>>30275771It IS confirmed to be only 3hit, so it's 60bp
pretty much same as priorty from Technician, which is fucking good.
Achieving the transformation is quite easy, unless you fight stallfags. Greninja still shitting on a lot of things
After transforming, with extraesense not even Toxapex can wall it
252 SpA Life Orb Ash-Greninja Extrasensory vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Toxapex: 161-190 (52.9 - 62.5%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
And even before transforming, with Extra-sense it can two-shot mixed Toxapex.
252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Extrasensory vs. 252 HP / 123 SpD Toxapex: 70-83 (44.5 - 52.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Water-Shuriken is more than enough to dent pretty much anything weak to water after transforming.
252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Water Shuriken (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Hippowdon: 288-351 (68.5 - 83.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Ash-Greninja Water Shuriken (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Heatran: 219-264 (56.7 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Non-Stabs are close to protean Greninja, which is not bad at all while being faster
right now it's pretty much a better XY meta Greninja, which is good
move tutors will give it even more coverage and will make it as good as Protean, because it could go past pink blobs with 145 attack. Hell, it got a fucking good as fuck Priority to hit really, really fucking hard. only 7% difference.
252 SpA Life Orb Ash-Greninja Water Shuriken (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 144-174 (35.6 - 43%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 171-202 (42.3 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
People who say Ash-Greninja is shit are dumb. it's harder than protean to use, that's for sure, but as a late game cleaner it's fucking amazingly good
Also it's ingame animations are fucking cool as fuck.
>use acrobatics ingame>it's use the fuma shuriken as two swords and literally go omni-slash 
