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Battle Tree Thread

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 18:57:39 No.30285460 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30285604 >>30285992 >>30286299 >>30286804

Post teams
Post tips
Post streaks
Etc.

Pelipper/Politoed - Drizzle
Xurkitree/Tapu Koko with Thunder
Lanturn with Volt Absorb
Other Ultra Beasts like Kartana and Buzzswole

Wrecks shop

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:02:39 No.30285604 Report

Quoted By: >>30285753 >>30285793 >>30286211

>>30285460
Just run life orb Pheromosa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:02:57 No.30285611 Report

Quoted By: >>30285701 >>30285753 >>30285840

Mimikyu@Normalium Z
252 att/spd
Splash
Shadow Sneak
Leech Life
Play Rough

Kartana@Life Orb
252 att/spd
Leaf Blade
Smart Strike
Air Slash
[Forgot]

The ONLY things that have managed to break through Mimikyu are Hypnosis spammers and since the RNG is never in your favor it really fucks you over. Kartana usually comes in clutch in that case but something like say a Darmanitan will outspeed you regardless.

I really need a third member besides Tapu Koko, he's not working.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:06:08 No.30285701 Report

Quoted By: >>30285755

>>30285611
>air slash kartana

what exactly is wrong with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:07:43 No.30285753 Report

Quoted By: >>30285823

>>30285604
but I have Sun anon

>>30285611
better off running an SD set on Mimi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:07:46 No.30285755 Report

Quoted By: >>30285809

>>30285701
Nothing, I just haven't leveled it up to Psycho Cut yet and don't care enough to do so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:08:51 No.30285793 Report

Quoted By: >>30285852 >>30292430 >>30292879

>>30285604
Nah focus sach pheramosa is more reliable.

Has anyone made it to 50 streak yet? I got cucked at like match 47

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:09:20 No.30285809 Report

Quoted By: >>30285867

>>30285755
>what are heart scales

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:09:48 No.30285823 Report

Quoted By: >>30285873 >>30288791

>>30285753
Z-Splash>Swords Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:10:12 No.30285840 Report

Quoted By: >>30285948 >>30286120

>>30285611
>Normalium Z
>Splash
For what purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:10:27 No.30285852 Report

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>>30285793
I am so shit at non-story fights, I didn't even think of Focus Sash, time to un-box Pheramosa and try Battle Tree again.
Yes, I am completely retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:10:36 No.30285857 Report

Quoted By: >>30285892 >>30285969 >>30286380

Teams you say?

Guzma
>Pinsir(M)
>Honchkrow
>Toxipex
>Bisharp
>Toxicroak
>Golisopod
>Liepard

Wally
>Garchomp(M)
>Altaria(M)
>Gallade(M)
>Magnezone

Colress
>Metagross(M)
>Porygon 2
>Porygon-Z
>Electrode
>Klinklang
>A-Muk
>Magnezone

Anabel (Not 100% sure if this is all of them)
>Lucario(M)
>Latios(M)
>Alakazam
>Raikou
>Entei
>Snorlax

Mallow
>Sceptile(M)
>Lurantis
>Tsareena
>Toucannon
>Talonflame
>Comfey
>Trevenant

Cynthia
>Lucario(M)
>Garchomp(M)
>Milotic
>Spiritomb
>Togekiss

Grimsley
>Tyranitar(M)
>Absol(M)
>Houndoom(M)
>Sharpedo
>Liepard
>Bisharp
>Drapion
>Scrafty

Dexio
>Slowbro(M)
>Passimian
>A-Ninetales
>Turtonator
>Braviary
>Whimsicott
>Espeon

Red
>Blastoise(M)
>Charizard(M X/Y)
>Venusaur(M)
>Snorlax
>Lapras

Blue
>Alakazam(M)
>Pidgeot(M)
>Gyarados(M)
>Tyranitar(M)
>Aerodactyl(M)
>Arcanine
>Rhyperior
>Machamp
>Exeggutor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:11:06 No.30285866 Report

Quoted By: >>30285969

What's the best nature for Pheromosa? Naughty?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:11:07 No.30285867 Report

Quoted By: >>30285929

>>30285809
Either way it boils down to me being a lazy faggot, what's it to ya?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:11:25 No.30285873 Report

Quoted By: >>30285915

>>30285823
SD + life orb does more damage than z-splash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:11:49 No.30285892 Report

Quoted By:

>>30285857
Look at all those Mega's unobtainable by the player

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:12:27 No.30285915 Report

Quoted By: >>30285969

>>30285873
What is the Life Orb multiplier?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:12:50 No.30285929 Report

Quoted By: >>30285953

>>30285867
>not lazy enough to EV train or go to battle tree
>too lazy to fly to a restaurant and order a Special Z-meal to get 4-8 scales

what did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:13:39 No.30285948 Report

Quoted By:

>>30285840
Z-Splash drastically raises your attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:13:45 No.30285953 Report

Quoted By: >>30286007

>>30285929
A better question is why the fuck do you care, autist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:14:10 No.30285969 Report

Quoted By: >>30286444

>>30285866
Naive

>>30285857
What about Sina? You have Dexio, but not Sina

Aren't the FWG trial captains there too?

>>30285915
1.3x

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:14:45 No.30285992 Report

Quoted By:

>>30285460
>Go, Xurkitree!
>[opponent] sent out Liepard!
>The opposing Liepard used Snatch!
>Xurkitree used Tail Glow!
>The opposing Liepard stole Xurkitree's Tail Glow!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:15:11 No.30286007 Report

Quoted By: >>30286078 >>30286128

>>30285953
>try to help someone out with their shit set and stup0id decisions
>get this response

i don't care, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:16:02 No.30286037 Report

Quoted By: >>30286135 >>30286179

Why does everyone run Shadow Sneak? The only desirable thing about it is priority which you don't need with decent speed, and when you do need it it's not going to do you much help anyways. Someone explain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:17:09 No.30286078 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286007
>anon too lazy to change single move
>shit set
Just drop this already kiddo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:18:20 No.30286120 Report

Quoted By: >>30286293

>>30285840
He's one of those le +3 without an item is better than +2 and a life orb memers.

Anyways, here are my 50 streak lineups

Singles:
Golisopod @ Leftovers, bulky attacker spread
First Impression
Aqua Jet
Sucker Punch
Leech Life

Nihilego @ Life Orb, fast special attacker spread
Sludge Wave
Power Gem
Dazzling Gleam
Thunderbolt

Kartana @ Fightium Z, fast attacker spread
Smart Strike
Leaf Blade
Sacred Sword
Swords Dance

Pretty straightforward, chip with Golisopod, when he emergency exits bring in whichever UB is more appropriate and get your free beast boost, then power through the enemy team. Made it to 80 wins before getting wrecked.

Doubles:
Oranguru @ Mental Herb, bulky trick room spread
Ability: Inner Focus
Trick Room
Instruct
Protect
Psyshock

Torkoal @ charcoal, trick room special attacker spread
Ability: Drought
Eruption
Heat Wave
Protect
Solar Beam

Hariyama @ flame orb, trick room attacker spread
Ability: Guts
Fake Out
Knock Off
Close Combat
Wide Guard

Celesteela @ leftovers, trick room special attacker spread
Flamethrower
Flash Cannon
Grass Knot
Protect

Lost on battle 58 to a fucking rain support greninja

Multi battle is my next challenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:18:32 No.30286128 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286007
I changed it just for you ;)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:18:43 No.30286135 Report

Quoted By: >>30286197

>>30286037
>the only desirable thing is this very, incredibly desirable thing!
Sounds like you understand already

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:19:42 No.30286179 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286037
>asking why people use a STAB priority move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:20:19 No.30286197 Report

Quoted By: >>30286255

>>30286135
>>>the only desirable thing is this very, incredibly desirable thing which isn't incredibly desirable at all!
Look, all I'm asking for is situations where 40bp Shadow Sneak has saved you where nothing else would have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:20:41 No.30286211 Report

Quoted By:

>>30285604

What build on a naive set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:21:54 No.30286255 Report

Quoted By: >>30286510

>>30286197
when you are slower than the opposing pokemon and it is weak enough to be killed by your 40 bp shadow sneak

this is very intuitive and there is absolutely nothing else to explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:22:49 No.30286293 Report

Quoted By: >>30286611

>>30286120
Wouldn't lava plume be better than heatwave on torkoal? It's slightly less powerful but 100% accuracy and 20% higher chance of burn seems more useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:23:05 No.30286299 Report

Quoted By:

>>30285460
I only did 20 Single Battles with this team:

Nihilego @ Life Orb
252 SpA / 252 Spe, Timid
Sludge Bomb
Stealth Rock
Power Gem
Thunderbolt

Xurkitree @ Psychium Z
252 SpA / 252 Spe, Timid
Hypnosis
Dazzling Gleam
Thunderbolt
Tail Glow

Then either Buzzwole or Kartana to finish off the team:

Buzzwole @ Leftovers
Can't remember EV spread but it's enough to max HP and even out Atk and Def, while Atk is slightly higher for Beast Boost. Adamant
Hammer Arm
Ice Punch
Leech Life
Bulk Up

Kartana @ Scope Lens
252 Atk / 252 Spe, Jolly
Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
Sacred Sword
Night Slash

It could be so much better, I don't even know what their IVs are but I figure just EV training will suffice for now. I think I'd wait 'til Bank to truly tackle the Tree so for now I just wanted to get the started Mega Stones and to maybe clear the regular streaks prior to the Super streaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:23:34 No.30286317 Report

Quoted By: >>30286366 >>30286415 >>30286471 >>30287934

I'm a noob to battle facilities. I know what evs, ivs, natures, and egg moves are and I can breed for Pokemon I need. Where do I start with teambuilding? Is there a particular Pokemon good for noobs to use to get used to playing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:24:55 No.30286366 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286317
Garchomp, Mega Lucario, Stingulor, Mega Kangaskhan and Nihilego are straightforward enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:25:17 No.30286380 Report

Quoted By: >>30286446 >>30286506

>>30285857
So I take it that these trainers have a pool of Pokemon to choose from then only choose a few (three or four) to actually use in battle right?

I'm kinda glad to see Blue has some Pokemon from his FR/LG rematch and his HGSS rematch team (namely Tyranitar and Rhyperior).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:26:05 No.30286415 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286317

I cleaned up with this Dragonite in maison singles. I streak of 100 with him cleaning most of it.

Dragonite@Lum Berry
Adamant
252 atk/6 def/252 speed

Dragon Dance
Outrage (confusion nerf helps here)
Earthquake
Fire Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:26:54 No.30286444 Report

Quoted By: >>30286481 >>30286722

>>30285969
>What about Sina? You have Dexio, but not Sina
I can't find the Sun exclusive ones while playing Moon. So I don't know the teams of Plumeria, Kiawe or Sina.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:26:56 No.30286446 Report

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>>30286380
that's exactly how it worked in gen 5, so yes i'd wager so

it's not like i can confirm because this place pushes your shit in from the get go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:27:37 No.30286471 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286317
I'd second garchomp for sure. Also something like xurkitree or phermosa would be easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:27:58 No.30286481 Report

Quoted By: >>30286572

>>30286444
Wait, Plumeria is a version exclusive too? I thought it was just Sina and Dexio and Kiawe and Mallow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:28:49 No.30286506 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286380
That's right. When I fought red he only ran venasaur, snorlax, and lapras

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:28:52 No.30286510 Report

Quoted By: >>30286624

>>30286255
I'm not arguing the utility of Shadow Sneak, but with Mimikyu and all of his coverage options or lack thereof it seems like a wasted slot. All the Pokémon I've ever had to use Shadow Sneak against in the Battle Tree are Pokémon who'd fuck me up regardless. My issue simply boils down to the fact it's been more of a hindrance than help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:30:36 No.30286572 Report

Quoted By: >>30286617

>>30286481
I saw someone mention her having an M-Gengar in the tree and she is in the datamine text.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:31:44 No.30286611 Report

Quoted By: >>30287476

>>30286293

It also hits Oranguru, which doesn't run telepathy because inner focus is more important to stop fake outs from stopping TR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:31:48 No.30286617 Report

Quoted By: >>30286805

>>30286572
Where is the datamine text?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:32:07 No.30286624 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286510
>Sweeper used attack
>It broke Mimikyu's Disguise
>Mimikyu used attack
>Sweeper survives with about a third health
>Mimikyu used Shadow Sneak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:34:15 No.30286722 Report

Quoted By: >>30286805

>>30286444
Sunfag here

Plumeria has Crobat, Gengar, Salazzle, can carry mega on Gengar

Kiawe has Marowak A, Talonflame, Kangaskhan, Salazzle and Arcanine Kanga can be a mega.

Sina has an ice team with Abomasnow, Glaceon, Avalugg and some other shit I can't remember, Abomasnow is her mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:34:15 No.30286724 Report

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Gastrodon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Clear Smog/Sludge Wave
- Scald
Goes in any team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:36:04 No.30286804 Report

Quoted By:

>>30285460
Tapu Koko
Nihilego
Buzzswole
Ash Greninja
Snorlax
Silvally

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:36:04 No.30286805 Report

Quoted By: >>30286896

>>30286722
I'd assume they get a full team of 7 like the others. Avalugg on Sina is a surpise, maybe I missed one of Dexio's.

>>30286617
This one
https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/gametext.txt
and this one is main story stuff
https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/storytext.txt

If Sina was one of the Masked Heroes, who could the other one have been?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:37:53 No.30286890 Report

Quoted By:

I want to use A-Muk in as many scenarios possible. Recommend a set? Poison Touch shenanigans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:38:01 No.30286896 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286805
I bet the maxed heroes were just their signature mons

maybe in X, it was Sina and Obama and in Y is was Dexio and Alakazam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:47:28 No.30287200 Report

Quoted By:

>Rest Minimize Muk
Fuck me, should've had a Taunt user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 19:56:05 No.30287476 Report

Quoted By:

>>30286611
Ah didn't see that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 20:10:37 No.30287934 Report

Quoted By: >>30288085

>>30286317
Battle facilities are nothing like Battlespot. Enemy trainers will use sets no sane player would because they influence the rng to suit them and fuck you over. A safe rule of thumb is to assume an enemy move has 20-30% more accuracy then normal while yours have the same amount taken away. Their crit chance is also boosted. Their teams will be built specifically to counter yours, becoming better the higher you go, which is why the facility bosses will actually feel easier than normal trainers as they have a set list of pokemon. As you go higher the game will factor in your move choice before making its own. Ultra beasts are fairly good as the ai doesn't quite understand beast boost.

High accuracy should be a factor in move choice, and your team needs to be well balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 20:14:34 No.30288085 Report

Quoted By: >>30288504

>>30287934
It's not so much that they have higher accuracy or Crit chance, but it's more so that the odds will eventually be stacked against you when you're fighting hundreds and hundreds of trainers. Eventually opposing trainers will have 10% Freeze chances working or you'll miss a 95% Acc move. Simply because there's a chance of it happening, and with so many battles and so many chances for something to go wrong, it's bound to happen.

That said, I believe the idea in them choosing the right teams to screw you over. One time I had a team with a few Dragon type Pokemon and all I faced were Ice and Steel types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 20:25:46 No.30288504 Report

Quoted By:

>>30288085
They also use bright powder among other banned tactics.
But I think specific pokemon always have the same set. So you should be able to know before hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 20:28:57 No.30288611 Report

Quoted By: >>30288650 >>30288692

Neat, someone on smogon finally posted the battle tree teams.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D7T0jCHBkDppjTB0_rJyK0houk8zE3wLmZ1DlVXEkXg/edit#gid=0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 20:30:00 No.30288650 Report

Quoted By:

>>30288611
*sets for individual pokemon, not teams

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 20:31:35 No.30288692 Report

Quoted By:

>>30288611
thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 20:34:22 No.30288791 Report

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>>30285823
Unless another Pokemon runs Life Orb on your Team, feel free to fuck off with the Z-splash meme anytime now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 20:47:21 No.30289268 Report

Quoted By: >>30289367

How can I beat focus sash users? I've been using:

Smeargle @ focus sash
Ability: Moody
Baton Pass
Shell Smash
Spore
Protect

Mimikyu @ Ghostium Z
Wood hammer
Swords Dance
Play Rough
Shadow Sneak

Mega Salamence
Return
Earthquake
Roost
Dragon Dance

Basically if my Mimikyu gets its disguise broken and then hit it dies and I'm left with Salamence+Smeargle with no attacks. Farthest I got was 43 wins in super singles, I guess I could give my Smeargle Ice Shard or something? I struggle with grass type leads too but switching to Salamence usually fixes it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 20:50:24 No.30289367 Report

Quoted By:

>>30289268
Skill Link user? Also, mimikyu will probably outspeed most things after +2 speed, so maybe replace shadwo sneak with shawdow claw and give it a focus sash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 21:39:40 No.30290864 Report

Quoted By: >>30290951

am i going to regret training crabominable up from an egg if i spend the time getting him to 50+ and try him out in the battle tree?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 21:42:23 No.30290951 Report

Quoted By: >>30291118

>>30290864
Yes, he's a shitmon. Just use meme beasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 21:47:27 No.30291118 Report

Quoted By:

>>30290951
his 3d model looks so cool though.
ok whatever, maybe i'll do it eventually but i'll go for something else for now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 21:53:02 No.30291275 Report

Quoted By:

Any Battle Tree video codes? I'm not there yet but I'd like to see some.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 21:59:41 No.30291464 Report

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http://pastebin.com/V1UXmEPQ

A pretty straightforward team that actually just focused on attacking.

Got 49 win-streaks until I lost to Blue because he just Crits my Pokemon and stupid me doesn't know his coverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 22:32:05 No.30292430 Report

Quoted By:

>>30285793
Made it to 50 with a team of Dragonite, Aegislash, and Mega Kangaskhan. Almost got fucked at round 49 because this guy had Suicune and a Mega Kangaskhan of his own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 22:45:56 No.30292879 Report

Quoted By:

>>30285793
Made it to the 50th battle in Super Double Battles. Gotta unlock that Passionate Battle Style Pose.

Did it with

M-Salamence
Celesteela @ AV
Xurkitree @ C. Scarf
Kartana @ Sash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 23:16:05 No.30293764 Report

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