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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:14:18 No.30317848 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30317949 >>30318353 >>30318937 >>30319021 >>30319124

>Gen 1: 5 Legendaries
>Gen 2: 6 Legendaries
>Gen 3: 10 Legendaries
>Gen 4: 14 Legendaries
>Gen 5: 12 Legendaries
>Gen 6: 6 Legendaries

>Gen 7: 19 Legendaries

Literally why is this allowed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:19:46 No.30317949 Report

Quoted By: >>30318238 >>30318261 >>30318470

>>30317848
UBs aren't legendaries. Stop being dumb anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:32:36 No.30318238 Report

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>>30317949
In-game data they belong to the Sub-Legendaries, like Articuno, Raikou, Regirock, Uxie, Cobalion, Tornadus, and even Type: Null and Silvally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:34:14 No.30318261 Report

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>>30317949
Even Silvally is a fucking legendary. Stop being faggot anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:38:58 No.30318353 Report

Quoted By: >>30319430

>>30317848
"Legendaries" don't really have any meaning any more, especially since they have evolutions now. They're just a term for significant hard to catch rare Pokémon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:42:34 No.30318449 Report

Quoted By: >>30318517

>clumping together standard legendaries, sublegendaries and mythicals

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:43:31 No.30318470 Report

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>>30317949
Except they are.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:45:04 No.30318517 Report

Quoted By: >>30318690 >>30319031

>>30318449
>muh categories

You can only get one of each, and they're hailed as god-like entities in-game. They're fucking legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:51:15 No.30318645 Report

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SM only has 5 legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:53:22 No.30318690 Report

Quoted By: >>30318727

>>30318517
So UBs aren't legendaries, and neither is Type:Null.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:54:53 No.30318727 Report

Quoted By: >>30318780 >>30318795 >>30318839

>>30318690

You only get one type null, and they were hyped to be God killers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:57:37 No.30318780 Report

Quoted By: >>30318892

>>30318727
yeah but three of them exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:58:16 No.30318795 Report

Quoted By: >>30318872

>>30318727
If Type: Null was supposed to be an unique legendary, Gladion wouldn't canonically have a Silvally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 17:59:58 No.30318839 Report

Quoted By: >>30318879 >>30318959

>>30318727
I'd put Null at the same level of Genesect. I feel like legendaries have to be the only one of its kind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:01:07 No.30318872 Report

Quoted By: >>30318895

>>30318795
Just like N doesn't have one of the Tai dragons, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:01:26 No.30318879 Report

Quoted By: >>30318967

>>30318839

Then Lugia isn't a legendary.

Mewtwo isn't a legendary.

The DPPT Cover trio aren't legendaries.

The cosmog line aren't legendaries.

etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:02:00 No.30318892 Report

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>>30318780
And there are herds of latias, yet they're considered legendary.
You're next line is ">believing the pokedex"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:02:06 No.30318895 Report

Quoted By: >>30318991

>>30318872
In which case you get the other one, idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:03:38 No.30318937 Report

Quoted By: >>30319000 >>30319007

>>30317848
>>Gen 4: 14 Legendaries
you what mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:04:36 No.30318959 Report

Quoted By: >>30319188

>>30318839
>I feel like legendaries have to be the only one of its kind.
Then that gets rid of like 90% of legendaries, including box legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:04:52 No.30318967 Report

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>>30318879
>The cosmog line aren't legendaries.
I mean they kind of aren't. They're just normal mons from Ultra Space, which happen to be revered by ancient Alolans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:05:41 No.30318991 Report

Quoted By: >>30319049

>>30318895
Just like you get the other type like null

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:05:53 No.30319000 Report

Quoted By: >>30319007 >>30319074

>>30318937
Unless you're some pedant that goes "but mythicals aren't legendaries!" then it's 14

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:06:09 No.30319007 Report

Quoted By: >>30319074

>>30318937
>>30319000
13 if you don't count Phione.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:06:51 No.30319021 Report

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>>30317848
Only 3 in gen 1. Mew and mew2 arent legendaries and only zapados is in gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:07:10 No.30319031 Report

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>>30318517
But you can get two Sogaleo/Laluuna and most of the Ultra Beasts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:07:56 No.30319049 Report

Quoted By: >>30319091

>>30318991
Then it's not unique. Face it, Type: Null is never going to be a legendary anywhere besides your retarded headcanon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:08:51 No.30319074 Report

Quoted By: >>30319110

>>30319000
>>30319007
I didn't remember them having that much and I just looked up the DP dex isntead of the Pt dex.

Who the fuck likes Heatran anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:09:27 No.30319091 Report

Quoted By: >>30319146

>>30319049
And the game's data. The game literally has internal lists of "Legendary Pokemon", "Mythical Pokemon", and "Sublegendary Pokemon".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:09:31 No.30319092 Report

Quoted By: >>30319742

The only meaningful consideration for what is and isn't legendary mechanically is what is allowed in the Battle Tower/Maison/Tree. Anything beyond that is semantics that change from game to game.

Going based off what is allowed in the Battle tree, the following are legendary

Gen 1
- Mewtwo
- Mew

Gen 2
- Lugia
- Ho-oh
- Celebi

Gen 3
- Kyogre
- Groudon
- Rayquaza
- Jirachi
- Deoxys

Gen 4
- Dialga
- Palkia
- Giratina
- Phione
- Manaphy
- Darkrai
- Shaymin
- Arceus

Gen 5
- Victini
- Reshiram
- Zekrom
- Kyurem
- Keldeo
- Meloetta
- Genesect

Gen 6
- Xerneas
- Yveltal
- Zygarde
- Diancie
- Hoopa
- Volcanion

Gen 7
- Cosmog
- Cosmoem
- Solgaleo
- Lunala
- Necrozma
- Magearna
- Marshadow

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:10:12 No.30319110 Report

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>>30319074
Smogonfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:10:26 No.30319118 Report

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The UBs aren't unique in the game, so they aren't legendaries.

But :

If you count UBs, Cosmog and Cosmoem as legendaries : 18 legendaries
If you count UBs as legendaries but not Cosmog and Cosmoem : 16 legendaries
If you count Cosmog and Cosmoem as legendaries but not UBs : 11 legendaries
If you don't count them as legendaries : 9 legendaries

UBs and Solgaleo/Lunala pre-evolutions make it hard to know the number of legendaries in this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:10:46 No.30319124 Report

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>>30317848
>implying being legendary means anything if they are fucking shit in-battle even in the game they debut in
>legendary birds
>legendary dogs that isn't suicune
>regis
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:12:00 No.30319146 Report

Quoted By: >>30319162 >>30319191

>>30319091
>sublegendary
Not a legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:13:03 No.30319162 Report

Quoted By: >>30319250

>>30319146
Then yeah, if you want to get technical, it's not a legendary. Neither is Articuno or Registeel.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:14:41 No.30319188 Report

Quoted By: >>30319199

>>30318959
That is for the best, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:14:48 No.30319191 Report

Quoted By: >>30319250

>>30319146
I guess the Legendary Birds aren't legendaries then.

Somm (3282-2427-1399)

Somm (3282-2427-1399) Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:14:58 No.30319196 Report

Quoted By: >>30319263 >>30319319

I think it really comes down to personal opinion. Tapus/UBs aren't considered legendaries by the game code, but i personally consider them legendaries because 1. their BST is above 'normal' pokemon, with some exceptions, 2. There's a limited number in each game, and 3. you can't breed more of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:15:11 No.30319199 Report

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>>30319188
As long as we keep everything from gen 3 and most of the things from gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:17:28 No.30319235 Report

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Only region shit like Type: Null and the UBs are called legendaries in the game is because it';s a new feature and GF went overboard with the assignments for it. Now thanks to that we're going to have a bunch of autistic 'hurr Type: Null is a legendary' faggots until people get bored of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:17:47 No.30319245 Report

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Aren't legendaries considered legendary because they're rarely seen?

Even though apparently they're seen a lot. In all honesty I think the only actual legendary in Sun and Moon would be Necrozma

I don't consider mewtwo, magearna, or Type:Null to be legendary since they were created by Humanity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:18:24 No.30319250 Report

Quoted By: >>30319467

>>30319162
>>30319191
>there's only one of each
Still more of a legendary than Type: Null.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:18:52 No.30319263 Report

Quoted By: >>30319288 >>30319401

>>30319196
https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/799322666079551488
Sub legendaries list by in-game code
shiggy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:19:50 No.30319288 Report

Quoted By: >>30319461

>>30319263
i do like the top kek quartet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:20:55 No.30319319 Report

Quoted By: >>30319340 >>30319357

>>30319196
Sun and Moon finally gave us official terms for the two different tiers of legendaries that have been around forever. The big ones like Mewtwo and Lugia are "legendary" and the ones like Cobalion and Regirock are "sublegendary". The Tapus and UBs are considered the later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:22:22 No.30319340 Report

Quoted By: >>30319450

>>30319319
>this somehow justifies them plaguing literally 25% of the new Pokedex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:23:06 No.30319357 Report

Quoted By: >>30319399 >>30319443

>>30319319
People are still going to refer to them as box legends and legends, if not all just legends.

No one cares about GF's autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:24:47 No.30319399 Report

Quoted By: >>30319431

>>30319357
They've finally pushed "Mythical" enough that people have been using it lately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:24:55 No.30319401 Report

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>>30319263
>giant ancient braille face creature which pulls continents is a sub-legendary.
>phione is a legendary
fuckin' bullshit list if you ask me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:26:15 No.30319430 Report

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>>30318353
Well, or, you know, because they are legendary, as in spoken of in legends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:26:17 No.30319431 Report

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>>30319399
and that just means event-exclusive mons righ?

That's an even stupider distinction than "sublegendary", and all "mythicals" ARE legendaries anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:27:04 No.30319443 Report

Quoted By: >>30319488

>>30319357
They care enough to insist that fucking Type: Null is a legendary apparently.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:27:31 No.30319450 Report

Quoted By: >>30319574

>>30319340
>plaguing
really? how is it a problem that there's more pokemon??

>25%
Don't over-exaggerate, it makes you look retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:27:49 No.30319461 Report

Quoted By: >>30319488

>>30319288
top lel, top kuck, top bull

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:27:55 No.30319467 Report

Quoted By: >>30319516 >>30319739

>>30319250
>if you can only catch one in the game it means only one canonically exists

So you think the wild Articuno in Kanto, Sinnoh, and Kalos, and the trainer-owned Articuno in Orre, are all the same Articuno, which is the only one that exists in the universe? And you think Solgaleo and Lunala, which are officially confirmed to be legendary, are in fact not legendary because there are two per game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:28:47 No.30319488 Report

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>>30319461
>top kuck
>not top kek

>>30319443
Seems as much of a legendary as mewtwo or genesect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:29:02 No.30319499 Report

Quoted By: >>30319551 >>30319583 >>30319589

If they'd done this sub-legendary thing in gen 4 Rotom would be one because you can only get one per game and it's a fixed encounter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:29:38 No.30319516 Report

Quoted By: >>30319589

>>30319467
>Two per game
I hope you're talking about a single solga and a single luna not two of each

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:31:35 No.30319551 Report

Quoted By: >>30319595

>>30319499
Can't remember if you could breed Rotom in gen 4, but if you could you were getting more than 1 per game.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:32:26 No.30319574 Report

Quoted By: >>30319693 >>30319900

>>30319450
>80 new Pokemon
>19 of them are legends/mythicals/whatthefuckever
>over-exaggerate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:33:00 No.30319583 Report

Quoted By: >>30319641

>>30319499
...you could only get 1 eevee in gen1

that's not the definition of a legend

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:33:23 No.30319589 Report

Quoted By: >>30319641

>>30319499
You can breed Rotom though, it's no different from Sudowoodo in gen 2.

>>30319516
Nope, you get a second Cosmog. Can't evolve it into the other legendary unless you trade it to the opposite game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:33:31 No.30319595 Report

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>>30319551
You can breed Phione too, still apparently a legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:35:25 No.30319641 Report

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>>30319589
Good point. Sudowoodo would have been a sublegendary as well if it were a thing in gen 2.

>>30319583
That's my point. GF is just being retarded about assigning the label to fucking everything that isn't a completely normal capture in this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:37:56 No.30319693 Report

Quoted By: >>30319727

>>30319574
>this somehow justifies them plaguing literally 25% of the new Pokedex
>New Pokedex
>80 new pokemon
>Thinks all those pokemon are the only ones in the game
>19 out of 300+ is 25% apparently

Wow you really are retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:39:35 No.30319727 Report

Quoted By: >>30319791

>>30319693
>61 new Pokemon, almost as low as Kalos
>the rest are legends, making up 25% of the Pokedex
>lol it's okay you can catch Ledyba and Pichu and shit

Reading comprehension is hard, I know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:40:17 No.30319739 Report

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>>30319467
The former, yes. It's less complicated than trying to retardedly force Type: Null as a legendary. As for the latter, I don't consider Cosmog and Cosmoem legendaries, and you only get one on it's fully evolved form so whether you turn the second Cosmog into another Solgaleo/Lunala or not isn't relevant anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:40:21 No.30319742 Report

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>>30319092
Correct answer.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:42:48 No.30319791 Report

Quoted By: >>30319856

>>30319727
>New Pokedex
>Includes previous gen pokemon

>H-hundreds of pokemon don't count in a new pokedex!!
>In actuality, Pokedexes only contain less than 100 pokemon because it's a new generation!
You're not making your case any better by saying this.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:46:59 No.30319856 Report

Quoted By: >>30319900 >>30319929

>>30319791
Congratulations on being the greatest argument for partial-birth abortions, by the way.

Look at Unova. 156 new Pokemon. 12 of then are legends, sure, but you have 144 new Pokemon to find in the wild and play with.

Now look at Kalos. 71 new Pokemon this time, but only 6 are legendaries, giving 65 new Pokemon.

Alola only has 61 new Pokemon discounting the 19 legendaries.

And you're somehow okay with this. End your life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:49:10 No.30319900 Report

Quoted By: >>30319929

>>30319574
>>30319856
>All the pokemon in the regional pokedex
>Kanto – 87
>Johto – 30
>Hoenn – 33
>Sinnoh – 29
>Unova – 28
>Kalos – 14
>Alola - 80
Let's add all of these together.. that makes.. 301 pokemon, including the "legendaries" and etc from Alola.

Let's take 25% from 301.. That makes about 75 pokemon to make 25%.

19 is nowhere near 75, thus 19 pokemon is not 25% of 301 pokemon in the NEW pokedex.

Get your fat retardation out of here, you said in the new pokedex, not out of the new pokemon. Mind your wording next time to look less like an idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:50:40 No.30319929 Report

Quoted By: >>30319950

>>30319900
>>30319856
You are both horribly retarded and I hope you feel bad about yourselves.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:51:39 No.30319950 Report

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>>30319929

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