>>30185693>>30185809you want enough speed to beat uninv base 70s which is like 200 neutral
jolly seems like a waste though since most of the things between there and its cap either run enough speed to guarantee it wont win or threaten it enough that staying in is a gamble regardless
things like defensive lando and washtom arent gonna be afraid of that thing, and dnite/gyara are gonna outspeed you every time
only thing that might be really worth eving for is heatran, and thats only if earth power starts seeing more standard use to specifically deal with both maro and toxapex
but then if a heatran is running coverage specifically for you its definitely gonna be running exactly enough speed to creep you at jolly max so thats probably irrelevant