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Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:01:40 No.30237140 View View Reply Original Report

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>finally get to the elite 4
>first fight is hala
>he uses full restores on bewear, twice
why do i have the feeling the elite 4 in sm will not be pushovers like in xy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:05:09 No.30237239 Report

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>>30237140
Really just depends on team composition, but the AI is better and as you saw, they get more items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:06:00 No.30237259 Report

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>>30237140
>why do i have the feeling the elite 4 in sm will not be pushovers like in xy

well for one thing they actually use 5 pokemon again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:07:46 No.30237307 Report

Quoted By: >>30237384

>>30237140
are you retarded? I'm playing OR as we speak and steven just dropped 3 restores on his metagross. this E4 aint shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:08:42 No.30237339 Report

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The E4 in SM use Z-moves as well as coverage moves. They are unironically the most difficult E4 in Pokemon history.
XY E4 was a fucking joke, even for Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:10:21 No.30237384 Report

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>>30237307
He didn't say anything about ORAS, just XY. The ORAS Elite 4 is hard, XY's is still a pushover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:13:55 No.30237454 Report

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>>30237140
The restores are fine and all but they only have one item in the entire party, a single z crystal... no lefties, no berries, nothing to make the fight strategic in any way, it really just came down to be just about as bad as xy in that respect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:14:23 No.30237466 Report

Quoted By: >>30238780

Hala rematch was the hardest fight in the entire game for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:15:58 No.30237494 Report

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It's essentially impossible to beat the first time you face it if you don't use any items to heal.

They're legit hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:16:35 No.30237508 Report

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Hala's Hariyama almost swept my entire team on the first playthrough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:18:07 No.30237538 Report

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>>30237140
>set up a few Quiver Dances on Ribombee
>sweep his entire team

To be fair, the AI isn't advanced enough to change strategies to account for this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:18:48 No.30237554 Report

Quoted By: >>30237623 >>30237628 >>30237637

My team is 47-48. How much of a bad time am I about to have?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:22:04 No.30237610 Report

Quoted By: >>30237678 >>30237685 >>30237720 >>30238554

>>30237140
Hala was the easiest as I found out you can exploit his AI.
>lead with mimikyu
>hariyama used fake out
>no effect
>swords dance
>he continuously uses fake out, won't stop
>SD until max attack
>OHKO everything with play rough
Was weird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:22:38 No.30237623 Report

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>>30237554
You're about 7-10 levels under. And it's hard with a properly leveled team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:22:39 No.30237628 Report

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>>30237554
Not much if you know what you're doing and have good team comp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:23:06 No.30237637 Report

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>>30237554
I had to grind to mid fifties and even then they weren't total push overs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:24:41 No.30237678 Report

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>>30237610
I also led with a Mimikyu against Hala and the Hariyama used Knock Off. One Swords Dance was enough to sweep anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:25:07 No.30237685 Report

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>>30237610
Mimikyu did this for me a lot ingame. The type immunities and the disguise ability really threw the AI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:25:11 No.30237689 Report

Quoted By: >>30238548 >>30239307

>>30237623
>>30237628
>>30237637
...It's been a long time since i've been both excited and terrified to fight a challenging e4.

Refresh hacks don't fail me now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:25:33 No.30237700 Report

Quoted By: >>30237771

>get dragondance off on Garydos
>he switches to poliwrath to abosrb aqua tail
Sure I swepted up anyway but it was smart enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:26:07 No.30237720 Report

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>>30237610
This
Ribombee lead with shield dust let me take his first fake out and set up
none of them are inherently hard even without exploiting their AI

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:26:32 No.30237731 Report

Quoted By: >>30237831

>>30237538
They should've givem Hala's hariyama whirlwind to prevent set ups

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:27:00 No.30237736 Report

Quoted By: >>30237757

>>30237140
Gotta say, I really enjoyed the elite four fights, definitely better than X and Y. Although, of the four, the battle with Kahili and her Skarmory caught me off guard. Didn't down it fast enough to avoid the sea of spikes it set up. She ended up giving me the most trouble surprisingly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:27:51 No.30237757 Report

Quoted By: >>30237934 >>30238096

>>30237736
>Mandibuzz used Roost
>Mandibuzz used Roost
>Mandibuzz used Roost

>Kahili used a Full Restore

AAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:28:26 No.30237771 Report

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>>30237700
I want to see more of this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:31:19 No.30237831 Report

Quoted By: >>30237901

>>30237731
whirlwind on braviary caught me off guard
Was spamming cosmic power with recover starmie then suddenly it switches me out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:35:01 No.30237901 Report

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>>30237771
there's a fine line, because otherwise it'll end up like input reading fighting game AI. But you're right, it could stand to be harder.

>>30237831
Even sneakstones caught me offguard since I was underlevelled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:36:32 No.30237934 Report

Quoted By: >>30237961 >>30238003 >>30238058

>>30237757
>Elite Four Kahili is about to send in Mandibuzz.
>Will you switch your pokemon?
>Yes
>Lycanroc (Day form)

No way in hell was I gonna let that bulky bird live longer than two turns. Nope. Hell no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:37:50 No.30237961 Report

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>>30237934
>using battle style switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:39:52 No.30238003 Report

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>>30237934
>using switch
Fucking nub

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:40:42 No.30238018 Report

Quoted By: >>30238075

>Throw out merciless Toxapex on Hala's Primeape
>Toxic it and hit it with Scald
>Anger Point activates
>Primeape's attack was maxed out!
>Sweeps 4 out of my 6 mons
Fuck me I wasn't expecting that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:40:49 No.30238022 Report

Quoted By: >>30238081 >>30238106 >>30238950

>>30237140
I beat them with only three pokemons, just saying. BW2 and Platinum are harder. Kukui is strong though. Dat stealth rock opening.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:43:04 No.30238058 Report

Quoted By: >>30238253

>>30237934
>Switch
mega casual

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:43:29 No.30238075 Report

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>>30238018
did hala use a full restore on it or something? i feel like toxic should have basically taken care of it before 4 mons got downed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:43:36 No.30238081 Report

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>>30238022
You are the absolute worst kind of Pokémon fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:44:12 No.30238096 Report

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>>30237757
Mandibuzz made the horrid mistake of giving my WishiWashi a Flatter boost. Wishiwashi broke out it pretty much the next turn and destroyed the rest team with ice beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:44:47 No.30238106 Report

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>>30238022
>overlevelled
Each to their own I guess.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:52:07 No.30238253 Report

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>>30238058
Yes I do have a mega form. Guess my ability Battle Switch gave it away huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:01:35 No.30238452 Report

Quoted By: >>30238490

>>30238106
Why? I think using 3 non legendary/pseudo-legendary pokemon again 26 is enough handicap. Kukui 's highest is also around 60 I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:03:32 No.30238490 Report

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>>30238452
You are about 7 levels higher than the E4 and still 5 higher than Kukui

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:06:07 No.30238548 Report

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>>30237689
The last fight also doesn't pull any punches. I had to take a huge risk on his last Pokemon, and I was on my last as well. I almost lost that fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:06:18 No.30238554 Report

Quoted By: >>30239595

>>30237610
I found that the AI appears to only know if a move is "supereffective" against you...Kahili skarmory would not stop using spikes against my A-Marowak despite the fact that they did nothing to it and I was setting up during the fact.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:11:58 No.30238659 Report

Quoted By: >>30238740

This is by far the worst team I've ever had in 20 years of playing this game, I'm actuslly embarrassed to post it.

But what do you think? Am I in a good place for a rematch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:16:17 No.30238740 Report

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>>30238659
The E4 rematches haven't improved all that much, sadly. Same Pokemon, they're all level 63, and the final battle is randomized between a select few trainers from levels 59 to 65, depending on the trainer. You'll be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:18:45 No.30238780 Report

Quoted By: >>30238808

>>30237466
I fought the elite four after I beat the game, so my my whole team is around level 60, I can't beat one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:18:51 No.30238783 Report

Quoted By: >>30239311

It's funny how for all its overbearing handholding and constant tutorials, SM was actually a step up in difficulty with the totem pokemon and elite four and champion and fucking Lusamine

In postgame I came very close to losing to Anabel in the motel too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:20:22 No.30238808 Report

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>>30238780
The best way to stay with the curve is to go through Poni Meadow, fight all the trainers there, and get to the Battle Tree. Then you should be okay level to rematch the League.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:25:04 No.30238885 Report

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>Lycanroc used Stealth Rock
Fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:29:15 No.30238950 Report

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>>30238022
>10 levels above like most of the e4 pokemon
>"game is too easy"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:31:33 No.30238982 Report

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>>30237140
in XY they each have 2 full restores while Diantha has 4

Its nothing new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:35:44 No.30239053 Report

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>>30237140
Wait until the champ starts using swapping strategies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:50:25 No.30239307 Report

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>>30237689
The deed is done...

Hala, olivia, and acerola weren't too bad. Kahili really pushed some buttons.

Kukui....good lord kukui and that fucking owl. No lie the only reason I won that was because I cheesed full restores and revives and let it brave bird itself to death since my pokemon kept holding on by one point to not make me sad...multiple fucking times.

levels 49-51 with only Primarina, Lycanroc night, and salazzle suriving in the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:50:38 No.30239311 Report

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>>30238783

Yeah, totems were a tease of what was to come: postgame dials everything up almost instantly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 09:01:55 No.30239492 Report

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Ok so...I'm to tapu koko. Can I beat it and bring lunala back postgame for the special dialogue?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 09:08:07 No.30239595 Report

Quoted By: >>30239630

>>30238554
Lusamine's Bewear also kept spamming baby doll eyes against my Decidueye.

I wonder if all it had was fighting and normal moves and couldnt figure out what else to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 09:10:25 No.30239630 Report

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>>30239595
the second fight bewear and mysmagius would not stop using pain split. Not sure if that was a subtle way of showing her pokemon are suffering or that the AI was dumb...i like to pretend it's the former.

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