash and Fairytales. That's just not worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 10:59:20 No.30087492 Report

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>>30087315
A friend of mine who is preddy gud competitively said he prefers icy rock, but it really boils down to every specific match. I guess I'll just throw a coin every day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 11:05:53 No.30087564 Report

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>>30086094
>it only gets hp, guys! it's shit!
Yeah, proving yet again that /vp/ doesn't know anything about pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Nov 2016 11:13:01 No.30087670 Report

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>>30086930
Not like A-ninetales is bad anyway with 100% stab blizzard, freeze-dry and fairy type

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