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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:25:12 No.30181792 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30181830 >>30181837 >>30182027 >>30182274 >>30184813 >>30184839 >>30185657 >>30185688 >>30185699 >>30186781 >>30187083 >>30187091 >>30190521

This is the best pokemon released this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:26:26 No.30181830 Report

Quoted By: >>30181988 >>30185501

>>30181792
It's a coward wearing a diaper, don't make me laugh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:26:35 No.30181837 Report

Quoted By: >>30183941

>>30181792
>Implying Wimpod isn't better

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:33:25 No.30181988 Report

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>>30181830
That's a loincloth, fucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:35:12 No.30182027 Report

Quoted By: >>30182123 >>30184713 >>30185520 >>30186151 >>30187519

>>30181792
idk why people shit on it for emergency exit, it's an amazing ability for him. Solid bulk plus tons of high power priority moves mean he can use a priority move, tank a hit, fall to half then switch out.

First Impression is like a built in super strong slow U-turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:39:34 No.30182123 Report

Quoted By: >>30182160 >>30182186 >>30182195

>>30182027
>idk why people shit on it for emergency exit
They're retarded

So fucking much can be done with that in doubles. Hes kinda tanky and the move set looks like some high tier cancer.

Unfortunately non retards wont fall for him twice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:41:22 No.30182160 Report

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>>30182123
He's amazing in the battle tree though, and I'm gonna have lots of fun with him in unranked BSS against retard legend spammer kids. See how much your Mewtwo and Deoxys like my beetleborg's sick first impression poses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:42:50 No.30182186 Report

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>>30182123
Seconding. The biggest problem with Golisopod is how prominent Tapu Lele and Psychic Terrain will be. Denies him of 1-2 great moves, depending on how reliant you are on priority.

But that ability works so well with First Impression it's not even funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:43:16 No.30182195 Report

Quoted By: >>30182213 >>30188254

>>30182123
>not teaching your araquanid entrainment and giving Water Bubble to your Golisopod so you can spam the fuck out of aqua jet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:44:16 No.30182213 Report

Quoted By: >>30185300

>>30182195
>using two pokemon with the exact same , rock slide weak typing together in doubles

hello sub 1000 shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:45:12 No.30182234 Report

Quoted By: >>30182275

I find it really surprising that a villain boss (who isn't the main story boss) would have a pokemon like that.

Guzma is arguably even harder than Lusamine simply because you can't set up for a clear sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:47:07 No.30182274 Report

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>>30181792
Not gonna lie he carried me hard during the postgame. Would've wiped several times if not for First Impression OHKOing everything weak to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:47:18 No.30182275 Report

Quoted By: >>30182383

>>30182234
Guzma's first two fights are kind of a joke but his third fight is among the hardest in the game IMO. It all depends on team comp though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 16:52:20 No.30182383 Report

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>>30182275
That seems to be a trend in this game

If you don't have type coverage for totems you get hardcore fucked but if you do their super fucking easy

That even seems to be true for the kahunas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 17:56:10 No.30183941 Report

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>>30181837
FUCK off

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 18:31:02 No.30184713 Report

Quoted By: >>30184777 >>30185425 >>30186010

>>30182027

>First Impression is like a built in super strong slow U-turn.

Except the point of U-Turn is to do damage and NOT get hit, so no

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 18:33:33 No.30184777 Report

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>>30184713
>hey guys i'm sub 1000 take my opinion seriously please

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 18:35:16 No.30184813 Report

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>>30181792

You somehow got the wrong picture instead of Mimikyu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 18:36:11 No.30184839 Report

Quoted By: >>30185325

>>30181792
someone shoop what it would look like without the baby arms

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 18:53:13 No.30185268 Report

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That's not Toxapex

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 18:54:34 No.30185300 Report

Quoted By: >>30185964

>>30182213
Wide Guard exists

the real problem is that there's no way to avoid Fake Out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 18:55:36 No.30185325 Report

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>>30184839
play with it in Refresh and you can see

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 18:59:07 No.30185425 Report

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>>30184713
U-Turn gives switch advantage. Basically those moves allow you to decide who you want to take a hit without giving up a turn for a hard switch. If he was not bulky or a shitty defensive typing then yeah it would suck, but he takes a hit and lets you bring in your sweeper or wallbreaker or whatever consequence free.

Does this clarify things?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 18:59:28 No.30185435 Report

Quoted By: >>30185479

I like beetle but swordmon is best mon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:01:05 No.30185479 Report

Quoted By: >>30186050

>>30185435
>beetle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:01:54 No.30185501 Report

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>>30181830
fuck i shit myself literally laughing at this, wish i had been wearing a diaper

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:02:37 No.30185520 Report

Quoted By: >>30185560 >>30185570 >>30185633 >>30185819

>>30182027
>Golisopod is sent out
>predict First Impression(because who fucking wouldn't first turn?)
>fucker is too slow to do anything, can probably get a sucker punch off next turn
>hit Golisopod for 50% of it's health
>it switches out
>repeat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:04:45 No.30185560 Report

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>>30185520
This. Looks good playing against shit NPCs but competitively he'll be a joke within a week because everything about him is 100% predictable from his moveset to strategy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:05:17 No.30185570 Report

Quoted By: >>30185996

>>30185520
http://www.serebii.net/games/speedpriority.shtml

>First Impression +2
>Sucker Punch +1

This is why you should not theorymon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:07:56 No.30185633 Report

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>>30185520
or anything with protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:08:48 No.30185647 Report

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>base 40 speed
dear fucking GOD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:09:08 No.30185657 Report

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>>30181792
That's depressing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:10:29 No.30185688 Report

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>>30181792
nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:10:54 No.30185699 Report

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>>30181792
That's not Pyukumuku

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:15:55 No.30185819 Report

Quoted By: >>30185905

>>30185520
>predict first impression

See this is where you fuck up. Predicting the first impression and hard switching or protecting give him ample opportunity to swords dance or set up iron defense or if he wants to be super cheeky he can z-move and bust through your protect. Yes a mon is a shitty if you predict it.

It won't be OU. But it'll probably find a solid place in UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:18:55 No.30185905 Report

Quoted By: >>30186030

>>30185819
what's the point of setting up when you can be forced out by your own ability

Just do LO + 4 attacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:21:58 No.30185964 Report

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>>30185300
It's still hugely stupid to use two pokemon of the exact same typing together unless there's a compelling reason to do so, and entrainment gimmicks aren't really that good of a reason. They've been around for a long time and have never been relevant in high level play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:22:53 No.30185996 Report

Quoted By: >>30186108

>>30185570
what are you trying to say here?
>turn 1, golisopod uses first impression
>it's blocked by protect or i switch out to a better type advantage
>turn 2, golisopod is forced to switch out or goes for a sucker punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:23:18 No.30186010 Report

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>>30184713
How? Scizor is a good U turner because he can take hits

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:23:50 No.30186030 Report

Quoted By: >>30186465 >>30188413

>>30185905
>what's the point of setting up iron defenses that make you not have to switch out against a physical mon as often if you're ability forces you to switch
>what's the point of getting a +2 attack sucker punch or aqua jet or liquidation (if you predict a switch or you can stay +50%) when you're just gonna be forced to switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:24:55 No.30186050 Report

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>>30185479
I want it as a pet.
I heard isopod were supposed to be mostly slow and inactive shits due to environment, surprised they didn't rape it with Truant or slow start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:26:49 No.30186108 Report

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>>30185996
So you will run protect in every one of your mons or you're confident in predicting a golisopod switch every time? You're also confident it will run First Impression and use it every available chance?

I suppose when you operate on a wavelength with all these assumptions being inevitabilities then yeah Golisopod is kind of shitty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:28:46 No.30186151 Report

Quoted By: >>30186409

>>30182027
Emergency exit would've been excellent if it still let you attack before the switch out or if it worked like baton pass and you could boost with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:30:29 No.30186186 Report

Quoted By: >>30186437 >>30186443 >>30186531 >>30186764

I love Golisopod. I'm actually working on my first set, one purely for friendgroup shenanigans and I'd love some feedback.
>Adamant/Jolly can't decide
>Life Orb?
>252 Atk/Spe
>First Impression, Aqua Jet, Metal Claw, Sucker Punch
I also can't remember the "proper format" so bear with me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:40:11 No.30186409 Report

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>>30186151
It does let you attack if you take advantage of his deep priority movepool which is what you're supposed to do with him unless you're running him on TR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:40:20 No.30186413 Report

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Should I drop my Alakazam for a Raichu? I don't have an Electric type and Alakazam is so good it feels like cheating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:41:14 No.30186437 Report

Quoted By: >>30186734

>>30186186
Life Orb is asking for trouble, and Metal Claw isn't amazingly useful for it

Also you shouldn't run jolly because 3 of the moves you have are priority moves what are you doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:41:27 No.30186443 Report

Quoted By: >>30186734

>>30186186
Dump metal claw for leech life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:41:57 No.30186455 Report

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>what is leech life
exit the premises

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:42:36 No.30186465 Report

Quoted By: >>30188038

>>30186030
>+2 aqua jet or non-stab sucker punch
>instead of a strong stab move with decent bp + aqua jet/sucker punch

Bad idea unless the entirety of your opponent's team is already almost dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:45:10 No.30186524 Report

Quoted By: >>30190664

>pineco used stealth rock

lmao you only need to do 25% to render diaper babby impotent

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:45:28 No.30186531 Report

Quoted By: >>30186734

>>30186186
I feel like leech life is better than metal claw. Healing + A strong stab that isnt first impression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:56:30 No.30186734 Report

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>>30186531
>>30186437
>>30186443
Thanks Anons!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:57:59 No.30186764 Report

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>>30186186
Poison jab instead of Metal claw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:58:48 No.30186781 Report

Quoted By: >>30187061

>>30181792
That would be Wishiwashi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 20:10:19 No.30187061 Report

Quoted By: >>30187534

>>30186781
Wishiwashi is crazy strong. It's definitely getting nerfed next gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 20:11:14 No.30187083 Report

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>>30181792
>not Comfey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 20:11:37 No.30187091 Report

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>>30181792
Easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 20:32:23 No.30187519 Report

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>>30182027
It evolves froma wimp into a tough motherfucker, it should have gotten guts or something. Emergency Exit is just renaming the weakness of his past self.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 20:33:05 No.30187534 Report

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>>30187061
Strong ingame, but I doubt it'll make any headway in competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 20:53:55 No.30188038 Report

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>>30186465
>+2 252+ Atk Golisopod Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Abomasnow: 99-117 (30.8 - 36.4%)
>252+ Atk Golisopod Liquidation vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Abomasnow: 105-123
>252+ Atk Golisopod Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Abomasnow: 50-59

If they can't force a switch on their first attack you outdamage with 2 +2 aqua jets than liquidation + aqua jet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 21:03:25 No.30188254 Report

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>>30182195

Every ability-swapping strategy in doubles is a shit gimmick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 21:08:16 No.30188377 Report

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That's not Bruxish

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 21:09:54 No.30188413 Report

Quoted By: >>30188614

>>30186030
why would i do that with shitbuge when i could use something like bisharp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 21:10:57 No.30188437 Report

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Tapu Lele, Tapu Fini, Celesteela, and Toxapex are probably the best of this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 21:18:56 No.30188614 Report

Quoted By: >>30190427

>>30188413
Bisharp isn't a pivot. Do you guys seriously not understand roles in singles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 22:27:36 No.30190427 Report

Quoted By: >>30190776

>>30188614
It's /vp/, the only roles as far as the majority are concerned are "fast physical sweeper" and "stall cancer"

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 22:29:58 No.30190478 Report

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 22:31:49 No.30190521 Report

Quoted By: >>30190818

>>30181792
Dhelmise is better, triple STAB is better than running away like a bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 22:37:14 No.30190664 Report

Quoted By:

>>30186524
>what's a lead
>what's a spinner
You're shit anon desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 22:39:05 No.30190713 Report

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>>30190478
>14 replies
It's an echo chamber of faggotory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 22:41:02 No.30190776 Report

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>>30190427
This. If you were expecting intelligent conversation about competitive, you should have head over to leddit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 22:42:20 No.30190818 Report

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>>30190521
>whynotboth.gif

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