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Hyper Training

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:42:23 No.30422325 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>30422597 >>30422602 >>30422626 >>30422697 >>30422779 >>30423411 >>30423919 >>30424075 >>30425661 >>30425727

>The thing with Hyper Training is that the boost is superficial. The actual IVs of the Pokémon do not get increased, merely they give the appearance of having maximum.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT?

You have to do all that grinding to get your Pokemon to have perfect IVs and its not even real? Does that mean if I trade them or send them up to the next generation their IVs will be reverted back to their natural state?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:48:10 No.30422505 Report

Quoted By: >>30422561 >>30422602 >>30422686 >>30425727

Yeah, as soon as I read that bullshit I lol'd and decided not to bother whoring after gold bottlecaps. What the fuck is the point of perfect IV pokemon you can't even breed for more? Garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:50:21 No.30422561 Report

Quoted By: >>30422602 >>30422745 >>30422761

>>30422505
Why did they even add this feature if they are going to half ass it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:51:54 No.30422597 Report

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>>30422325
Later generations will likely have a similar system, but given Game Freaks track record on removing cool features, I would not be suprised if they did remove it.

However, focus on now. It's a brand new generation. Now you can easily have legendaries with perfect stats or pokemon with perfect stats and the Hidden Power of your choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:52:07 No.30422602 Report

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>>30422325
>>30422505
>>30422561
>Not wanting 6IV HP fighting.
Hope you enjoy missing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:52:58 No.30422626 Report

Quoted By: >>30422690

>>30422325
Yet it boosts that stat, so if you transfer it the stat change will likely remain there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:54:14 No.30422660 Report

Quoted By: >>30422886

It would have made more sense if the aether foundation was behind this mechanic, lore wise through genetic engineering to change IVs, instead of some guy in a mall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:55:16 No.30422680 Report

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It makes scamming with shit Dittos more fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:55:32 No.30422684 Report

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I mean I just want the stat change thats all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:55:34 No.30422686 Report

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>>30422505

Fixing legendaries and an alternate way to get hidden power alongside maxed stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:55:47 No.30422690 Report

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>>30422626
I dont think so. Im pretty sure it only works in the game it was trained in

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:55:58 No.30422697 Report

Quoted By: >>30422885

>>30422325
I figure the reason the IVs themselves dont increase is so that you cant use the pokemon you hypertrain as a prized bull to breed perfect IV supermons. I'd assume that the stat changes would carry over if you were to transfer it to the next gen game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:57:58 No.30422745 Report

Quoted By: >>30422794 >>30422874

>>30422561
No fucking clue. It's so stupid. Probably more handholding trash, watch the comp circuit get flooded with children's bottlecap'd mons and ruin it for everyone else too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:58:32 No.30422753 Report

Quoted By: >>30422773 >>30425291 >>30425514 >>30425791

How do I into farming bottle caps?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:59:08 No.30422761 Report

Quoted By: >>30422885

>>30422561
I don't believe they half assed it. I think it's intended so you keep breeding and using the caps instead of just making a perfect ditto and going from then on

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:59:20 No.30422764 Report

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>>30422686
This. Thank you. It's awesome to not soft reset legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:59:32 No.30422771 Report

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>>30422686
True nuff. That's p much the only purpose I see it serving- mons that are unbreedable/annoying to get great IVs on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:59:38 No.30422773 Report

Quoted By: >>30425791

>>30422753
There is no reliable way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 22:59:51 No.30422779 Report

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>>30422325
>Does that mean if I trade them or send them up to the next generation their IVs will be reverted back to their natural state?

No? The data for which stats are Hyper Trained is stored with the Pokémon, not the save file. Trading doesn't reset it and there's no reason to assume transferring will either.

Even if they go full retard and remove the ability to Hyper Train in gen 8, I seriously doubt they'd be dumb enough to remove the existing flags from transferred mons. I mean gen 5 didn't have Contests and they still kept the contest stats on transferred mons back then, I don't see why this would be any different.

>b-but le ebin removing features meme

Yeah, we know, they're retarded. But they're not THAT retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:00:26 No.30422794 Report

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>>30422745
? I.V.'s don't make nearly the difference you seem to think it does. It's not gonna make a no shit player suddenly amazing you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:02:17 No.30422834 Report

Quoted By: >>30422882 >>30422930 >>30423049

>>30422686
I got some shinies during breeding who would be shit because of their IVs. Hyper training is great for this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:03:44 No.30422874 Report

Quoted By: >>30422951

>>30422745
>actually thinking not everyone already hacks for perfect IVs anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:04:13 No.30422882 Report

Quoted By: >>30422941

>>30422834
Building off of this, it's also good for UBs and Legendaries since you aren't forced into soft reset hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:04:16 No.30422885 Report

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>>30422761
>>30422697
True

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:04:17 No.30422886 Report

Quoted By: >>30423025 >>30424301 >>30424522

>>30422660
It's not genetic engineering, that's why is doesn't effect breeding. Anyone who seriously expected TRAINING to affect breeding is a moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:06:08 No.30422930 Report

Quoted By: >>30423986

>>30422834
This is probably the single biggest reason to use bottlecaps at all. A 6 IV Ditto will get you a Pokemon with usable IV's in half an hour. Natures being the only thing part of a Pokemon you have to grind for now is a tremendous improvement over previous generations. And since Synchronize ups the chance of a specific nature for wild Pokemon, and the Everstone lets you pass on the specific nature, unusable shinies are almost a thing of the past.

Yes, it could be better, but as long as Hidden Power is tied to IV's this is a good solution. And it lets ultra minmaxers have max IV's while still getting proper HP values.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:06:45 No.30422941 Report

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>>30422882
Yeah, I soft resetted for Tapu Koko with HP(ice). And Hyper Training allows me to have perfect IVs while having proper HP. It's great honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:07:02 No.30422951 Report

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>>30422874
ngl I plan to get my old 3ds working for pkhex as soon as humanly possible so I could give a fuck less, but I still thought it was stupid at first, until being reminded of fixing legendaries/shinies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:10:31 No.30423020 Report

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Breeding is still faster than farming 30 shards per stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:10:54 No.30423025 Report

Quoted By: >>30424522

>>30422886
But IVs are essentially the Pokemon's individual genetics. How do you train that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:11:33 No.30423049 Report

Quoted By: >>30423383

>>30422834
>hatch shiny Contrary Snivy
>missing about half its IVs in SpAtk but has HP Fire
>bottlecaps raise in-battle stats but keep the Hidden Power
Muy bueno.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:24:50 No.30423383 Report

Quoted By: >>30423835 >>30425443

>>30423049

> Pokemon Sapphire
> Encounter a shiny Swablu
> Modest Nature(Not that I cared at the time)
> Named it Goldy
> Always transfered it over and saved it when I started a new game in Sapphire
> Has been with me trough all events, faced Red at Mt.Silver and the Arceus event etc.
> Used it vs friends in Colosseum
> Used it against people in PBR online
> Has a fuckload of ribbons
> Reset its EVs in X/Y and EV trained it properly
> Recieves a fucking Mega in ORAS
> IVS are horrid

This is going to make me sound like an autistic faggot but I swear I have a bond with this thing. It has always been with me in every Pokemon game since Sapphire. Walking around with it in HG/SS was cool as fuck. And now I can make it a proper battle ready mon. I always back it up to bank if I am not using it in fear of a cart fucking up.

What a long strange trip it has been, Goldy.

Gray (3969-4592-5070)

Gray (3969-4592-5070) Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:25:51 No.30423411 Report

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>>30422325

> Does that mean if I trade them or send them up to the next generation their IVs will be reverted back to their natural state?

no, it just means that you can't pass the IVs down by breeding, and that your hidden power won't change type.

jesus christ you fucking autist, calm your shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:26:42 No.30423430 Report

Quoted By: >>30423473

Trading doesn't remove the flag you fucking retards.

The only thing this does is to make breeding harder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:28:00 No.30423473 Report

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>>30423430
>makes breeding harder

literally how

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Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:28:22 No.30423487 Report

Quoted By: >>30423519 >>30423547 >>30423717 >>30423803 >>30423867 >>30423883 >>30423918 >>30425357 >>30425669

Who /enjoys breeding/ here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:29:39 No.30423519 Report

Quoted By: >>30423867

>>30423487
I would /enjoy breeding/ if Ledbyabot hadn't gone down literally the same day that I found out about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:30:36 No.30423547 Report

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>>30423487
I just started breeding for IVs and stuff, seems pretty cozy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:36:51 No.30423717 Report

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>>30423487
Pretty comfy to me, I was breeding before I even got into IVs and shinies. This is still bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:39:51 No.30423803 Report

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>>30423487
the last time I bred seriously was gen 4. Gen 7 is actually like using cheats in comparison. It's great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:40:58 No.30423835 Report

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>>30423383
I have a trash swellow that i do that with in every game since sapphire as well. What a real nigga

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:42:24 No.30423867 Report

Quoted By: >>30424033

>>30423487
Hell yeah. Breeding is comfy as fuck. At the tail end of Gen 6 I bred a few boxes full of good IV'd mons. All these little hatchlings are waiting for the trip to Alola.

>>30423519
>Ledbyabot

wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:42:47 No.30423883 Report

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>>30423487
I breed teams then never use them to battle

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:44:10 No.30423918 Report

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>>30423487

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:44:12 No.30423919 Report

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>>30422325
it means you can have whatever HP you like and still have the performance od 31IV, also it's easier than breeding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:46:04 No.30423986 Report

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>>30422930
still is a bitch because s.o.s. calls when you want a HA rare mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:47:49 No.30424033 Report

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>>30423867
Someone set up a GTS bot that would trade out 6IV Dittos in exchange for Ledybas. A few days ago it crashed at the owner hasn't reset it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:49:23 No.30424075 Report

Quoted By: >>30424325

>>30422325
I imagine the buff will probably last throughout newer games like PP Up does.

Best part of this is that it doesn't change characteristics though. Now my Pokémon can have a much more diverse pool of traits rather than being limited to just six.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:58:13 No.30424301 Report

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>>30422886
>what is epigenetics

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Dec 2016 23:59:14 No.30424325 Report

Quoted By: >>30424497

>>30424075
anon
you can finally have a lucario that's proud of its power

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:06:04 No.30424497 Report

Quoted By: >>30424688 >>30425842 >>30425850

>>30424325
I don't want that, but I did spend a good 15 or so hours soft resetting in FireRed for a Timid Mewtwo that's often lost in thought.

Pic related, it's when it was in HGSS. It's currently in OR waiting for the Pokébank update so it can go to Alola for hyper training and the champion ribbon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:06:52 No.30424522 Report

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>>30422886
>>30423025
Professor Lamarck when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:09:06 No.30424586 Report

Quoted By: >>30424638

In IV Checker, how do you recognize if something has been hyper trained? Incase you get things like that from trading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:11:18 No.30424638 Report

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>>30424586
It says "Hyper Trained!" instead of Perfect or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:13:12 No.30424688 Report

Quoted By: >>30424834

>>30424497
Why often lost in thought? Genuinely curious why you wanted that characteristic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:19:10 No.30424834 Report

Quoted By: >>30425214 >>30425850

>>30424688
I think Mewtwo is very confused as to why it exists and contemplates its life and purpose a lot. I like the calmer movie Mewtwo more as opposed to the berserk monster in the games and Origins, but both are cool.

If I had gotten "likes to fight" any time during my soft reset spree I would have went with it, but that didn't happen so often lost in thought it is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:30:35 No.30425214 Report

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>>30424834
I had a Feebas wich had "somewhat vain"
Like mate, i'm all for feeling comfortable in your body, but damn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:32:57 No.30425291 Report

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>>30422753
I got some while fishing for Dhelmise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:35:03 No.30425357 Report

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>>30423487
I breed for competitive teams then gawk when I get a 6IV shiny because today I'm lucky I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:36:24 No.30425403 Report

Quoted By: >>30425534

>you need to spent 5+ hours to level up one 100lvl pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:38:00 No.30425443 Report

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>>30423383
>hatch a shiny in gen 6
>exact gender, nature, and ability I needed
>but it was missing a specific IV
>now hyper training makes it so it's no longer a problem

Feels good man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:39:47 No.30425514 Report

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>>30422753

Build a competitive team to sweep the tree. Get a sweep of 30 every day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:40:21 No.30425534 Report

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>>30425403
Spend 5 hours looking for a few rank 5 restaurants and you can do it in an hour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:42:58 No.30425624 Report

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The only thing I care about are the IVs. Whether I get them through bottle caps or breeding doesn't matter to me. As long as the IVs act the same way as if I bred them that's all I care about.

Besides, I can always just inject gold bottle caps anyway so all I have to worry about is the nature and egg moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:44:13 No.30425661 Report

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>>30422325

How is that bullshit? There's nothing wrong with the system. It's a better alternative to breeding that allows you to keep the Hidden Power of your choosing and allowing you to take any Pokemon, shiny or no, with the right nature and make it into a perfect fighter.

Chaining for shinies before usually only meant you could get a trophy mon that isn't passable for competitive. Now you can make it so.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:44:36 No.30425669 Report

Quoted By: >>30425709

>>30423487
>Haven't touched PvP in years and don't intend to.
>Still spend countless hours breeding super pokes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:45:49 No.30425709 Report

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>>30425669

Similar boat here but I enjoy the desperate clawing to beat battle facilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:46:49 No.30425727 Report

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>>30422325
>>30422505
You know this is actually good because of how Hidden Power works?
This means you can literally stop breeding at the first type of HP you want no matter how shitty you go your IVs because you don't have to perfectly breed shit to spreads like 31 30 23 31 31 30 (probably doesn't match any important HP, I just threw numbers here because I'm lazy).

But of course you need to complain about everything.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:48:56 No.30425791 Report

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>>30422753
>>30422773
There is actually, but requires a community and organization /vp/ doesn't have.

Read http://nuggetbridge.com/blogs/entry/2204-bottle-caps-farming-the-plaza-is-now-convenient/

If we had a decent general about this you could easily farm bottle caps fast, as long you have FC (which you can leech off other people playing minigames) anyway.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:51:00 No.30425842 Report

Quoted By: >>30425996

>>30424497
Hi man, long time no see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:51:11 No.30425850 Report

Quoted By: >>30425964

>>30424497
>>30424834
PROUD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:53:38 No.30425923 Report

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Is there anywhere to see what the 3 different shades of each dye shop look like?

Trying to figure out which colors I should be hunting for and if 5 star is even worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:55:13 No.30425964 Report

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>>30425850
OF

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Dec 2016 00:56:30 No.30425996 Report

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>>30425842
Not that guy. I don't like Lucario and I wouldn't use Pokémon without my OT.

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