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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:24:59 No.30270492 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30270538 >>30270565

What moveset would make him viable instead of just box a e s t h e t i c s?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:26:49 No.30270538 Report

Quoted By: >>30270641 >>30270662 >>30272330

>>30270492
Are an idiot?

max attack and speed
shell smash
earthquake
acrobatics
stone edge

enjoy your slaughter rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:27:38 No.30270565 Report

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>>30270492
Just make it so you don't have to sit through the fucking Shields Down animation at the start of a fight, or at least let it say Shields Up or something. Otherwise he's fucked, frail setup sweepers haven't been good for a long time. ShellSmash sweep is perfectly usable in Tree though.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:29:54 No.30270641 Report

Quoted By: >>30270757

>>30270538
This, except replace Stone Miss with Power Gem and you've got a mixed sweeper after Shell Smash boost.

Probably won't be salvageable for Rating battle, though. Then again I'm still training up a team and I have no idea what the on-cart meta is like.

At least having boxes full of konpeito looks kind of cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:30:33 No.30270662 Report

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>>30270538
roar has fake out+intimidate+WoW for VGC

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:31:52 No.30270697 Report

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>>30270662

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:34:05 No.30270757 Report

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>>30270641
Nah, power gem is a good move but on minior it's wasted. Minior is better for physical. Stone Edge has better power, physical, and the accuracy is decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:35:32 No.30270803 Report

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>>30270757
>Decent
Just put not good enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:36:49 No.30270839 Report

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>>30270803
lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:42:25 No.30271005 Report

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>>30270757
>Minior is better for physical
????

Also
>80% accuracy
>decent
I'll take 20% less power (plus the ability to wallbreak) over a 20% chance to miss any day. Everyone knows in practice 20% means missing three times in a row whenever it means the difference between a win and a loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:43:11 No.30271023 Report

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>>30270757
+2 252+ Atk Minior-Down Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 169-201 (50.5 - 60.1%) -- 86.7% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

+2 148 SpA Minior-Down Power Gem vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Skarmory: 265-313 (79.3 - 93.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:52:20 No.30271298 Report

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>>30270757
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/minior.3587225/#post-7090165

Here's a bunch of damage calcs. The miss chance isn't worth it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:52:56 No.30271311 Report

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>>30270757
You're so wrong it's not even funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:57:45 No.30271434 Report

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>>30271005
>>30271023
>>30271298
>>30271311
Okay but minior's special movepool is pathetic. Making it special is a waste. Okay I give you power gem but what else of relevance does it have for special?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:59:20 No.30271474 Report

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>>30271434
dazzling gleam, psychic, hp x

it's a mixed sweeper not a special or physical sweeper anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 06:59:23 No.30271475 Report

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>>30271434
anon that's all it needs for special... that's why it's called mixed plus you dont need to dump all your evs into speed since after a shell smash you outspeed mostly everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 07:00:06 No.30271495 Report

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>>30271434
Thats the only special thing you run on it

Minior @ White Herb
Ability: Shields Down
252 Atk/148 SpA/108 Spe
Naive Nature
- Shell Smash
- Acrobatics
- Power Gem
- Earthquake

Doesn't need more speed than that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 07:02:01 No.30271550 Report

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>>30271434
Dude he has fucking SHELL SMASH that's the only special attack he needs. Do you not understand the function of mixed attackers?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 07:34:49 No.30272330 Report

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>>30270538
I'm running something similar, but Explosion and Power Gem instead of Earthquake and Stone Miss.

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